Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the foundations for counteracting it.

''I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize,'' Gore said. ''We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity.''

Custa1200 wrote:

Is there a Nobel War Prize for the Guy that "beat" him at the election a few years back?

Bas wrote:



Quick, somebody change Raymond's password before he comes to the Coffeehouse!

DigitalDud wrote:



Great, he won a prize, mission accomplished.  Hopefully that'll shut him up for awhile.

The Nobel Peace Prize 2002

Jimmy Carter
USA
39th President of the United States of America

raymond wrote:



DigitalDud wrote:  Great, he won a prize, mission accomplished.  Hopefully that'll shut him up for awhile.

Amen.

I can only hope and pray.

Unfortunately, I still think he is going to run for President in 2008.

Well, he is no President Roosevelt

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1906/index.html


nor

Albert Schweitzer

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1952/index.html

nor

George C. Marshall

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1953/index.html

nor

Martin Luther King Jr.


http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1964/index.html

nor

Mother Teresa

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1979/index.html

eagle wrote:



The Nobel Peace Prize 2002

"for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development"

Jimmy Carter
USA
39th President of the United States of America

Jimmy Carter's Ignoble "Peace" Prize

by Thomas Sowell  (October 16, 2002)

"...While the Nobel Prize continues to be the most prestigious in the world -- and deservedly so in fields like science and economics -- the Nobel Peace Prize has already been given to a terrorist thug like Yasser Arafat, so perhaps Jimmy Carter is a worthy successor to him, even if he is one of the sorriest presidents and ex-presidents in the history of the United States."

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2011

raymond wrote:

"the Nobel Peace Prize has already been given to a terrorist thug...

raymond wrote:




Remember Iran and why the American people elected President Ronald Reagan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

Raymond wrote:

One of my favorite economists said it best:

Jimmy Carter's Ignoble "Peace" Prize

by Thomas Sowell  (October 16, 2002)

"...While the Nobel Prize continues to be the most prestigious in the world -- and deservedly so in fields like science and economics -- the Nobel Peace Prize has already been given to a terrorist thug like Yasser Arafat, so perhaps Jimmy Carter is a worthy successor to him, even if he is one of the sorriest presidents and ex-presidents in the history of the United States."

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2011

Minh wrote:



raymond wrote: "the Nobel Peace Prize has already been given to a terrorist thug...

But if Rush Limber had won it (snicker), then that's a different story, right ? LOL.

prndll wrote:

This does nothing but tell me that the Nobel prize is worthless.

prndll wrote:

The man won a Nobel prize for making huge amounts of money for lies and misdirecting people. This does nothing but tell me that the Nobel prize is worthless.

ScanIAm wrote:

Luckily, it was left in the hands of people who are more prone to thinking about peace...

prndll wrote:

....the Nobel prize is worthless.

DigitalDud wrote:



This is really lame though.  I mean they turned down a woman who saved 2000 children in the Holocaust for some guy who made a movie about lies.  A British court actually declared official inaccuracies in his film.

Nobel peace prizes are basically worthless now, they even give them to terrorists too.

Gandhi & the Nobel Peace Prize

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Gandhi/GandhiNobel.html

~ Mahatma Gandhi

prndll wrote:

ScanIAM:
If your not carefull, you'll end up being mean spirited. Personally, I would rather think about peace...but that's just not all that realistic when I see so many power hungry ego maniacs in high places operating on insane levels of irrational thinking. Since we can agree that he gets the science wrong and we can agree that he does what he does willingly/knowingly...I call it a lie when he willingly/knowingly spreads things that are not accurate. Accuracy and truth is why I come to places like this. If I'm wrong about something then I will be the first to bow. But the attitude your giving me isn't going to convince me of anything.

Now...on to something a little more interesting....
Didn't the topic get pushed into the public eye long before Gore's movie?

The Global Warming Debate

"...The figure showed the first predictions made with a 3-D climate model and time-dependent climate forcings — it was a figure from a paper that we had published in the Journal of Geophysical Research in 1988 and it had been a principal basis for testimony that I gave to the United States Senate in 1988...."

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/gwdebate/

James E. Hansen talks about the urgency of the climate crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0hHlxaYNb0

James Hansen concerned IPCC ignores danger of ice sheet melt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3oMf_WnaA8&mode=related&search=

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/

Both James E. Hansen and Al Gore remind me of Paul Ehrlich:

"The battle to feed humanity is over.
In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."

~ Paul R.  Ehrlich
The Population Bomb

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich

Ehrlich was on the Johnny Carson several times.  Too bad I cannot find a video on YouTube.

Ehrlich lost the famous Simon-Ehrlich bet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager

This time you going to drown or die of heat stroke.

LOL

eagle wrote:

It was 90 degrease in New York City last week, we know global warming has arrived..

eagle wrote:

Anyone who lives near the ocean has seen the tide rise, we know global warming is here.

j0217995 wrote:

I would ask what does raising the importance of dealing w/ Global Warming have to do with peace? Granted if Rush would have won (no chance in H3ll) he would have done the same amount for peace that Mr. Gore has done. Please list of all the accomplishments that Mr. Gore did to end some form of war, bring about peace and change or anything else that a "Peace Prize" should be given for. I am serious, I don't understand how global wrming has anything to do with peace

j0217995 wrote:

I don't understand how global wrming has anything to do with peace

Custa1200 wrote:



DigitalDud wrote:  This is really lame though.  I mean they turned down a woman who saved 2000 children in the Holocaust for some guy who made a movie about lies.  A British court actually declared official inaccuracies in his film. Nobel peace prizes are basically worthless now, they even give them to terrorists too.

Thats funny, it is like you are saying that British courts get things correct 100% of the time? What a crock of ....

Rossj wrote:



Thing is, they DID get it right, but the media reporting is wrong. The court did not find that there were errors in the documentary, Mr Dimmock lost his case and journalists can't tell the difference between 'errors' and errors.

eagle wrote:



j0217995 wrote: I don't understand how global wrming has anything to do with peace

There is a war being waged by the oil industry and right wing mutant money loving Christians.

 

Just look at the vial hateful comments added to a thread about a Peace Prize.

 

Our planet is a living organism and as we cut down her trees and burn more oil we are affecting our destiny.

eagle wrote:



Why didn't you say that to the global warming deniers?

 

There is no debate, ideology is not science and you are illustrating why Al got the Nobel Prize.

Dharma Punk wrote:



ScanIAm wrote: Luckily, it was left in the hands of people who are more prone to thinking about peace...

Again, I'd like to point out that the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Yasser Arafat.

1994 Nobel Peace Prize winners wrote:

1994

Yasser Arafat (ياسر عرفات) Shimon Peres (שמעון פרס) Yitzhak Rabin (יצחק רבין)

Palestinian Authority  Israel  Israel

"for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East"

raymond wrote:



Therefore nothing can or should be done about.

eagle wrote:



raymond wrote:  Therefore nothing can or should be done about.

Oh, so you're an advocate for nothing...


.....and extremely determined  too. 

• not using aerosol sprays
• not driving petroleum fueled vehicles
• not giving my time or money to Gores' cause
• not using CFC's
• not exhaling carbon dioxide
• not interviening in the natural order of animals killing animals
• not buying the hype that only certain things are biodegradable
• not trying to save the rain forests (as if I ever could)
• not saving the whales
• simply existing

eagle wrote:



Why didn't you say that to the global warming deniers?

 

There is no debate, ideology is not science and you are illustrating why Al got the Nobel Prize.

Some Renowned Meteorology Expert wrote:

ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".

Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth.

...

But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place.

However, he said, that same cycle meant a period of cooling would begin soon and last for several years.

"We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was," Dr Gray said.

"The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures," Dr Gray said.

...

The models can't even predict the weather in two weeks, much less 100 years, he says.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gore-gets-a-cold-shoulder/2007/10/13/1191696238792.html

Our planet is a living organism and as we cut down her trees and burn more oil we are affecting our destiny.

Global warming is already under way. The evidence is vast and the urgency of taking action becomes clearer with every new scientific study. Some of the most obvious signs are visible in the Arctic, where rising temperatures and melting ice are dramatically changing the region’s unique landscapes and wildlife—as well as people’s lives and livelihoods. Across the globe, other early warning signs include melting glaciers, shifting ranges of plants and animals, and the earlier onset of spring.

Global warming is caused by emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases that are emitted primarily by the burning of fossil fuels and the clearing of forests. These gases remain in our atmosphere for decades or even centuries.

The profound impact rising temperatures have had in the Arctic provides a window into a future we may all experience. With continued warming, we can expect more extreme heat and drought, rising sea levels, and higher-intensity tropical storms. At risk are our coastal property and resources, the livability of our cities in summer, and the productivity of our farms, forests, and fisheries.

We can’t avoid all the consequences of global warming, but committing ourselves to action today can help ensure our children and grandchildren inherit a healthy world full of opportunity.

eagle wrote:

We all have access to doppler radar now.

eagle wrote:

We all have access to doppler radar now.

eagle wrote:



Deforestation is clearly visible from space, everyone has access to those photos.

 

I remember getting up to ten snow days a year off from school when I was a kid, today they might get two snow days.

 

I've lived by the Atlantic ocean most of my life and I can see the tide rising higher every year.

ScanIAm wrote:



Dharma Punk wrote:  ScanIAm wrote: Luckily, it was left in the hands of people who are more prone to thinking about peace... Again, I'd like to point out that the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Yasser Arafat.

Just like the current peace prize was not simply given to Al Gore, but instead was given to Al Gore and the IPCC, I give you:

1994 Nobel Peace Prize winners wrote: 1994 Yasser Arafat (ياسر عرفات) Shimon Peres (שמעון פרס) Yitzhak Rabin (יצחק רבין)  Palestinian Authority  Israel  Israel "for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East"

You aren't telling the whole story and you know it.

Dharma Punk wrote:



ScanIAm wrote:  Dharma Punk wrote:  ScanIAm wrote: Luckily, it was left in the hands of people who are more prone to thinking about peace... Again, I'd like to point out that the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Yasser Arafat. Just like the current peace prize was not simply given to Al Gore, but instead was given to Al Gore and the IPCC, I give you: 1994 Nobel Peace Prize winners wrote: 1994 Yasser Arafat (ياسر عرفات) Shimon Peres (שמעון פרס) Yitzhak Rabin (יצחק רבין)  Palestinian Authority  Israel  Israel "for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East" You aren't telling the whole story and you know it.

Actually, I was unaware that Arafat shared the prize in 1994. So accuse me of ignorance if you like. But you don't know me well enough to accuse me of malice. Until you do, keep your trap shut.

DigitalDud wrote:

Great, he won a prize, mission accomplished.  Hopefully that'll shut him up for awhile.

raymond wrote:

It seems that the Red-Green Coalition, also known as the Socialist Coalition, has a slight majority in the Storting, the Norwegian Parliament, that appoints the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.

eagle wrote:

Global warming is here, you can't debate it away.

Red State Update: Al Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jich-0P2XIk

LOL

raymond wrote:



Red State Update: Al Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jich-0P2XIk

LOL

ScanIAm wrote:



Dharma Punk wrote:  ScanIAm wrote:  Dharma Punk wrote:  ScanIAm wrote: Luckily, it was left in the hands of people who are more prone to thinking about peace... Again, I'd like to point out that the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Yasser Arafat. Just like the current peace prize was not simply given to Al Gore, but instead was given to Al Gore and the IPCC, I give you: 1994 Nobel Peace Prize winners wrote: 1994 Yasser Arafat (ياسر عرفات) Shimon Peres (שמעון פרס) Yitzhak Rabin (יצחק רבין)  Palestinian Authority  Israel  Israel "for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East" You aren't telling the whole story and you know it. Actually, I was unaware that Arafat shared the prize in 1994. So accuse me of ignorance if you like. But you don't know me well enough to accuse me of malice. Until you do, keep your trap shut.

I'm sorry if that seemed more aggressive than it needed to.

ScanIAm wrote:

I assumed that since you were able to find an obscure piece of data about who has also received the Nobel prize, you'd have also taken the time to look it up.  Now I know that it's probably just another "Talking Point" flying around teh intarwebs designed to discredit both the Nobel committee and anyone who receives it.

eagle wrote:



No dog is an island....

This is a quotation from John Donne (1572-1631). It appears in Devotions Upon Emergent Occasions, Meditation XVII:

"All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated...As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Dharma Punk wrote:



eagle wrote:  No dog is an island....

Ahem

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Island

eagle wrote:

...No man is an island, entire of itself...

A layer of ice up to two miles thick covers a continent as big as the United States and Mexico combined. Antarctic ice contains 70% of the world's fresh water (90% of the world's ice). If it were divided up, every person on Earth could have a chunk of ice larger than the Great Pyramid. Although 98% of Antarctica is ice, there is land underneath the ice cover, unlike the Arctic where the ice floats on top of the ocean.

The average temperature on the Antarctic continent is -49⁰C. The lowest temperature ever recorded anywhere on Earth was measured here at -128.6⁰F (-89⁰C.). Water temperature averages a comparatively balmy 33^oF. Salt water temperature will drop to about 28⁰F before it freezes.

Because of the frigid air temperatures, rain rarely falls here. It rarely snows either; the South Pole gets less than 6 inches of snow a year!

For six months every year, the sun shines 24 hours a day at the South Pole. But don't expect it to warm you up much. Winds reach up to 200 mph along the coast. During the dark six months of the year, the Antarctic winter (our summer), the South Pole station has a population of 28 people who can't leave. For seven months, from early February until a plane flies in mid-winter with supplies, their only link to the outside world is via the Internet, phone, and radio. ..."

Why won't the floating ice caps melting in the North Pole/Arctic Ocean affect sea level? (Because this floating ice is already displacing its own volume in water.) Only the ice that breaks off or melts from land, i.e. the Greenland ice sheet, Antarctic ice sheet, and mountain glaciers can raise sea level."


http://www.gma.org/surfing/antarctica/antarctica.html

PaoloM wrote:

Are we done with this crap?

raymond wrote:



PaoloM wrote: Are we done with this crap?

The wonders of an open mind.

donttazemebro wrote:

I can't believe Al Gore actually won. There are much more worthy recipients of the peace prize, like Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer.

raymond wrote:



PaoloM wrote: Are we done with this crap?

The wonders of an open mind.

PaoloM wrote:

Are we done with this crap?

donttazemebro wrote:

I can't believe Al Gore actually won. There are much more worthy recipients of the peace prize, like Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer.

raymond wrote:


The late President Ronald Reagan should receive a Nobel Prize for ending the Cold War.