it looks like FF3 can detect and use the OneCare Safety Scanner, the free manual AV used by MSN Messenger, on each file downloaded.
I didn't even know of this feature until it started scanning the files on its own
wish IE7 did the same thing ![]()
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cornelius wrote:at least IE doesnt
leak(i mean has "memory management features") memory like a sive
one of the main features of Firefox 3 is lower RAM usage and with adblock you can also save the ram/CPU used by all the annoying flash ads. I currently have 2 windows with about 15 tabs open and it's using only 125mb of ram.
I usually had to shutdown firefox after 1-2 days because of extremely high ram usage but with the new beta version the problem seems to have ceased.
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that like that, what would be cool is a real download manager with ability to resume downloads, search feature is also cool, but it is the wrong place, should be on top
when Firefox 3 will be released? can wait
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When I am running 4 windows of IE7, each having about 12 open tabs, it uses 78MB of ram even with the flash crap...YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:
cornelius wrote:
at least IE doesntleak(i mean has "memory management features") memory like a sive
....I currently have 2 windows with about 15 tabs open and it's using only 125mb of ram.
I usually had to shutdown firefox after 1-2 days because of extremely high ram usage but with the new beta version the problem seems to have ceased.
I need to open Firefox without any toolbars or plugins, load a page with plain HTML and wait for just 3 days leaving the window open until I reach around 1GB usage... what's it doing? -
According to some 'ting I read on the web the other day, firefox suffers memory fragmentation problems when it tries to allocate huge contiguous blocks of memory.
Why it's allocating huge contiguous blocks of memory though is anyone's guess.
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I think one of the main features in Firefox 3 is fixes to hundreds of memory leaks. With those there probably are still hundreds of leaks but hundreds less.
I guess the developers didnt keep good track of were they allocated memory in their code and forgot to add enough "free" statements.
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wth.. ff3 still using its same old lame download manager.. and now with extra virus scanning bloat attached
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Ion Todirel wrote:that like that, what would be cool is a real download manager with ability to resume downloads, search feature is also cool, but it is the wrong place, should be on top
Resumably downloads are a voodoo.
In Firefox, they're not implemented correctly since I can never get them to work. But don't forget there's a load of webservers out there which don't support resumable HTTP transfers, it also doesn't work for dynamically served content either.
So take note: developers using ASP.NET to send large binaries.
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YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:it looks like FF3 can detect and use the OneCare Safety Scanner, the free manual AV used by MSN Messenger, on each file downloaded.
I didn't even know of this feature until it started scanning the files on its own
wish IE7 did the same thing
Why would we need that? I mean as soon as the file is created the file system watcher of your AV detects that and checks it... That happens even if the file has been modified. I don't know what an extra check should bring. -
littleguru wrote:Why would we need that? I mean as soon as the file is created the file system watcher of your AV detects that and checks it... That happens even if the file has been modified. I don't know what an extra check should bring.
Not every AV software hooks on to every created file. That would be a massive performance bottleneck.
Word also calls a viruscan on opened documents btw.
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shooby wrote:

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:
it looks like FF3 can detect and use the OneCare Safety Scanner, the free manual AV used by MSN Messenger, on each file downloaded.
I didn't even know of this feature until it started scanning the files on its own
wish IE7 did the same thing
Dear 'tard,
If your chosen program loader ( Windows is not really an OS) wasnt a POS you would'nt need this.
Ok, go ahead and argue that if you used a real OS that you'd put people working at AV vendors out of work.
You got me there.
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shooby
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YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:a key code hacker? which one? the printer driver, the OCR trial or the silverlight installer? if you guess right you win 10 troll points
The Windows Live installer. Windows Live Messenger is a well know hacking tool.
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++ thats what i was thinking too, and modern AV software works pretty fast alsolittleguru wrote:Why would we need that? I mean as soon as the file is created the file system watcher of your AV detects that and checks it...
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Ion Todirel wrote:
++ thats what i was thinking too, and modern AV software works pretty fast also
littleguru wrote:
Why would we need that? I mean as soon as the file is created the file system watcher of your AV detects that and checks it...
Only if the scanner is currently enabled, running in the background, monitoring file system change notifications for that folder, etc.
For an installer feature (like IE's ActiveX code download) then it's too late. The installer needs to scan the file before trusting the contents or calling any code in it.
See the Antivirus APIs for more info. I presume that's what FF is using.
Also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914922 and IAttachmentExecute.
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shooby wrote:
Dear 'tard,
dear decerebrated kid,shooby wrote:
If your chosen program loader ( Windows is not really an OS) wasnt a POS you would'nt need this.
Ok, go ahead and argue that if you used a real OS that you'd put people working at AV vendors out of work.
You got me there.
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shooby
tell that to the admins of the hundred of thousands rootkit-ed un*x servers out of thereshooby wrote:And by the way, why are you DL'ing a key code hacker?
In addition to being stupid, your also a felon I guess.
a key code hacker? which one? the printer driver, the OCR trial or the silverlight installer? if you guess right you win 10 troll points
by the way, were you just guessing from the colored icons? yes, you know, the ones that you can't see on the monochrome text-only dumb terminals you use to log-on on your cool un*x machine?shooby wrote:
/shrugs
Typical moral-less Microsoft coppertop.
xx00
shooby
typical comment of lame people who put their nick signature at the end of their own posts.
please, stop humiliating yourself further than this... your trolling kung-fu was already sucking enough.
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looks cool, nice info, thanksBruceMorgan wrote:
Ion Todirel wrote:
++ thats what i was thinking too, and modern AV software works pretty fast also
littleguru wrote:
Why would we need that? I mean as soon as the file is created the file system watcher of your AV detects that and checks it...
Only if the scanner is currently enabled, running in the background, monitoring file system change notifications for that folder, etc.
For an installer feature (like IE's ActiveX code download) then it's too late. The installer needs to scan the file before trusting the contents or calling any code in it.
See the Antivirus APIs for more info. I presume that's what FF is using.
Also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914922 and IAttachmentExecute.
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