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Skriker V1.0
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What’s wrong with Vista, IMHO it’s the best MS OS in years; just don’t install it on 5 year old hardware!
As for Apple, market share up, yeah but how many of those machines are running Vista?
Is there really a difference between Mac hardware and PC hardware, are we not really just arguing about the OS?
“I’m a heterogeneous PC”
The only thing wrong with it is that problems weren't addressed early on and Microsoft didn't respond to Apple's ads soon enough. There is a large public opinion that Vista is buggy and slow, which is simply not true, even on five year-old hardware.
ZippyV
Fired Up
Why do you think something is wrong with Vista?
Skriker V1.0
Need more money...
Just seems that everywhere I go, here, other forums work and home (Family) Vista had negative reviews, and most are from people who have not even used it.ZippyV said:Why do you think something is wrong with Vista?
BlackTiger
If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.
Just bad horoscope... Improper software in improper time...
Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!
Marketing Marketing and Marketing ,
RoyalSchrubber
One. How many time travellers does it take to change a lightbulb?
Why do you think there isn't anything wrong with vista? I use it just because it's OS that sucks the least in areas I care, but otherwise Vista is far from dream OS imo.ZippyV said:Why do you think something is wrong with Vista?
turrican
Nothing is forever. - Art Bell
Everything is wrong with Vista. Actually, according to some very good "open sources ", it is due to Vista that we don't have world peace yet!
Just kidding, Vista is great. XP was great. It's just history repeating. People bitched about XP, now they * about Vista... and lately, many of the Vista haters I know have starting using Vista and guess what?... They are starting to * about how Windows7
will suck.
Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!
With WIndows 7 certainly not wait for SP1 , works well from day oneturrican said:Everything is wrong with Vista. Actually, according to some very good "open sources ", it is due to Vista that we don't have world peace yet!
Just kidding, Vista is great. XP was great. It's just history repeating. People bitched about XP, now they * about Vista... and lately, many of the Vista haters I know have starting using Vista and guess what?... They are starting to * about how Windows7 will suck.
Perception is what is wrong, and a few bugs. When a major feature like instant search doesn't work as expected or advertised, something is wrong.
There's nothing 'wrong' with Vista as a modern OS. However it is far far removed from the the vision its designers and developers intended, and what they showed at PDC 03. This happened due to a variety of reasons - the Reset, decisions to abandon huge features
like WinFS, not using managed code (perf problems too) etc.
But reasons don't matter. The end result is an OS which is merely good, not excellent, not stellar. And those are things we should expect from a company with as much talent and resources as Microsoft. And so should they.
InkMaster
Extraordionaire
Wow, I still remember PDC 03 - I was 14 at the time and I can't even express how excited I was watching all those demos and listening to all those promises. And you gotta admit, at the time, what they were showing off was truly revolutionary. So I'd have to agree with you, there really nothing is wrong with Vista and to the general public its a great OS, but to us, who are interested in technology and who were following the development process of it for years and years, I think its us that are disappointed the most not even because of what it is, but what it could've been.Defcon said:There's nothing 'wrong' with Vista as a modern OS. However it is far far removed from the the vision its designers and developers intended, and what they showed at PDC 03. This happened due to a variety of reasons - the Reset, decisions to abandon huge features like WinFS, not using managed code (perf problems too) etc.
But reasons don't matter. The end result is an OS which is merely good, not excellent, not stellar. And those are things we should expect from a company with as much talent and resources as Microsoft. And so should they.
Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!
Now we are going to write a new page in the web, and is called Windows 7.InkMaster said:Wow, I still remember PDC 03 - I was 14 at the time and I can't even express how excited I was watching all those demos and listening to all those promises. And you gotta admit, at the time, what they were showing off was truly revolutionary. So I'd have to agree with you, there really nothing is wrong with Vista and to the general public its a great OS, but to us, who are interested in technology and who were following the development process of it for years and years, I think its us that are disappointed the most not even because of what it is, but what it could've been.Defcon said:*snip*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf29haATORQ - Who still remembers that video? Exciting times those were
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q7xZ2ACyg0 - This was byfar my favorite clip though
BlackTiger
If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.
Some personal thoughts about Vista's failure/"failure"...
It reminds me one "theory". And that theory is "Microsoft is created by developers and exists because of developers".
Not because of customers or consumers aka 'end-users'. End users, actually absolutely don't care. Not because of 'shareholders'.
Yes, it sounds like "Microsoft was 'created' by software pirates". But...
Look what MS did - they promised a lot of cool stuff. 'Cool' only for developers, actually, because other 'consumers' don't care. And?... And nothing in result. Broken promises... 'Broken' for developers, because 'end-users' again don't care. So, 'failure'
is developer's revenge and reminder for MS. - "Don't care about customers, even about 'corp.'es. Don't care about marketing. We are, developers, your 'marketing'. We, developers, can break any customer's 'opinion' and turn it into any direction." Not true?
What about 'servers' success?
PaoloM
Hypermediocrity
BlackTiger said:Some personal thoughts about Vista's failure/"failure"...
It reminds me one "theory". And that theory is "Microsoft is created by developers and exists because of developers".
Not because of customers or consumers aka 'end-users'. End users, actually absolutely don't care. Not because of 'shareholders'.
Yes, it sounds like "Microsoft was 'created' by software pirates". But...
Look what MS did - they promised a lot of cool stuff. 'Cool' only for developers, actually, because other 'consumers' don't care. And?... And nothing in result. Broken promises... 'Broken' for developers, because 'end-users' again don't care. So, 'failure' is developer's revenge and reminder for MS. - "Don't care about customers, even about 'corp.'es. Don't care about marketing. We are, developers, your 'marketing'. We, developers, can break any customer's 'opinion' and turn it into any direction." Not true? What about 'servers' success?
What?
littleguru
<3 Seattle
I'm also having a hard time to understand what he actually meant with the post...PaoloM said:BlackTiger said:*snip*What?
Having just started a pilot roll-out of Vista, I'm more and more impressed every day. It's not just the big things, but the little nuances here and there which really help make life more productive. I can't stand using the XP/2003 version of ADUC any more
having discovered the many subtle tweaks in the new version.
Is it perfect? No, but then neither is XP. Still looking forward to more improvements with Windows 7!
BlackTiger
If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.
What "What?"?PaoloM said:BlackTiger said:*snip*What?
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