Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Instructions... http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Instructions... http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Wed, 22 May 2013 06:13:34 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 06:13:34 GMT Rev9 14 -14 -1 Coffeehouse - Instructions... I got a sandwich maker (croque monsiour) for Christmas, and I'm trying to use it for the first time. The enclosed manual really is a brilliant example of why manual's typically are useless:

Dutch side:
"Steek de stekker in het stopcontact : het rode controlelampje gaat branden. Wacht tot het groene controle lampje uitgaat (ca. 4-5 minuten) : het apparaat heeft dan de juiste baktemperatuur bereikt."
In English: Plug the sandwich maker in : the red light comes on. Wait until the green light turns off (approx. 4-5 minutes). The machine has now reached the correct temperature.

French side:
"Brancher le cordon de l'appareil sur le secreut : le voyant rouge s'allume. Dès que le voyant vert s'allume, le temps de préchauffage est terminé (environ 5 à 6 minutes)"
In English: Plug the sandwich maker in : the red light comes on. When the green light turns on, the preheating time has ended (approx. 5-6 minutes).

So, I leave as a riddle for the reader: just how long am I supposed to wait for the green light to do what?

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/33301#33301 Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:48:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/33301#33301 Sven Groot 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sven Groot/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... see i'd probably go with the french side myself.  are there any other languages you could check to see if they go with what you currently have or offer alternative ideas. 

trial and error, trial and error

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/23d9505978094bf1aa6b9dea013a7e78#23d9505978094bf1aa6b9dea013a7e78 Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:51:08 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/23d9505978094bf1aa6b9dea013a7e78#23d9505978094bf1aa6b9dea013a7e78 Jaz 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Jaz/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... I'm guessing the French side is correct also (since the green light isn't on initially). Nope, there aren't any other languages.

Of course, there's very little you can actually do wrong making toast. It's just a humorous example of how much people that write manuals seem to smoke sometimes. Wink

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/8bb82de496ef4c5983069dea013a7ea1#8bb82de496ef4c5983069dea013a7ea1 Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:54:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/8bb82de496ef4c5983069dea013a7ea1#8bb82de496ef4c5983069dea013a7ea1 Sven Groot 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sven Groot/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... I suppose it depends on whether you read all the instructions first... or whether you read an instruction, follow it, and then read the next instruction.

"Plug it in"
OK... hmm... find an open socket... and... ah!  Great.

"Wait 4-5 minutes"
OK... find a clock... it's 8:56... so... around 9:00 or 9:01...

Presumably the interval elapsed between plugging it in and the correct temperature being reached is slightly over five minutes.  But if the user is treating the instructions as a scripted language to be interpreted at runtime, the additional read-next-step-find-a-clock etc. means they only have to wait for slightly under five minutes.

As to what the lights actually do, beats me. Smiley

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/9dc10519740b4058bffa9dea013a7ecb#9dc10519740b4058bffa9dea013a7ecb Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:59:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/9dc10519740b4058bffa9dea013a7ecb#9dc10519740b4058bffa9dea013a7ecb Maurits 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Maurits/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... Depends on the type of bread:

French, Belgian, Canadian bread = wait for green light to turn on.

Dutch, German, English, Nordic bread = wait for green light to turn off

Other bread = do not create a croque monsiour, it is just rude.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/187fe04dfcfd4ceb8c529dea013a7f0c#187fe04dfcfd4ceb8c529dea013a7f0c Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:31:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/187fe04dfcfd4ceb8c529dea013a7f0c#187fe04dfcfd4ceb8c529dea013a7f0c alexbarn 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/alexbarn/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... Beer28 m8, just a quick question if I may?

Does your toaster run Linux too?

Wink

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/b54056c23d104cab9a019dea013a7f34#b54056c23d104cab9a019dea013a7f34 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:31:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/b54056c23d104cab9a019dea013a7f34#b54056c23d104cab9a019dea013a7f34 David Oliver 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sabot/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions...
Sabot wrote:
Beer28 m8, just a quick question if I may?

Does your toaster run Linux too?

Wink


Toaster? That started out on the Amiga didnt it Wink

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/f54f48e614c946068d809dea013a7f5c#f54f48e614c946068d809dea013a7f5c Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:22:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/f54f48e614c946068d809dea013a7f5c#f54f48e614c946068d809dea013a7f5c Tensor 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Tensor/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... Dunno, my Guru's Meditating !

Wink

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/c3c6ad497dba452896899dea013a7f85#c3c6ad497dba452896899dea013a7f85 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:55:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/c3c6ad497dba452896899dea013a7f85#c3c6ad497dba452896899dea013a7f85 David Oliver 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sabot/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... I have the “First Toaster with a Brain”, and have had it for years! I kept the box and filled it with stuff just to marvel at the Brain claim.

 

Sven, do you understand the concept of “pre-heating”? The manufacture of this “Sandwich maker” (sounds like all you have to do is pour the ingredients in and out will pop a sandwich) just wants to make sure that after YOU make the sandwich and place in the heater it is not burned. Maybe computers should have two lights, one to show that power is ON another to show that the OS is loaded correctly and ready to go.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/00c709f448c64c6bb6e69dea013a7fb0#00c709f448c64c6bb6e69dea013a7fb0 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:24:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/00c709f448c64c6bb6e69dea013a7fb0#00c709f448c64c6bb6e69dea013a7fb0 eagle 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/eagle/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... Of course I understand the concept of pre-heating. Considering it takes around five minutes before the green light turns on it's also not too hard to figure out what exactly you are supposed to do. I'm not the kind of person that's totally dependant on a manual for making a sandwich, you know! Wink

It's just funny that the French and Dutch instructions can't seem to agree, that's all.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/b7fca597da3749bc94569dea013a7fd8#b7fca597da3749bc94569dea013a7fd8 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:53:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/b7fca597da3749bc94569dea013a7fd8#b7fca597da3749bc94569dea013a7fd8 Sven Groot 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sven Groot/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... As for the time it takes to heat up that depends on many factors, but mostly the temperature of the room where the Sandwich maker is stored and used. Maybe the Dutch have warmer homes.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/71fc5ba4ea50431f97dc9dea013a8002#71fc5ba4ea50431f97dc9dea013a8002 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:12:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/71fc5ba4ea50431f97dc9dea013a8002#71fc5ba4ea50431f97dc9dea013a8002 eagle 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/eagle/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions... Plug in the sandwich maker and observe the green light once it has reached a steady-state. Wait until the state of the green light changes (approx. 4-5 minutes). The machine has now reached the correct temperature.

Here:

sandwichMaker.plugIn(ringMains.getNearestFreeSocket(sandwichMaker.location));
assert(sandwichMaker.redLight.state == true);
bool greenLightState = sandwichMaker.greenLight.state;
while (sandwichMaker.greenLight.state == greenLightState) {};

// the machine has now reached the correct temperature.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/5f6f61edba08438db3bd9dea013a8050#5f6f61edba08438db3bd9dea013a8050 Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:14:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/5f6f61edba08438db3bd9dea013a8050#5f6f61edba08438db3bd9dea013a8050 asqui 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/asqui/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions...
asqui wrote:

Plug in the sandwich maker and observe the green light once it has reached a steady-state. Wait until the state of the green light changes (approx. 4-5 minutes). The machine has now reached the correct temperature.

Here:

sandwichMaker.plugIn(ringMains.getNearestFreeSocket(sandwichMaker.location));
assert(sandwichMaker.redLight.state == true);
bool greenLightState = sandwichMaker.greenLight.state;
while (sandwichMaker.greenLight.state == greenLightState) {};

// the machine has now reached the correct temperature.



Reminds me of the joke :  How do you keep a programmer busy in the bath? Give him some shampoo - lather, rinse, repeat.  At least I thought it was funny.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/7009f07a6898489ab70f9dea013a807a#7009f07a6898489ab70f9dea013a807a Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:08:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/33301-Instructions/7009f07a6898489ab70f9dea013a807a#7009f07a6898489ab70f9dea013a807a Rossj 14 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Rossj/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Instructions...
Rossj wrote:
asqui wrote:

Plug in the sandwich maker and observe the green light once it has reached a steady-state. Wait until the state of the green light changes (approx. 4-5 minutes). The machine has now reached the correct temperature.

Here:

sandwichMaker.plugIn(ringMains.getNearestFreeSocket(sandwichMaker.location));
assert(sandwichMaker.redLight.state == true);
bool greenLightState = sandwichMaker.greenLight.state;
while (sandwichMaker.greenLight.state == greenLightState) {};

// the machine has now reached the correct temperature.


Reminds me of the joke :  How do you keep a programmer busy in the bath? Give him some shampoo - lather, rinse, repeat.  At least I thought it was funny.


I tried to put some sort of timeout around the while loop but I couldn't work out how to do it -- I'm not very proficient with C# and the .NET Framework.

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