Obama gets gutted, McCain closer to white house

littleguru said:

Guys... everything is fine. He's only following the COW (Channel 9 Opposite Week) that Jamie started.

http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/400653-OpenSource--No-Business-Plan--LA--Failz/

Then he can answer the failboat thread we started on him a while back

Because answering things when he gets called out, would be the oppposite.

phreaks said:

Bas said:

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Where do you think their tax cuts come from.

Umm and the 38% of Americans that DON'T pay taxes get a check, where does that money come from?
He is redistributing the wealth.

Where do you think their tax cuts come from.

Tax cuts are not equal to receiving money.

Bas said:

phreaks said:

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Tax cuts are not equal to receiving money.

30+% of the population doesn't pay taxes, in those cases Obama has clearly stated, "They will receive checks."

phreaks said:

Bas said:

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30+% of the population doesn't pay taxes, in those cases Obama has clearly stated, "They will receive checks."

If you listened to what Obama was saying you would of heard him say he would not raise taxes for anyone making less than 250k with his tax restructuring. Which I would imagine would include you:)

In my opinion people who make 250k have a lot less to worry about financially than those of us making sub 100k. Its not socialism it restructuring the tax code. As taxes has zero to do with socialism. Now buying up morgages is socialism since you now effectively have a lien on private property. But then again republicans are for socialism since the republican white house was the party who forced the 700 billion dollar bail out. One less reason to vote republican in my estimation. But of course you conviently ignoring that fact.

phreaks said:

Bas said:

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30+% of the population doesn't pay taxes, in those cases Obama has clearly stated, "They will receive checks."

Then why didn't you say that right away instead of going on about tax cuts?

Here's why: you're oversimplifying and misrepresenting the problem and the proposed solution, either because you don't know the details or because you want to win an argument at any means.

foreachdev said:

phreaks said:

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If you listened to what Obama was saying you would of heard him say he would not raise taxes for anyone making less than 250k with his tax restructuring. Which I would imagine would include you:)

In my opinion people who make 250k have a lot less to worry about financially than those of us making sub 100k. Its not socialism it restructuring the tax code. As taxes has zero to do with socialism. Now buying up morgages is socialism since you now effectively have a lien on private property. But then again republicans are for socialism since the republican white house was the party who forced the 700 billion dollar bail out. One less reason to vote republican in my estimation. But of course you conviently ignoring that fact.

Who cares if it doesn't "adversely effect" me personally?

foreachdev said:

If you listened to what Obama was saying you would of heard him say he would not raise taxes for anyone making less than 250k with his tax restructuring. Which I would imagine would include you:)

That doesn't make it fair or any less socialistic.

foreachdev said:

In my opinion people who make 250k have a lot less to worry about financially than those of us making sub 100k. Its not socialism it restructuring the tax code. As taxes has zero to do with socialism.

What do you know about people making 250k? Why do you get to be judge and arbitrator of people's HARD earned cash?

Taxes have nothing to do with socialism? WTF?
Taking someone else's money and giving it to others is socialism. It doesn't matter if it's given as a 'tax rebate check' (to someone that doesn't pay taxes to begin with, how is that a rebate?), or distributed via welfare or given back to others as a tax break.

The fact is that my money is being allocated to others in various ways.


Republican's are for socialism?  Forced the bailout? You simply have no grasp of how the government works, do you?

It's sad we always turn to debating the Tax cuts.

Don't you get it? Simply a way to hit the hearts of the striving to survive class.
The Rich can hardly care less.

Bas said:

phreaks said:

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Then why didn't you say that right away instead of going on about tax cuts?

Here's why: you're oversimplifying and misrepresenting the problem and the proposed solution, either because you don't know the details or because you want to win an argument at any means.

No, you're the one that isn't understanding, and I am not over-simplifying anything.

I don't have the time nor inclination to explain rudimentary economics over the internet.

RoyalSchrubber said:

This picture makes more sense than you.

When you get your MBA and CFA and achieve 10 years experience working in financials, then you can start trolling me on any financial or economic topic you like.

Until then STFU because clearly not many people here have even a basic understanding of the fundamental principles of finance. 

phreaks said:

RoyalSchrubber said:

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When you get your MBA and CFA and achieve 10 years experience working in financials, then you can start trolling me on any financial or economic topic you like.

Until then STFU because clearly not many people here have even a basic understanding of the fundamental principles of finance. 

Now now guys. A progressive tax system isn't communism.

I love it when in a political thread, I'm the calm one.

Minh said:

phreaks said:

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Now now guys. A progressive tax system isn't communism.

I love it when in a political thread, I'm the calm one.

I didn't say it was communism, I said it was socialism.

Nothing like free hand-outs to inspire people to work harder and achieve on their own merit, aye.

//what was racist about carona's first post? It may have been idiotic, but I didn't notice anything racist about it???

phreaks said:

Minh said:

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I didn't say it was communism, I said it was socialism.

Nothing like free hand-outs to inspire people to work harder and achieve on their own merit, aye.

//what was racist about carona's first post? It may have been idiotic, but I didn't notice anything racist about it???

phreaks wrote:
Nothing like free hand-outs to inspire people to work harder and achieve on their own merit, aye.

By definition, there are just more people w/ less money than more. The bell curve, right?

And in a one-person-one-vote system, combined w/ human self-interest, it's easy (and seemingly fair) to ask the guys w/ more $$$ to do more.

You can even think that a progressive tax system is an inevitable attribute of a democracy.

phreaks said:

Minh said:

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I didn't say it was communism, I said it was socialism.

Nothing like free hand-outs to inspire people to work harder and achieve on their own merit, aye.

//what was racist about carona's first post? It may have been idiotic, but I didn't notice anything racist about it???

phreaks wrote:
what was racist about carona's first post?

Toupac in the whitehouse?

blowdart said:

phreaks said:

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Hold on, what? Taxes aren't socialism; nor are they capitalism. They're fund raising, nothing more. It's how the funds get distributed that indicates the political creed.

Yes, that was my sentiment.

Apologies if I was unclear, multitasking....

phreaks said:

RoyalSchrubber said:

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When you get your MBA and CFA and achieve 10 years experience working in financials, then you can start trolling me on any financial or economic topic you like.

Until then STFU because clearly not many people here have even a basic understanding of the fundamental principles of finance. 

Eh, I'm sorry if you felt offended, I didn't make things clear - fries are for corona nut - I replied to root.