At this point I'm hoping he runs and win the presidency. Just to piss Raymond off.
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prndll wrote:This does nothing but tell me that the Nobel prize is worthless.
It's awesome how you feel so much more qualified in deciding what is worth and what is not than the people whose job is actually to decide exactly that....
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prndll wrote:The man won a Nobel prize for making huge amounts of money for lies and misdirecting people. This does nothing but tell me that the Nobel prize is worthless.
The man shares the Nobel prize with the IPCC for pushing the topic into the public eye and doing so for longer than I suspect you've been alive. I'm still waiting to see where he 'lied'. He's been wrong and to be honest, he gets much of the science wrong, but the point behind his babbling is still valid.
Nobody is going to pay attention to a room full of scientists (sadly) and Gore could have spent the last 8 years wallowing in self pity or shooting spitballs at the current administration. Instead, he went back to doing what he did before he was even vice president and used his clout for something positive.
So, yes, genius, the Nobel prize is worthless.
Luckily, it was left in the hands of people who are more prone to thinking about peace and less prone to being internet jackholes.
Which are you?
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ScanIAm wrote:Luckily, it was left in the hands of people who are more prone to thinking about peace...
Again, I'd like to point out that the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Yasser Arafat.
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This is really lame though. I mean they turned down a woman who saved 2000 children in the Holocaust for some guy who made a movie about lies. A British court actually declared official inaccuracies in his film.
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prndll wrote:....the Nobel prize is worthless.
Nobel prize winners receive a share of the interest from the money left in a bank by Al Nobel the inventor of dynamite.
10 million Swedish kronor = 1.55448 million U.S. dollars
10 million Swedish kronor = 1.09609364 million Euros
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ScanIAM:
If your not carefull, you'll end up being mean spirited. Personally, I would rather think about peace...but that's just not all that realistic when I see so many power hungry ego maniacs in high places operating on insane levels of irrational thinking. Since we can agree that he gets the science wrong and we can agree that he does what he does willingly/knowingly...I call it a lie when he willingly/knowingly spreads things that are not accurate. Accuracy and truth is why I come to places like this. If I'm wrong about something then I will be the first to bow. But the attitude your giving me isn't going to convince me of anything.
Now...on to something a little more interesting....
Didn't the topic get pushed into the public eye long before Gore's movie?
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It was 90 degrease in New York City last week, we know global warming has arrived.
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DigitalDud wrote:
This is really lame though. I mean they turned down a woman who saved 2000 children in the Holocaust for some guy who made a movie about lies. A British court actually declared official inaccuracies in his film.
Nobel peace prizes are basically worthless now, they even give them to terrorists too.
Thats funny, it is like you are saying that British courts get things correct 100% of the time? What a crock of ....
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It is very hot in California last year. But, I don't think anyone need to tell me that cause I already bought AC for that. Besides, global warming has nothing to do with peace and the is old news.
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I would ask what does raising the importance of dealing w/ Global Warming have to do with peace? Granted if Rush would have won (no chance in H3ll) he would have done the same amount for peace that Mr. Gore has done. Please list of all the accomplishments that Mr. Gore did to end some form of war, bring about peace and change or anything else that a "Peace Prize" should be given for. I am serious, I don't understand how global wrming has anything to do with peace
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I was curious about the Nobel Peace Prize Committee and the economy, political situation and political parties in Norway.
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/committee/index.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/no.html
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3421.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Norway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Norway
It seems that the Red-Green Coalition, also known as the Socialist Coalition, has a slight majority in the Storting, the Norwegian Parliament, that appoints the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-Green_Coalition_%28Norway%29
The current members of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee and their party affiliation:
2006-2008 Mjøs, Ole Danbolt (Chairman) b. 1939 Christian People's Party Furre, Berger Ragnar (Dep. Chairman) b. 1937 Socialist Left Party Five, Kaci Kullman b. 1951 Conservative Rønbeck, Sissel b. 1950 Labour Ytterhorn, Inger-Marie b. 1941 Progress Party
The Norwegian Nobel Committee Since 1901
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/committee/nnclist/index.html
No wonder Al Gore won-- the "watermellons" had a lock and a former Conservative Minister actually nominated Al Gore for the Nobel Peace Prize.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-socialism
The one person I believe should have received the Nobel Peace Prize and never did was Mohandas Gandhi.
He was nominated five times.
Mahatma Gandhi, the Missing Laureate
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/gandhi/index.html
Gandhi & the Nobel Peace Prize
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Gandhi/GandhiNobel.html
- "It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom.
It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." - "It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom.
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prndll wrote:ScanIAM:
If your not carefull, you'll end up being mean spirited. Personally, I would rather think about peace...but that's just not all that realistic when I see so many power hungry ego maniacs in high places operating on insane levels of irrational thinking. Since we can agree that he gets the science wrong and we can agree that he does what he does willingly/knowingly...I call it a lie when he willingly/knowingly spreads things that are not accurate. Accuracy and truth is why I come to places like this. If I'm wrong about something then I will be the first to bow. But the attitude your giving me isn't going to convince me of anything.
Now...on to something a little more interesting....
Didn't the topic get pushed into the public eye long before Gore's movie?
Yes, in 1988 by James E. Hansen, the father of global warming alarmism.
The Global Warming Debate
"...The figure showed the first predictions made with a 3-D climate model and time-dependent climate forcings — it was a figure from a paper that we had published in the Journal of Geophysical Research in 1988 and it had been a principal basis for testimony that I gave to the United States Senate in 1988...."
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/gwdebate/
James E. Hansen talks about the urgency of the climate crisis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0hHlxaYNb0James Hansen concerned IPCC ignores danger of ice sheet melt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3oMf_WnaA8&mode=related&search=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/
Both James E. Hansen and Al Gore remind me of Paul Ehrlich:
"The battle to feed humanity is over.
In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."
~ Paul R. Ehrlich
The Population Bomb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich
Ehrlich was on the Johnny Carson several times. Too bad I cannot find a video on YouTube.
Ehrlich lost the famous Simon-Ehrlich bet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager
This time you going to drown or die of heat stroke.
LOL

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eagle wrote:It was 90 degrease in New York City last week, we know global warming has arrived..
It's only going to be in the mid-80s tomorrow in Dallas. I don't think that warming is quite global yet.
eagle wrote:Anyone who lives near the ocean has seen the tide rise, we know global warming is here.
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j0217995 wrote:I would ask what does raising the importance of dealing w/ Global Warming have to do with peace? Granted if Rush would have won (no chance in H3ll) he would have done the same amount for peace that Mr. Gore has done. Please list of all the accomplishments that Mr. Gore did to end some form of war, bring about peace and change or anything else that a "Peace Prize" should be given for. I am serious, I don't understand how global wrming has anything to do with peace
You know what? This is the first serious argument against Gore being involved with the Nobel prize. I'm not sure why he deserves it either, and your points are well taken. He didn't end a war. He didn't even spend time negotiating the end of a war. He certainly didn't forward the idea of peace as an alternative to wasting energy.
This is the kind of questioning that makes me believe that we're not just a bunch of retarded monkeys
I just wish that the rest of us could look past the "ZOMFG I HATE GORE SO MUCH MY EYES ARE BLEEDING" and question the logic.
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j0217995 wrote:I don't understand how global wrming has anything to do with peace
There is a war being waged by the oil industry and right wing mutant money loving Christians.Just look at the vial hateful comments added to a thread about a Peace Prize.Our planet is a living organism and as we cut down her trees and burn more oil we are affecting our destiny.
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Custa1200 wrote:

DigitalDud wrote:
This is really lame though. I mean they turned down a woman who saved 2000 children in the Holocaust for some guy who made a movie about lies. A British court actually declared official inaccuracies in his film.
Nobel peace prizes are basically worthless now, they even give them to terrorists too.
Thats funny, it is like you are saying that British courts get things correct 100% of the time? What a crock of ....
Thing is, they DID get it right, but the media reporting is wrong. The court did not find that there were errors in the documentary, Mr Dimmock lost his case and journalists can't tell the difference between 'errors' and errors.

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