Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:08 GMT Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:08 GMT Rev9 61 -61 -1 Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source wonder what it is and who it is. But all that can be said is

Developers developers developers Cool

http://scobleizer.com/2007/04/25/news-tonight-for-developers/


EDIT
*So this is the big news.  Flex has gone open source. Now microsoft needs to strike back   

http://www.podtech.net/home/scobleshow/2826/breaking-news-adobe-flash-flex-goes-open-sourc

btw what is Flex. Is it apollo that is being talked about or is it something different?. Wonder how this has to do with the big description that scoble gave Expressionless

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/254296#254296 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:31:20 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/254296#254296 anand.t 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/anand.t/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source It's something Big and very cool. Smiley

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/dcac207269314b00bce89dec00753317#dcac207269314b00bce89dec00753317 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:20:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/dcac207269314b00bce89dec00753317#dcac207269314b00bce89dec00753317 Zeo 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Zeo/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Oh!! Will just have to wait for the morning to find out Sad  

What a silly time to do an annoucement 8-)

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/fadad19735e549578b849dec00753340#fadad19735e549578b849dec00753340 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:33:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/fadad19735e549578b849dec00753340#fadad19735e549578b849dec00753340 ben2004uk 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ben2004uk/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
Zeo wrote:
It's something Big and very cool.


Is the sky going to fall?Tongue Out

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/6feb941a80b34e338fd49dec0075336a#6feb941a80b34e338fd49dec0075336a Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:34:33 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/6feb941a80b34e338fd49dec0075336a#6feb941a80b34e338fd49dec0075336a SecretSoftware 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/SecretSoftware/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
Zeo wrote:
It's something Big and very cool.


I've got it:

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/8b7a9659ca9142f9abc59dec00753393#8b7a9659ca9142f9abc59dec00753393 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:15:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/8b7a9659ca9142f9abc59dec00753393#8b7a9659ca9142f9abc59dec00753393 Bas 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Bas/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source All these worlds ...

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/f4f0abd4eda84830b1979dec007533bc#f4f0abd4eda84830b1979dec007533bc Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:51:51 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/f4f0abd4eda84830b1979dec007533bc#f4f0abd4eda84830b1979dec007533bc DCMonkey 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/DCMonkey/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Time of night seems off unless it is related to the announcement.

Microsoft has bought Avid Technologies.

Announce acquisition of a company--think not.

Must be about a product or application developed in a skunkworks.

No idea what it would be.

OK They are going to release Visual Studio 2007 now instead of in January as Visual Studio 2008.  Tongue Out

Developers, developers, developers,--Steve Ballmer moves up and becomes Chairman--Bill Gates retires. Do not think so.

Must be the release of Business Dynamics--is that cool. Never.

Microsoft will be releasing a SDK for both games and robotics using the .NET Framework for free!

Sounds about right, cool and it is about developers--but why 9 tonight.

Wasting cycles.

Cool



]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/eee36467b7e344079bdb9dec007533e8#eee36467b7e344079bdb9dec007533e8 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:45:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/eee36467b7e344079bdb9dec007533e8#eee36467b7e344079bdb9dec007533e8 raymond 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/raymond/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Time of night seems off unless it is related to the announcement.

Microsoft has bought Avid Technologies.

Announce acquisition of a company--think not.

Must be about a product or application developed in a skunkworks.

No idea what it would be.

OK They are going to release Visual Studio 2007 now instead of in January as Visual Studio 2008.  Tongue Out

Developers, developers, developers,--Steve Ballmer moves up and becomes Chairman--Bill Gates retires. Do not think so.

Must be the release of Business Dynamics--is that cool. Never.

Microsoft will be releasing a SDK for both games and robotics using the .NET Framework for free!

Sounds about right, cool and it is about developers--but why 9 tonight.

Wasting cycles.

Cool



]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/f069408f87744f35bd009dec00753413#f069408f87744f35bd009dec00753413 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:48:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/f069408f87744f35bd009dec00753413#f069408f87744f35bd009dec00753413 raymond 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/raymond/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
raymond wrote:

Sounds about right, cool and it is about developers--but why 9 tonight.

Wasting cycles.





Why 9 tonight?  Something for hobbyist developers or students, maybe?  Perhaps Expression Express edition, to get hobbyists on Silverlight and WPF?

</pure speculation>

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/fd3011577cb146d191b79dec00753440#fd3011577cb146d191b79dec00753440 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:28:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/fd3011577cb146d191b79dec00753440#fd3011577cb146d191b79dec00753440 JonathonW 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/CannotResolveSymbol/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
CannotResolveSymbol wrote:

raymond wrote: 
Sounds about right, cool and it is about developers--but why 9 tonight.

Wasting cycles.


Why 9 tonight?  Something for hobbyist developers or students, maybe?  Perhaps Expression Express edition, to get hobbyists on Silverlight and WPF?

</pure speculation>


Good idea!

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/5a5acabe1a67449e850f9dec007534c7#5a5acabe1a67449e850f9dec007534c7 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:34:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/5a5acabe1a67449e850f9dec007534c7#5a5acabe1a67449e850f9dec007534c7 Larsenal 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Larsenal/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source I would hope tonight's announcement is a declaration of the formation of a new type of evangelism/developer group...aka the "Vista Knights". As I have said previously, we must take our enthusiasm to a new level; we must deal with the Crusader Linux zealots who seek to topple our way of life and our ideology by arming ourselves with knowledge, secure software, and stunning tools.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/39ad64de2ed84dbfbb2b9dec007534f1#39ad64de2ed84dbfbb2b9dec007534f1 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:15:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/39ad64de2ed84dbfbb2b9dec007534f1#39ad64de2ed84dbfbb2b9dec007534f1 DarthVista 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/DarthVista/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source I think it might be something to do with some microsoft competitor. Why will microsoft announce something now when MIX is just too close??

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/d81a0b4351c047899d3c9dec0075351a#d81a0b4351c047899d3c9dec0075351a Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:53:02 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/d81a0b4351c047899d3c9dec0075351a#d81a0b4351c047899d3c9dec0075351a anand.t 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/anand.t/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
anand.t wrote:


I think it might be something to do with some microsoft competitor. Why will microsoft announce something now when MIX is just too close??



If it has little or nothing to do with web development?

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/12307cc50cb649d7b9449dec00753545#12307cc50cb649d7b9449dec00753545 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:55:20 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/12307cc50cb649d7b9449dec00753545#12307cc50cb649d7b9449dec00753545 JonathonW 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/CannotResolveSymbol/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source (I promise I only clicked the button once Smiley)

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/3f50fe7319f1469bbe4a9dec0075356f#3f50fe7319f1469bbe4a9dec0075356f Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:55:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/3f50fe7319f1469bbe4a9dec0075356f#3f50fe7319f1469bbe4a9dec0075356f JonathonW 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/CannotResolveSymbol/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source What is it? The suspense is unbearable Wink.

Why not give us some hints?[6]

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/4689eb67a99c45a8b7289dec00753598#4689eb67a99c45a8b7289dec00753598 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:17:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/4689eb67a99c45a8b7289dec00753598#4689eb67a99c45a8b7289dec00753598 SecretSoftware 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/SecretSoftware/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Longhorn Server Beta 3 public download. Get to it! Big Smile

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/a7a2af9c9e3144a88b559dec007535c1#a7a2af9c9e3144a88b559dec007535c1 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:34:45 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/a7a2af9c9e3144a88b559dec007535c1#a7a2af9c9e3144a88b559dec007535c1 Zeo 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Zeo/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
Zeo wrote:
Longhorn Server Beta 3 public download. Get to it!


I don't think that's it...  reread Scoble's post.  He hasn't posted anything else, plus it's not 9pm PDT yet.

Although I was looking forward to Longhorn Server Beta 3.  Typical that it comes out during finals week Smiley

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/4458af491bf947bfb3499dec007535ec#4458af491bf947bfb3499dec007535ec Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:39:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/4458af491bf947bfb3499dec007535ec#4458af491bf947bfb3499dec007535ec JonathonW 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/CannotResolveSymbol/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source wasted time waiting. Now i will go and sleep Cool      

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/1898f83d8dab44d887dc9dec00753614#1898f83d8dab44d887dc9dec00753614 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:19:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/1898f83d8dab44d887dc9dec00753614#1898f83d8dab44d887dc9dec00753614 anand.t 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/anand.t/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Adobe Opensources Flex.

Basically this makes Mix even more interesting to see what Microsoft does in response next week.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/6ec2692a9f264128a65d9dec0075363e#6ec2692a9f264128a65d9dec0075363e Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:45:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/6ec2692a9f264128a65d9dec0075363e#6ec2692a9f264128a65d9dec0075363e RobertScoble 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/RobertScoble/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
RobertScoble wrote:
Adobe Opensources Flex.

Basically this makes Mix even more interesting to see what Microsoft does in response next week.


What difference does it make if Adobe opensources Flex?  It still requires a proprietary, closed-source runtime to run.

Good thing I wasn't staying up for your announcement.  Otherwise, I'd feel like I had wasted my life away for nothing.  No new dev tools, no new runtimes, just...  the source for a UI toolkit on a proprietary platform.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/ec6cd264c57e4e8186b99dec00753669#ec6cd264c57e4e8186b99dec00753669 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:54:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/ec6cd264c57e4e8186b99dec00753669#ec6cd264c57e4e8186b99dec00753669 JonathonW 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/CannotResolveSymbol/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
RobertScoble wrote:
Adobe Opensources Flex.

Basically this makes Mix even more interesting to see what Microsoft does in response next week.


I am looking to know the difference between flex and silverlight. Is not silverlight competing with apollo ??? Actually I am just trying to make sense as to what implications this will have Expressionless

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/f8674c8f4c164e7eb7729dec00753693#f8674c8f4c164e7eb7729dec00753693 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:54:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/f8674c8f4c164e7eb7729dec00753693#f8674c8f4c164e7eb7729dec00753693 anand.t 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/anand.t/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
CannotResolveSymbol wrote:

RobertScoble wrote: Adobe Opensources Flex.

Basically this makes Mix even more interesting to see what Microsoft does in response next week.


What difference does it make if Adobe opensources Flex?  It still requires a proprietary, closed-source runtime to run.

Good thing I wasn't staying up for your announcement.  Otherwise, I'd feel like I had wasted my life away for nothing.  No new dev tools, no new runtimes, just...  the source for a UI toolkit on a proprietary platform.



Adobe is announcing plans to open source Flex under the Mozilla Public License (MPL). This includes not only the source to the ActionScript components from the Flex SDK, which have been available in source code form with the SDK since Flex 2 was released, but also includes the Java source code for the ActionScript and MXML compilers, the ActionScript debugger and the core ActionScript libraries from the SDK. The Flex SDK includes all of the components needed to create Flex applications that run in any browser - on Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux and on now on the desktop using “Apollo”.

Developers can use the Flex SDK to freely develop and deploy Flex applications using either Adobe Flex Builder or an IDE of their choice.


So ineffect apollo != Flex. Flex runs on top of Apollo and probably flash is just a part of everything. Dont we already have some open source flash project?? Adobe lost me somewhere. Probably got to refer wikipedia some time later [6]

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/8e94add743ac4050a5269dec007536c2#8e94add743ac4050a5269dec007536c2 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:59:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/8e94add743ac4050a5269dec007536c2#8e94add743ac4050a5269dec007536c2 anand.t 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/anand.t/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Unless its GPL its not Open Source.  The MPL is incompatiblee with the GPL..  This makes no difference.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/b48a15902a2645a4a85a9dec007536eb#b48a15902a2645a4a85a9dec007536eb Thu, 26 Apr 2007 05:29:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/b48a15902a2645a4a85a9dec007536eb#b48a15902a2645a4a85a9dec007536eb corona_coder 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/corona_coder/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Am I the only one not familiar with Flex ? Much ado about nothing I'd say :O.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/423df794f3f64cd5b38e9dec00753714#423df794f3f64cd5b38e9dec00753714 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:43:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/423df794f3f64cd5b38e9dec00753714#423df794f3f64cd5b38e9dec00753714 ewschone 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ewschone/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source No thunder has been stolen as far as I'm concerned.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/fb7bd9b40ad340eb82699dec0075373d#fb7bd9b40ad340eb82699dec0075373d Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:15:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/fb7bd9b40ad340eb82699dec0075373d#fb7bd9b40ad340eb82699dec0075373d Larsenal 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Larsenal/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Well, that was dissapointing.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/1a623aa57a0443dd806b9dec00753766#1a623aa57a0443dd806b9dec00753766 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:22:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/1a623aa57a0443dd806b9dec00753766#1a623aa57a0443dd806b9dec00753766 Bas 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Bas/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
Bas wrote:
Well, that was dissapointing.


Agreed.

I think that many companies are using the "Open Source" label purely for PR purposes. They often don't really care about community or making better software. They know that the gesture will automatically gain them a great deal of support from the open source zealots.

"If a company accepts the holy Open Source as it's personal lord and savior, and offers it's products upon the alter Freedom, then that one will bask in divine blessing and will have it's sins blotted out and will remain clean to times indefinite. The fame of that company will become known to the ends of the earth and that one will inherit many righteous servants who will obey it's commandments without question." -Stallman 4:25-26

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/e386580b92524f1bb1839dec00753792#e386580b92524f1bb1839dec00753792 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:12:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/e386580b92524f1bb1839dec00753792#e386580b92524f1bb1839dec00753792 kettch 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/kettch/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
raymond wrote:

Microsoft has bought Avid Technologies.

What? Is this for real?

If so, wave goodbye to a fine suite of video editing software, because Microsoft is ultimately going to fsck it up.

Coincidentally, I'm going "Fsck Microsoft!" this weekend and ditch Windows. Figures.

--edit: Note to you Lolnix clowns trying to start a troll from this, hint: It's not Linux.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/a8a1a1dac1234ee7829f9dec007537bc#a8a1a1dac1234ee7829f9dec007537bc Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:58:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/a8a1a1dac1234ee7829f9dec007537bc#a8a1a1dac1234ee7829f9dec007537bc Tom Servo 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Tom Servo/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
Tom Servo wrote:

--edit: Note to you Lolnix clowns trying to start a troll from this, hint: It's not Linux.


You're going over to OS/2?

Seems a bit radical.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/4a8242804f734cb1aa239dec007537e6#4a8242804f734cb1aa239dec007537e6 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:52:42 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/4a8242804f734cb1aa239dec007537e6#4a8242804f734cb1aa239dec007537e6 Massif 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Massif/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source I think he's switching to TOS.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/3be8ad938918426cb1f79dec0075380f#3be8ad938918426cb1f79dec0075380f Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:04:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/3be8ad938918426cb1f79dec0075380f#3be8ad938918426cb1f79dec0075380f Bas 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Bas/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
corona_coder wrote:
Unless its GPL its not Open Source.


Well done; keep spitting out the lies.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/5a8896938367435eba479dec00753839#5a8896938367435eba479dec00753839 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:07:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/5a8896938367435eba479dec00753839#5a8896938367435eba479dec00753839 blowdart 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/blowdart/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source Oohh 150,000 developers not millions. Open Source ... heard of reflector? IDE new and no intellisense arrgg. Something tells me this news could wait say a year when they are actually start to know how to be competive.

Sorry if I am not jumping up and down. Scoble is officially a hack.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/2deb8b636df3481684599dec00753863#2deb8b636df3481684599dec00753863 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:10:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254296-Flex-is-Open-source/2deb8b636df3481684599dec00753863#2deb8b636df3481684599dec00753863 odujosh 61 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/odujosh/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Flex is Open source
ewschone wrote:
Am I the only one not familiar with Flex ? Much ado about nothing I'd say .



No. YOu are never alone [A]

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odujosh wrote:

Sorry if I am not jumping up and down. Scoble is officially a hack.


Lol I cant remember the exact english word to describe him, but he is a person who will just keep talking high about him in every post. From todays comment

Isaac: like I said. I have a front row seat to two multi-billion-dollar companies firing their big guns at each other.

I dont understand what his reply has to do with the original comment by someone called Isaac

It definitely stole the thunder from MIX.
Guess what the hottest topic at MIX?
“Is Microsoft going to open source Silverlight too?”
I guess it doesn’t take an Einstein to answer the question?

I remember once he was whinning against live and yahoo coz a search for "robert" did not retrieve his name (while google did that). And then when someone pointed out that we geeks are just so insignificant in the real world, he started saying that he is significant and is one of the top 100 times people and so on Tongue Out

Now just replying to scobles comment, while he is just in the seat, I am one of the millions of developers who can actually decide which product is gonna be successful. So am I not more significant Cool

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corona_coder wrote:
Unless its GPL its not Open Source.  The MPL is incompatiblee with the GPL..  This makes no difference.


FSF is no authority to declare which license is open source or not.

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anand.t wrote:


It definitely stole the thunder from MIX.
Guess what the hottest topic at MIX?
“Is Microsoft going to open source Silverlight too?”



That's just pathetic. How is that ever going to be the hottest topic at MIX?

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Bas wrote:

anand.t wrote:

It definitely stole the thunder from MIX.
Guess what the hottest topic at MIX?
“Is Microsoft going to open source Silverlight too?”


That's just pathetic. How is that ever going to be the hottest topic at MIX?


Because in Scobles world, multi-billion dollar companies decide what to do in response to competitors overnight, in "internet time".

"My god, Adobe has open sourced Flex. We must do something. We must open source something!"

"How about if we open source the Windows kernel?"

"Great, we'll announce that tomorrow. No, TONIGHT! Someone call Robert Scoble. We need his camera now more than ever!"

Adobe open sourcing some class libraries isn't anything that Microsoft is going to lose sleep over.

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corona_coder wrote:
Unless its GPL its not Open Source.  The MPL is incompatiblee with the GPL..  This makes no difference.


GPL is not Open Source. It's open source with restrictions that fit with FSF's world view. Just like MS SharedSource.

BSD and MIT style licensing is Open Source. Not GPL.

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thumbtacks2 wrote:
Marketing buzzwords aside, what, exactly, is Apollo (or Flex for that matter) supposed to do? And how is it different from anything else that is already out there?


Adobe Marketing wrote:

Adobe® Flex™ 2 software is a rich Internet application framework based on Adobe Flash® that will enable you to productively create beautiful, scalable applications that can reach virtually anyone on any platform. It includes a powerful, Eclipse™ based development tool, an extensive visual component library, and high-performance data services enabling you to meet your applications' most demanding needs.

...
What is Flex?

The Flex application framework consists of MXML, ActionScript 3.0, and the Flex class library. Developers use MXML to declaratively define the application user interface elements and use ActionScript for client logic and procedural control. Developers write MXML and ActionScript source code using the Adobe Flex Builder™ IDE or a standard text editor.




The interon is your friend.

Here's my understanding of it. Feel free to correct me when I'm wrong.

If Flash == the .NET CLR, Flex == some of the namespaces (except for Flex Data services. That == System.Data)

Apollo == WPF/WPF/E errrr Silverlight. It either subsumes Flex or is built on top of it.

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RoyalSchrubber wrote:

corona_coder wrote:Unless its GPL its not Open Source.  The MPL is incompatiblee with the GPL..  This makes no difference.


FSF is no authority to declare which license is open source or not.


The FSF is an authority on what licenses can be used with the GPL and the MPL is not compatible.  Sorry.

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corona_coder wrote:

RoyalSchrubber wrote: 
corona_coder wrote: Unless its GPL its not Open Source.  The MPL is incompatiblee with the GPL..  This makes no difference.


FSF is no authority to declare which license is open source or not.


The FSF is an authority on what licenses can be used with the GPL and the MPL is not compatible.  Sorry.


aww shucks.. sucks to be you now don't it ...[6]


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corona_coder wrote:


The FSF is an authority on what licenses can be used with the GPL and the MPL is not compatible.  Sorry.


Someone, somewhere, actually cares about this. Really they do. Honest.

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Lazycoder2 wrote:



The interon is your friend.

Here's my understanding of it. Feel free to correct me when I'm wrong.

If Flash == the .NET CLR, Flex == some of the namespaces (except for Flex Data services. That == System.Data)

Apollo == WPF/WPF/E errrr Silverlight. It either subsumes Flex or is built on top of it.


I think you got it wrong. From what i understood

FLASH == the final assembly or exe

Flex SDK = CLR

Flex SDK = opensource
CLR = sharedsource

Apollo = Silverlight

I might be wrong as well    

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anand.t wrote:

Lazycoder2 wrote: 


The interon is your friend.

Here's my understanding of it. Feel free to correct me when I'm wrong.

If Flash == the .NET CLR, Flex == some of the namespaces (except for Flex Data services. That == System.Data)

Apollo == WPF/WPF/E errrr Silverlight. It either subsumes Flex or is built on top of it.


I think you got it wrong. From what i understood

FLASH == the final assembly or exe

Flex SDK = CLR

Flex SDK = opensource
CLR = sharedsource

Apollo = Silverlight

I might be wrong as well    
But I don't really see anywhere in the examples online where they use any 3-D functionality. I can see the XML-for-your-interface-design styling, but I thought Silverlight also had the 3-D abilities of WPF (?). Flash Pro 8 doesn't seem to do anything beyond the 2D realm, either.

I still think now is the time for somebody to revive that ol' Blender plug-in project.

Edit: Wait...the wikipedia entry for WPF states this:

Wikipedia wrote:
Microsoft Silverlight is a subset of WPF. During development it was named WPF/E, which stood for "Windows Presentation Foundation Everywhere". Silverlight is a web-based subset of WPF, based on XAML and Javascript. The Silverlight subset enables Flash-like web and mobile applications with the exact same code as Windows .NET applications. 3D features are not included, but XPS, vector-based drawing and hardware acceleration are.
Oh, nevermind...

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anand.t wrote:



I think you got it wrong. From what i understood

FLASH == the final assembly or exe

Flex SDK = CLR

Flex SDK = opensource
CLR = sharedsource

Apollo = Silverlight

I might be wrong as well    


Apollo is a desktop runtime, more similar to WPF than Silverlight (which is a browser plugin).

Sliverlight competes directly with the browser based Flash player.

Flex is an application framework that can target the Flash Player and Apollo.

Ryan Stewart has a good overview here:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/?p=350

I posted some thoughts on Apollo / WPF here:

http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2007/03/18/do-apollo-and-wpf-compete-with-each-other/

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

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ZDNet wrote:
Adobe's Apollo lets you build cross-platform desktop applications using the exact same code base for all of your deployments. It uses a combination of Flash and Ajax so that you can take your web skills and deploy desktop apps. However it doesn't tie as closely to the operating system as other technologies. You can't access devices from Apollo and right now the plan is not to allow execution of native code. Think of Apollo as a way to deploy applications that require a bigger sandbox than the browser (things like file system access and native windowing), but not full operating system features.
By not being able to "access devices" does that mean hard drives/USB drives/floppies/etc.? I'm also assuming it is an interpreted environment...maybe with a JIT-type compiler? How is this different from writing a Java app (which never took off on the desktop, really)...

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mike.chambers wrote:


Apollo is a desktop runtime, more similar to WPF than Silverlight (which is a browser plugin).

Sliverlight competes directly with the browser based Flash player.

Flex is an application framework that can target the Flash Player and Apollo.



But Apollo applications can run in either the browser or the desktop environment correct? Or do you have to write/compile your application to both a Flash version and an Apollo version if you want the user to have the choice of either running it in the browser from a web page or run it directly on the desktop?

edit: According to Ryan Stewarts blog entry, Apollo is desktop only. I may be confusing the Trillian "Astra" version with Apollo.

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corona_coder wrote:
The FSF is an authority on what licenses can be used with the GPL and the MPL is not compatible.  Sorry.


Who cares if they are compatable or not? The GPL isn't everything.

MPL is a fine open source license, as is BSD, MIT, and CDDL.

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Massif wrote:

Tom Servo wrote:
--edit: Note to you Lolnix clowns trying to start a troll from this, hint: It's not Linux.


You're going over to OS/2?

Seems a bit radical.

That was clever.

(Note: Sarcasm.)

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thumbtacks2 wrote:


Thanks for the input, Mike. I looked at the zdnet link (great link, btw) and had a question...
By not being able to "access devices" does that mean hard drives/USB drives/floppies/etc.? I'm also assuming it is an interpreted environment...maybe with a JIT-type compiler? How is this different from writing a Java app (which never took off on the desktop, really)...



Yes, at least Apollo 1.0, you wont be able to access USB, serial etc. Apollo 1.0 is really targetted at bring rich internet application and content from the browser to the desktop.

The core virtual machine is JIT enabled (for Flash based applications). You can also build apollo applications using just HTML / JavaScript and those are interpreted (although they can call into some JITted code.

Well, one of the main differences from something like Java, is that you use higher level languages to build the applications (HTML, JavaScript, Flex, ActionScript), so it is accesible to a wider range of developers. In general, it is also easier to design and stile Apollo applications, than Java, since you use the same tools you can use today to design Flex and HTML content.

Finally, applications will be able to bind to a specific version of the runtime, and Apollo itself will be able to contain the core for multiple versions, so you dont have to work about JVM conflicts, or apps not running because the correct version is not there.

Hope that helps...

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

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Lazycoder2 wrote:





But Apollo applications can run in either the browser or the desktop environment correct? Or do you have to write/compile your application to both a Flash version and an Apollo version if you want the user to have the choice of either running it in the browser from a web page or run it directly on the desktop?

edit: According to Ryan Stewarts blog entry, Apollo is desktop only. I may be confusing the Trillian "Astra" version with Apollo.


Well, Apollo applications are built using web technologies (Flash, HTML, Flex, ActionScript, JavaScript), so you can take web content and run it directly within Apollo.

In most cases though, we expect that developers will create enhanced versions of existing web content, that take advantage of some of the additional functionality and APIs within Apollo.

Hope that helps...

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

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corona_coder wrote:
Unless its GPL its not Open Source.  The MPL is incompatiblee with the GPL..  This makes no difference.

OMG whine whine whine.  Cry more, newb.

Seriously.  Grow up.  GPL isn't everything.  In fact, you know that big room with the blue ceiling and bright sunlamp?  You should spend more time in it.  You know.  Outside.

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I just never understand why it is always such a big deal.

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corona_coder wrote:

RoyalSchrubber wrote:
corona_coder wrote:Unless its GPL its not Open Source.  The MPL is incompatiblee with the GPL..  This makes no difference.


FSF is no authority to declare which license is open source or not.


The FSF is an authority on what licenses can be used with the GPL and the MPL is not compatible.  Sorry.


Which of course avoids the point entirely. Well done. Keep up the lying over what "open source" means.

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Hmm. Silverlight open sourced after all?

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What are the plans for Flash support on Solaris?

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Tom Servo wrote:
Since an Adobe developer is here, derailing this thread...

What are the plans for Flash support on Solaris?


And just how is he derailing this thread, by answering folks questions ? Good grief. Expressionless


EDIT: Solaris

The above what you meant ?

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Tom Servo wrote:
Since an Adobe developer is here, derailing this thread...

What are the plans for Flash support on Solaris?


Sorry. I was just trying to answer some of the questions that were posted here.

You can find more information (as well as download) beta 2 of Flash 9 for Solaris from here:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

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