Oh My! Apple Market Share Declines!

"Apple Computer so far hasn't been a boon to Intel. Apple, ranked fifth in the U.S. but not in the top five worldwide, saw its U.S. market share decline from 3.6 percent to 3.5 percent. Apple's worldwide share is around 2.3 percent."

corona_coder was right! The rise of linux is killing Apple! Wear your penguin suit if you want to survive! [6][6][6]

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:

"Apple Computer so far hasn't been a boon to Intel. Apple, ranked fifth in the U.S. but not in the top five worldwide, saw its U.S. market share decline from 3.6 percent to 3.5 percent. Apple's worldwide share is around 2.3 percent."

corona_coder was right! The rise of linux is killing Apple! Wear your penguin suit if you want to survive!

And watch it rise again when 10.5 is released. Only those thatr really need Mac's will buy now until Leopard is released. All the other hardware makes are living off the release of Vista and the lull in their buying market before it was released when Apple was gaining marketshare. I am more surprised it has not dropped more. Wasn't Vista supposed to crush everything? Lets see how it is going in another 3 months time

Custa1200 wrote:

And watch it rise again when 10.5 is released. Only those thatr really need Mac's will buy now until Leopard is released. All the other hardware makes are living off the release of Vista and the lull in their buying market before it was released when Apple was gaining marketshare. I am more surprised it has not dropped more. Wasn't Vista supposed to crush everything? Lets see how it is going in another 3 months time

Vista is still at 2% of the market so I doubt it could ever crush anything. if Apple has lost market it means that other hardware producers are getting more competitive.

Didnt know they were able to measure that small of a change. Seems like watching paint dry would be more exciting.

I have a copy and have been testing 10.5.  While a nice upgrade, once bugs are fixed, its not as exciting as Windows Vista was.

Custa1200 wrote:



YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:"Apple Computer so far hasn't been a boon to Intel. Apple, ranked fifth in the U.S. but not in the top five worldwide, saw its U.S. market share decline from 3.6 percent to 3.5 percent. Apple's worldwide share is around 2.3 percent." corona_coder was right! The rise of linux is killing Apple! Wear your penguin suit if you want to survive!

And watch it rise again when 10.5 is released. Only those thatr really need Mac's will buy now until Leopard is released. All the other hardware makes are living off the release of Vista and the lull in their buying market before it was released when Apple was gaining marketshare. I am more surprised it has not dropped more. Wasn't Vista supposed to crush everything? Lets see how it is going in another 3 months time

I never read any press article that said Vista will crush everything. Most journalists seem to have been under the bizarre notion that Vista was going to fail, which any moron should have been able to deduce was an impossibility, simply because most of Microsoft's OS sales are preloads.

With the retail version being priced out of everyone's reach, Vista will be a slow burner, but it will eventually overtake everyone else.

Also worth pointing out that market share doesn't really have anything to do with the installed base, which from a developer point of view, is more important. Overall, the Mac market share will continue to decline steadily (as it has done for years) but all that means is that it is selling less in proportion to the overall sales of WinTel PCs; but that does not mean the user base isn't rising; it's just not rising as fast as the WinTel user base.

The MarketLink figures for March seem to indicate that MacOSX doesn't have much to worry about from Linux at the moment.

This page says it all

Yea, those Mac guys are WINNING.  Look at them GO! 

Oh, wait...

It does seem a little petty to be making a big deal of such a small decrease, particularly when that could be explained by a combination of the boost in PC sales created by the release of Vista and the Mac community sitting on their wallet in anticipation for 10.5.

I miss the old days when "PC's" and Macs weren't competing on the same turf. Back when different systems had different target markets. You had Macs for high performance media work such as layout, design, photoshopping and audio work. You had Unixes for multi-user, serving and research. Finally the "rest", being picked up by Windows.

Now everyone is fighting over the same piece of cake and that sort of bothers me. Use what you like and does what you need and be done with it.

rjdohnert wrote:

I have a copy and have been testing 10.5.

Wow, did you shell out the $1500 for a pro ADC membership?

ddewbofh wrote:

I miss the old days when "PC's" and Macs weren't competing on the same turf. Back when different systems had different target markets. You had Macs for high performance media work such as layout, design, photoshopping and audio work. You had Unixes for multi-user, serving and research. Finally the "rest", being picked up by Windows.

Now everyone is fighting over the same piece of cake and that sort of bothers me. Use what you like and does what you need and be done with it.

here here, I second the above.

Out of curiousity, what are the major features of 10.5 over 10.4? I was hoping someone could sum it up, or point me to a non-Apple website (meaning, something that isn't mostly marketing... Apple fan-sites that are factual and non-spin are completely fine).

Jack Poison wrote:

Out of curiousity, what are the major features of 10.5 over 10.4? I was hoping someone could sum it up, or point me to a non-Apple website (meaning, something that isn't mostly marketing... Apple fan-sites that are factual and non-spin are completely fine).

From the top of my head (and the ones I am waiting for):

- Resolution Independence
- Built in desktop manager
- Timemachine
- Core Animation
- A better spotlight (cross machine/server like WDS)
- ObjC 2.0 (Garbage collection, at last)
- A new xcode
- X-Ray (Dtrace on steroids apparently ..)
- OpenGL is now multithreaded for super-dooper perf, at a cost of CPU (offloading CPU sensitive stuff to another core to free up GPU). They're claiming double, but we'll see.
- Support for Python and Ruby for first class Cocoa languages.
-  And judging by past history, a generally faster OS*


* Yes OSX gets faster with each release rather than slower, but it is hard to be slower than 10.1 was ...

It is actually Leopard Server that I think is looking more interesting this time around, although I think Core Animation and the Resolution Independence will make the biggest visual change - obviously, but with Core Animation basically allowing you to animate any NSView (System.Windows.Forms.Control) and composite it with very little effort - *take that* AxHost.

I appreciate it, Ross.

Doesn't really seem like a lot of stuff is "That's kinda cool, but what am I going to use it for? And is it enough to buy a new computer?" I was kinda hoping for something like, "WOW! That's something I've GOT to have!"

Hope it works out for you, though.

Jack Poison wrote:

Doesn't really seem like a lot of stuff is "That's kinda cool, but what am I going to use it for? And is it enough to buy a new computer?"

I don't think any single point release of OSX is enough by itself to warrant going out to buy a new computer, but OSX overall *might*, in some circumstances, and with enough provocation, be enough to say - I might try a new mac mini instead of a new dell for my next machine.  It depends, and I don't think a Mac is a good answer for everyone.

I've convinced a few people to switch, where I thought it would be good for them, and in most cases they were happier with their new Macs than they had been running Windows previously.  All have been Windows devs, so I don't know if being a dev gives you an insight into Windows that most normal users will never see and therefore more susceptible to its flaws - anyway.

You could argue that "That's kinda cool, but what am I going to use it for? And is it enough to buy a new computer?" could apply to Vista just as easily, I don't think either Vista or 10.5 are going to change the world

When will OS 11 be released?

OS X is going on six years now. Its time Apple came up with something new!

Apple's OS is no longer superior as it was in 2001.

Whats funny is if Apple only had 3.5% marketshare, why do all commercials on TV, that show actors using computers, have Mac PCs?

I'm amazed how frequently I see them.

MrJay wrote:

That is called marketing.  It is not something you are used to because Microsoft really stinks at it.  I think MS should fire anybody and everybody involved with marketing and look for some real talent.

hmm, well that is an interesting perspective. Seems to me most people complain that the only thing we are good at is marketing, especially when complaining about our products.

However, since I am a humble man, let's just say that there's always room for improvement