Jack Poison wrote:I should have been more clear: I didn't think you'd be the one to perpetuate a flame war.. My own observations show it is either an extremist who started the conversation, or a third-party jumping in and escalating it. I sense the latter.. I hope I'm wrong.
OK. Again, I just stated my opinion. Since I don't tote the Liberal or Conservative line, I'm used to getting heat from both sides BUT I notice Liberals tend to be less tolerant of dissent.
Jack Poison wrote:In regards to Bill, he's not my favorite guy. But, lots of people lie about cheating on their spouses, probably under oath as well, given the high frequency of divorces.. I'm not a kind of person who believes, "you lie one time, you can't be trusted at all". Everyone makes mistakes.. Some people might choose not to forgive him. Fine by me, but it takes a bigger person to forgive someone else of something bad. But, to each their own perogative.
I can forgive him somewhat for lying, but for telling such a BAD lie, I can't. He knew that there was no way he was going to be able to keep a lid on this; too many people around it.
And again, he should have fired his lawyer for not jumping out of his seat and telling Bill to NOT ANSWER!
Frankly, the question had nothing to do with the matter at hand, but once he answered it and lied, it was fair game.
Jack Poison wrote:But, it's interesting in regards to Hillary. The only things I hear people, especially those people who claim "Evil", or "I just don't trust her..." only mention intuition (which isn't something I think people should judge people on en masse,
Don't underestimate it though. If something just doesn't seem right, it probably isn't.
Jack Poison wrote:especially when there is a lot of factual information (to be proven or disproven) on her) or her HealthCare proposal. If that, truely, is a bad thing and more accurately, an "unconservative" thing, then more and more conservatives are buying into Universal Healthcare.
Just because they are Conservative (or Liberal for that matter) doesn't make them right. Institutionalized health care is a bad idea. My friend is from Europe, and had it most of her life growing up. She's a HUGE Liberal btw. He feeling is "Yeah, it was free, but the care over here is MUCH better!" I use her as a bit of a "litmus test" on stuff like this given her political view. Basically, if she thinks it's a dodgy idea, they I KNOW it is!
Granted, not very scientific, but it's enough for me.
Jack Poison wrote:Namely because, if created, it makes US businesses much more competitive: more $$$ can go to the bottom line, investments, hiring, etc. The US Automakers (what is left of them) understand this well. So are Air Lines. So, looks like some of our biggest institutions are becoming less and less "conservative" as time goes on.
But, the money has to come from somewhere, and guess where it will come from? Taxes. And don't believe all of this "only the rich will pay more" crap. You'ld be suprised how low the bar to be considered "rich" can be lowered.
And look at it from the other side; less money for doctors and hospitals. This mean fewer doctors (why spend eight years in school, one year (I think) as an intern and three years (I think) as a resident to get what is essentially a government job paying government wages? With malepractice insurance, a lot of doctors can't make ends meet now! Mine just had to give up her practice because she couldn't make money. Not that she didn't have patients, she did, but student loans and insurance made it impossible.
And while I'm talking about insurance, do you think (mostly bogus) malepractice lawsuits will increase or decline? I think increase since they doctors all work the government, and the government had deep pockets. More tax money gone.
So is the solution to outlas malepractice lawsuits? Get ready for the trial lawyers to go nuts! That's where a lot of these scum bags make their money. And what if a doctor really is a quack? You can't sue them?
I just don't think it's a good idea. I believe medical care is like any other service or commodity, and the market should dictate price and distribution. I know it sounds cold, but it's the only way that it's fair to the ones providing the service in the first place. If you alienate them, then NOBODY will be willing to do it.