Adobe have just announced
Thermo, which looks like it allows you to take images/wireframes from designers and turn them into working components for use with Flex/AIR.

I guess this would be their equivalent of the Expression workflow - but I think I quite like the idea of not having to get my designs from a specific product ...
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Did you see the video of the keynote demo ?
Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdr3dCmxe4
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9IjZJ0D_bo
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsfOe_MCEbgIn any case Adobe knows designers. Microsoft does not. This is exactly what they want, and completely closes the gap that exists in the Adobe designer to dev workflow around RIA. Of course rendering one of my pet projects useless in a year, but hey that’s how it goes.
Graphics tags etc.. but done visually, complete integration with the entire CS suite, + a whole lot more. Now that Flash 10 will have hardware accelerated 3d, much better text flow and layout, not to mention all the other goodies, I really don’t see Silverlight having any chance at all...Unless they really come out with some wow stuff. I guess the battle just got a whole lot harder for MS.
I have to say when the time came to choose I’m quite glad I chose Flex (at the moment).
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Regardless of who "wins" this, though, it's nice to see some good competition in the market. It's great for the people using these tools, because it means that they (Adobe and Microsoft's suites) actually need to improve with each release in order to compete

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CannotResolveSymbol wrote:Regardless of who "wins" this, though, it's nice to see some good competition in the market. It's great for the people using these tools, because it means that they (Adobe and Microsoft's suites) actually need to improve with each release in order to compete

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CannotResolveSymbol wrote:Regardless of who "wins" this, though, it's nice to see some good competition in the market. It's great for the people using these tools, because it means that they (Adobe and Microsoft's suites) actually need to improve with each release in order to compete

Indeed ...
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Sourcecode wrote:
Oh good heavens. The List (and Design time data) management in parts 2 and 3 is *REALLY* impressive. I like this a lot .. can I have it now please?
I missed any part about where the gfx have to come from, if these really do come from the tools that designers already know how to use (PS etc) then I can see this going down quite well - rather than them having to learn to use yet another new tool.
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Wow. This is looking great! I agree: trial version. When?
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watched video 1...downloading flex....
Looks great -
Sweet!
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You can find more information about Flex at http://flex.org/ There are pages there for connecting to various backends. The page for ASP.NET is at http://flex.org/dotnet/ Mike Mike Potter Adobe Systems Inc.
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mikepotter wrote:You can find more information about Flex at http://flex.org/ There are pages there for connecting to various backends. The page for ASP.NET is at http://flex.org/dotnet/ Mike Mike Potter Adobe Systems Inc.
Heh Mike gets bitten by the Safari bug, C9 doesn't like Safari - or rather the textbox control used doesn't
Linked to from the ASPNet page is WebOrb, which although available for lots of languages, in this case specifically adds support for Flex's fast RPC directly to .Net objects on the server.
Flex is definitely worth a look, it is quickly turning into my front-end tool of choice and it only took me so long because it was really unclear about whether the backend server is required or not (it isn't). Flex 3 is due out in the near-ish future with AIR, and Thermo may well have sealed the deal. In fact, in the next couple of months I'll be risking my house on it (well, Flex *and* my ability to deliver)
Edit: Quick thought, Mike, where is Adobe's C9? I am not implying copying but it already pains me that Apple hate me (as it does all developers who choose to love them) ...
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