Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Sun, 19 May 2013 12:27:02 GMT Sun, 19 May 2013 12:27:02 GMT Rev9 9 -9 -1 Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET First off let me say, I really like VS.NET and C#. I am getting 'real' work done with .NET and my team and I are happy on many levels.

But we are frequently frustrated with the integration of VSS. For example, try creating a class library in one project, and a web app in another project, and get them working in a solution and getting it all checked into source safe (without it creating .root and _1 named VSS projects which you don't want or need) and then adding a new developer to your team.

Or try renaming a project in VSS and checking it back in (and spending hours trying to figure out the crypting binding error messages and warnings)

Or try connecting to work thru VPN and suffering the slowness of VSS over the net.

Am I making my point? If not, email me offline and I'll give you more examples...

Will we ever see version control technology from MS that's based on a 'real' server and with real-world distributed teams? Or is it sort of a second-class citizen there in Redmond and we need to keep looking at things like SourceOffsite, or entirely different products, or should we just be content with VSS and suffer the sometimes frustrating integration with the dev tools we use.

What do Microsoft developers use day-to-day for version control? What do they use if the work from home?

-Bruce Shankle


]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/405#405 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:50:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/405#405 bshankle 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/bshankle/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET Hello, I guess VSS is fun to use if you develop on your own or a very small team, for bigger developments have a look at: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/rational/offerings/scm.html 
(Rational Clear Case)

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/a28ee73232644e2780909dea01102ae1#a28ee73232644e2780909dea01102ae1 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 06:18:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/a28ee73232644e2780909dea01102ae1#a28ee73232644e2780909dea01102ae1 JerryP 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JerryP/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET Well, there's one very interesting source control provider I found (SourceGear Vault) that provides at least a FREE one-user license!   It is built entirely with .NET, and is backed by a SQL Server or MSDE database.

I use it at home, as I do not want to pay oodles of cash for these things.

Check it out.  www.sourcegear.com

It implements EVERYTHING that VSS does, minus the ability to check in/out files in the visual merge.

However, one thing that REALLY needs to be done with SCP integration, is supporting renaming of files/projects..  It really sucks when I want to move files to a different directory/sub-folder.. I do it locally, then must open VSS directly and move them as well.

Ahwell.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/b5f5675eb7324ea8af069dea01102b10#b5f5675eb7324ea8af069dea01102b10 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 18:08:27 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/b5f5675eb7324ea8af069dea01102b10#b5f5675eb7324ea8af069dea01102b10 eto 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/eto/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET Hi,

a "new" SourceSafe would be really great!

-> Very slow at fetching projecthistory
-> Databasehandling isn't very good: maximum size (3-5GB), always check for enough free diskspace, need to be analyzed very often (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvss/html/vssbest.asp)
-> Switching between online/offline is very slow (VS.Net)
-> VSS over VPN is very slow Sad
-> no Webclient
-> Not fully integrated into VS.Net (renaming files..)

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/b3a0fa6faf5a45398a099dea01102b3e#b3a0fa6faf5a45398a099dea01102b3e Wed, 07 Apr 2004 18:50:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/b3a0fa6faf5a45398a099dea01102b3e#b3a0fa6faf5a45398a099dea01102b3e Jtb 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Jtb/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET Or may be you can look at this freeware tool: http://subversion.tigris.org/

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/dd1ceb7e17544996b5cb9dea01102b6b#dd1ceb7e17544996b5cb9dea01102b6b Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:37:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/dd1ceb7e17544996b5cb9dea01102b6b#dd1ceb7e17544996b5cb9dea01102b6b manuj 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/manuj/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET Regarding the renaming issues (VS.Net --> VSS), I use an VS.Net addin (SyncVSS), which handles all that for me.  Works like a charm.

http://www.thecreeksidegroup.com

John Barone

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/fd62caceb13049c490329dea01102bbd#fd62caceb13049c490329dea01102bbd Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:44:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/fd62caceb13049c490329dea01102bbd#fd62caceb13049c490329dea01102bbd SloopJohnB 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/SloopJohnB/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET Oh well if we're name-dropping SCM systems:

http://www.perforce.com

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/056c143f9ec44ca184f49dea01102bea#056c143f9ec44ca184f49dea01102bea Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:22:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/056c143f9ec44ca184f49dea01102bea#056c143f9ec44ca184f49dea01102bea Aardvark 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Aardvark/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET bshankle, I've started up a ProductFeedback wiki page just for Visual Studio, and populated it with some of your comments - please expand on them (or delete them, if you don't want them preserved for posterity and/or our devs!) as you see fit.  Read more about it here.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/56237224d0364aa09cea9dea01102c17#56237224d0364aa09cea9dea01102c17 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 23:37:16 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/56237224d0364aa09cea9dea01102c17#56237224d0364aa09cea9dea01102c17 jonathanh 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/jonathanh/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Integration of VSS with VS.NET will do!

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/1357761775494d7d97079dea01102c45#1357761775494d7d97079dea01102c45 Fri, 09 Apr 2004 04:24:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/405-Integration-of-VSS-with-VSNET/1357761775494d7d97079dea01102c45#1357761775494d7d97079dea01102c45 bshankle 9 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/bshankle/Discussions/RSS