http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/ Awesome read.
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Chadk wrote:http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/ Awesome read.
Amusing, but they lose points on accuracy.
Steven Hawking, Albert Einstein, and Ghandi weren't atheists. -
The problem with us atheists is that we always sound so smug.
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Probably the best one on the page was "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Allegedly by Ghandi.
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W3bbo wrote:

Chadk wrote:
http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/ Awesome read.
Amusing, but they lose points on accuracy.
Steven Hawking, Albert Einstein, and Ghandi weren't atheists.
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W3bbo wrote:

Chadk wrote:
http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/ Awesome read.
Amusing, but they lose points on accuracy.
Steven Hawking, Albert Einstein, and Ghandi weren't atheists.
Yes, actually a lot of people quoted there aren't atheists.
And actually if you take this quote from Einstein
'If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.'
You would realize that is what the whole debate in the 16th century was about between Catholics and Protestants.
If people who spent hours compiling quotes on atheism understood things a little better they would realize that religious people understand the same issues that atheists do, and would stop talking down to them.
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brian.shapiro wrote:
If people who spent hours compiling quotes on atheism understood things a little better they would realize that religious people understand the same issues that atheists do, and would stop talking down to them.
But if we didn't have smugness, we'd have nothing.
Herbie
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brian.shapiro wrote:

W3bbo wrote:

Chadk wrote:
http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/ Awesome read.
Amusing, but they lose points on accuracy.
Steven Hawking, Albert Einstein, and Ghandi weren't atheists.
Yes, actually a lot of people quoted there aren't atheists.
And actually if you take this quote from Einstein
'If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.'
You would realize that is what the whole debate in the 16th century was about between Catholics and Protestants.
If people who spent hours compiling quotes on atheism understood things a little better they would realize that religious people understand the same issues that atheists do, and would stop talking down to them.
Fine, then I expect that when you meet someone who tells you about ghosts, bigfoot, nessie, alien anal-probing, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster (all hail his noodly appendages), you'll offer the same courtesy.
Me, I just can't do it.
I see no difference between the belief in a 'higher power' and the belief in santa claus. -
What do atheists believe in? I don't get it.
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ManipUni wrote:I believe this thread will end the entire Religion Vs. Non-Religion debate for good.
It's more likely than ending this trolling. -
DigitalDud wrote:What do atheists believe in? I don't get it.
Aetheism is the lack of belief.
Nhilism is the active belief there is nothing.
Agnostics are sitting on the fence.
Theists have active belief.Bas wrote:
W3bbo wrote:

Chadk wrote:
http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/ Awesome read.
Amusing, but they lose points on accuracy.
Steven Hawking, Albert Einstein, and Ghandi weren't atheists.
Really? What are Stephen Hawking's beliefs?
Apparently he's a deist of some sort.
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ScanIAm wrote:
Fine, then I expect that when you meet someone who tells you about ghosts, bigfoot, nessie, alien anal-probing, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster (all hail his noodly appendages), you'll offer the same courtesy.
Me, I just can't do it.
I see no difference between the belief in a 'higher power' and the belief in santa claus.
I'm not a religious person ScanIam, and I don't have a definite view on God... but I end up defending people who do more often than not, because the belief in God is not the same thing as belief in a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Most usually, its a very abstract belief, not a belief in a bearded man on a cloud, but a disbelief in the idea that the world could have come from nothing and a faith that its meaningful to live your life one way over another. God refers to a' first cause' in philosophical terms that cant be replaced by any specific material or physical cause (because material things are finite and part of cause and effect). Hawking prefers that we talk about physics, but over the centuries, philosophers and scientists, very intelligent ones, have defended the idea of God. Theologically, major religions like Christianity are also very different from believing in a flying spaghetti monster, because they have more historical and allegorical meaning to people than noodly appendages.
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brian.shapiro wrote:Theologically, major religions like Christianity are also very different from believing in a flying spaghetti monster, because they have more historical and allegorical meaning to people than noodly appendages.
So if the FSM exists for another few years and I write a book of his adventures you'll take him as seriously as Christianity? Good to know.
edit: Wait, FSM already has a book of stories, you can even buy it on amazon! http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180375352&sr=8-1 -
brian.shapiro wrote:

ScanIAm wrote:
Fine, then I expect that when you meet someone who tells you about ghosts, bigfoot, nessie, alien anal-probing, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster (all hail his noodly appendages), you'll offer the same courtesy.
Me, I just can't do it.
I see no difference between the belief in a 'higher power' and the belief in santa claus.
I'm not a religious person ScanIam, and I don't have a definite view on God... but I end up defending people who do more often than not, because the belief in God is not the same thing as belief in a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Most usually, its a very abstract belief, not a belief in a bearded man on a cloud, but a disbelief in the idea that the world could have come from nothing and a faith that its meaningful to live your life one way over another. God refers to a' first cause' in philosophical terms that cant be replaced by any specific material or physical cause (because material things are finite and part of cause and effect). Hawking prefers that we talk about physics, but over the centuries, philosophers and scientists, very intelligent ones, have defended the idea of God. Theologically, major religions like Christianity are also very different from believing in a flying spaghetti monster, because they have more historical and allegorical meaning to people than noodly appendages.
Say what you will, but the only difference between Christianity and the FSM is about 2 millenium years of generational brainwashing. -
W3bbo wrote:Amusing, but they lose points on accuracy.
Steven Hawking, Albert Einstein, and Ghandi weren't atheists.
Hey, they're "Atheism quotes", not "Atheist quotes". Quotes related to atheism, not necessarily BY atheists. -
Well, ScanIAm
originally some people had to decide to become christians, and later decide to continue the religion because they found it meaningful.
in any rate, as a religion expands over history the more abstract the understanding of the religion will be, moving from cult worship to something more about principle. like using the mythology as an allegorical tool to open dialogue on morality, or moving from literal statements to theological statements.
say what you will, but the flying spaghetti monster isn't capable of being meaningful to enough people to last over centuries, inspire people, or open a moral dialogue
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