A programmer doesn't need a MCAD or MCSD degree to show others how good he or she really is. It's all in the way you work.

1.) Be trustworthy
2.) Be ambitious
3.) Though programming is complicated now, always throw a little humour around with you and the client.
4.) Always suggest new ideas to make the application better. (Applies to 5).
5.) Be innovative

Do the above and to me you've already got and MCAD certification.Smiley
Steve.