Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Source control? http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Source control? http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Mon, 20 May 2013 05:21:40 GMT Mon, 20 May 2013 05:21:40 GMT Rev9 21 -21 -1 Coffeehouse - Source control? I just heard the last issue of dotnetrocks, and im interrested in getting that running for my projects.

Do anyone know some good ones? The more opensource and .NET, the better(Opensource is good, but if its written in .NET its even better!)

I have been looking at vault. Its $300, but its supposed to be really good.
Subversion is free and opensource, but written in C++ it seems.

What do you guys think?

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/254791#254791 Thu, 17 May 2007 21:14:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/254791#254791 Chadk 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Chadk/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? Why does it have to be written in .NET ? I understand why you wouldn't want it in something like Java, but C++ should be OK?  I've used TFS, VSS, SVN, and CVS and I like SVN the best (apart from the lack of VS integration but you get used to that).  Heard good things about Vault.

I'm currently debating TFS (Orcas) vs SVN for my project,  I like the fact everything is out the box and integrated of TFS (once its installed) but SVN is lightweight and easy to use...

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/24a9c40106264a40bbbf9dec007b9a54#24a9c40106264a40bbbf9dec007b9a54 Thu, 17 May 2007 21:55:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/24a9c40106264a40bbbf9dec007b9a54#24a9c40106264a40bbbf9dec007b9a54 ben2004uk 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ben2004uk/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? I’m still dreaming of a TFS Express like product for home/enthusiast use one of these years… but if you aren’t to keen on spending any money, something like Subversion or CVS is going to be your best bet.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/ca9e4f43bd4341d0bddf9dec007b9a7e#ca9e4f43bd4341d0bddf9dec007b9a7e Thu, 17 May 2007 22:06:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/ca9e4f43bd4341d0bddf9dec007b9a7e#ca9e4f43bd4341d0bddf9dec007b9a7e dahat 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/dahat/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? Vault is very solid and free for a single developer.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/db39fedb757c4fdcaff09dec007b9aa7#db39fedb757c4fdcaff09dec007b9aa7 Thu, 17 May 2007 22:17:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/db39fedb757c4fdcaff09dec007b9aa7#db39fedb757c4fdcaff09dec007b9aa7 JPeless 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JPeless/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? On a related question, does anyone know if Team Foundation Server includes a source control solution?  I have used VSS in the past and found it to be less than perfect. 


Edit:  Ok, I know it is there...anyone used it?  How good is it?  Any problems?



]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/9e338adf38ad486a84c59dec007b9ad0#9e338adf38ad486a84c59dec007b9ad0 Fri, 18 May 2007 03:11:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/9e338adf38ad486a84c59dec007b9ad0#9e338adf38ad486a84c59dec007b9ad0 sicRrh 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/sicRrh/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control?
sicRrh wrote:
On a related question, does anyone know if Team Foundation Server includes a source control solution?  I have used VSS in the past and found it to be less than perfect. 


Edit:  Ok, I know it is there...anyone used it?  How good is it?  Any problems?


Not a problem with TFS but with the client. It just doesn't like being disconnected. If, for example, you're working on the train, forget adding new files, the TFS client when it can't talk to the server has massive problems doing that, and I've ended up having to copy new files out of the source tree, delete them whilst the client is active and talking to the server, then drag/drop them back in so I could finally add them

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/48c4ba609cee406cb1049dec007b9afd#48c4ba609cee406cb1049dec007b9afd Fri, 18 May 2007 05:55:35 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/48c4ba609cee406cb1049dec007b9afd#48c4ba609cee406cb1049dec007b9afd blowdart 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/blowdart/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? Git - Wikipedia
Bazaar - Wikipedia
SVN - Wikipedia
CVS - Wikipedia

Personally I prefer Git. Git is used project like Linux Kernel and Xorg. SVN is much used on Open Source projects nowadays (KDE, GNOME, etc). Ubuntu uses Bazaar a lot.

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ben2004uk wrote:


Why does it have to be written in .NET ? I understand why you wouldn't want it in something like Java, but C++ should be OK?  I've used TFS, VSS, SVN, and CVS and I like SVN the best (apart from the lack of VS integration but you get used to that).  Heard good things about Vault.

I'm currently debating TFS (Orcas) vs SVN for my project,  I like the fact everything is out the box and integrated of TFS (once its installed) but SVN is lightweight and easy to use...


If it happend to be opensource, it would be really nice if it were written in .NET Smiley C++ would work, but im not any good in C++.

I just tried installing Vault after finding out that its free for a single person. After a few hours of pain trying to install it, it seems to work. I like it.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/4806e7d6a014485586589dec007b9b54#4806e7d6a014485586589dec007b9b54 Fri, 18 May 2007 09:08:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/4806e7d6a014485586589dec007b9b54#4806e7d6a014485586589dec007b9b54 Chadk 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Chadk/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? Tortoise SVN forever!

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/b430d2a562e340dcba479dec007b9b83#b430d2a562e340dcba479dec007b9b83 Fri, 18 May 2007 09:53:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/b430d2a562e340dcba479dec007b9b83#b430d2a562e340dcba479dec007b9b83 Ion Todirel 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Ion Todirel/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control?
Ion Todirel wrote:
Tortoise SVN forever!


Tortise is awful. Aside from it's constant integration with explorer (Oh, look, I can add the recyle bin to source control. WTF?! Just active on that particular directory) just try to create a new file, watch its status change to add, now, before comitting, rename it. Now commit. And watch it eat the repository, so you have to cleanup and manually delete the original filename via the respository browser.

Awful.

I'm sure SVN is a decent server; but I have yet to find a decent PC client.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/a1620c6aff264bf5add99dec007b9bae#a1620c6aff264bf5add99dec007b9bae Fri, 18 May 2007 10:14:33 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/a1620c6aff264bf5add99dec007b9bae#a1620c6aff264bf5add99dec007b9bae blowdart 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/blowdart/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control?
Chadk wrote:

ben2004uk wrote:


Why does it have to be written in .NET ? I understand why you wouldn't want it in something like Java, but C++ should be OK?

If it happend to be opensource, it would be really nice if it were written in .NET C++ would work, but im not any good in C++.


Why does this matter to you at all? It's not like you have to build it yourself or understand the source code in order to use it. And I doubt you would spend time rebuilding and tweaking it just for your project. You don't do that with the compilers you use, do you?

Subversion is quite good, I use it all the time, and the next version will be even better. Perforce is free for 2 developers.

I also like the fact that nobody suggests you to use Visual SourceSafe Smiley

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I believe there was also a visual studio client written for SVN called ahnk or ankh or some such combination of a, n, k, and h.

Seriously, if you don't need the extra features of SVN, and you are on a small team, just use VSS.

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I recommend SourceAnywhere to you. It is SQL-based source control system. SourceAnywhere has both standalone and hosted editions. The home pages are:

http://www.dynamsoft.com/Products/SAWstandalone_Overview.aspx
http://www.dynamsoft.com/Products/SAWhosted_Overview.aspx

You can take a look.

Thanks,

Catherine Sea
www.dynamsoft.com
the leading developer of version control and issue tracking software

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/bc0cd0be4b244fd182f69dec007b9c32#bc0cd0be4b244fd182f69dec007b9c32 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:02:24 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/bc0cd0be4b244fd182f69dec007b9c32#bc0cd0be4b244fd182f69dec007b9c32 catherine sea 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/catherine sea/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control?
Ion Todirel wrote:
Tortoise SVN forever!

Bah, all the cool kids use VisualSVN integrated with VS.Net. Yes it is based on Tortoise .. but I bought a copy a while ago and it hasn't let me down yet.

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Rossj wrote:

Bah, all the cool kids use VisualSVN integrated with VS.Net.

Sorry but cool kids doesn't use SVN at all ... Wink

I'm sure everyone has seen this already but it's pretty interesting and worth to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/86c4579477284893a1f19dec007b9c87#86c4579477284893a1f19dec007b9c87 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:56:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/86c4579477284893a1f19dec007b9c87#86c4579477284893a1f19dec007b9c87 Erisan 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Erisan/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? SVN is pretty good, except at a few edge cases.

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blowdart wrote:

Not a problem with TFS but with the client. It just doesn't like being disconnected. If, for example, you're working on the train, forget adding new files, the TFS client when it can't talk to the server has massive problems doing that, and I've ended up having to copy new files out of the source tree, delete them whilst the client is active and talking to the server, then drag/drop them back in so I could finally add them


Had that issue with the 2005 client but have been using TFC-2008 with TFS2005 and it seems that the only thing it can't do offline now is handle renames.  Adds/Edit/Deletes are fine.




My biggest issue is that if you lose your connection to the TFS server *after* you open the project while conencted things go very wrong!  Used to have this while working on the train, connected to the TFS server over 3g, if you make a change while you have no signal, the change is lost.  These days I always offline the project first (also a pain as there is no 'Take Offline option'), make the changes and then bring it back online when I have a good connection.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/81424d1972cd4c47a0af9dec007b9cde#81424d1972cd4c47a0af9dec007b9cde Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:16:23 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/254791-Source-control/81424d1972cd4c47a0af9dec007b9cde#81424d1972cd4c47a0af9dec007b9cde PerfectPhase 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/PerfectPhase/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Source control? Most of you didn't notice this old post was brought back up by spam.

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Erisan wrote:

Rossj wrote:

Bah, all the cool kids use VisualSVN integrated with VS.Net.

Sorry but cool kids doesn't use SVN at all ...

I'm sure everyone has seen this already but it's pretty interesting and worth to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8


GIT. Next time I need distributed development I'll take a look, but for the common case SVN is more than adequate.

Don't mistake how Linus works with the rest of the world. He is a law until himself Wink

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ScanIAm wrote:


I use VSS and for small projects, I've found it to do everything that is needed. 



You think those endless database corruptions and warning that you need to analyze the database are "needed"?!!! :O

Used SourceSafe at Ford about 8 years ago and it was a nightmare - we lost the database twice and quickly moved to something else. Then 6 months ago I got a contract where they were using SourceSafe 2005. It seemed like every wretched morning you'd get in to find it warning you that the SourceSafe database needed analyzing and fixing.

It's real fun when you rename files!

It is by far the worst source control system out there. Are there any other than SourceSafe that DON'T support continuous integration?

SourceSafe - just say no! 

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