Is Windows 7 notepad going to support unix/mac style line endings?

Is Windows 7 notepad going to support unix/mac style line endings?

Just incase it has been forgotten time to bring this up again.

And is it double buffered to get rid of the irritating flicker?

evildictaitor said:

And is it double buffered to get rid of the irritating flicker?

Also, does Ctrl+Backspace and Ctrl+Delete delete single words now?

Bas said:

evildictaitor said:

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Also, does Ctrl+Backspace and Ctrl+Delete delete single words now?

They changed that so it puts in pretty little square characteres now instead, yay!

Matthew van Eerde said:

> Is Windows 7 notepad going to support unix/mac style line endings?

I hope not.  Note that even Mac doesn't support mac style line endings anymore... they've shifted over to UNIX-style line endings.

Wordpad supports UNIX-style line endings, FWIW.

Yes, but .txt files are associated with Notepad, and it's frustrating to open a text file in Notepad to discover that it has the wrong line endings and you have to close Notepad and reopen Wordpad.

Mac line endings aren't that big of a deal (no one uses them anymore), but Unix line ending support would be helpful.

littleguru said:

Doesn't seem that notepad got any love in 7.

Haven't they already identified (when they talked about vista) that people want a lightweight unaltered experience with notepad? if they changed it you'd get a ton of other people saying "it worked fine, why change it!".

stevo_ said:

littleguru said:

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Haven't they already identified (when they talked about vista) that people want a lightweight unaltered experience with notepad? if they changed it you'd get a ton of other people saying "it worked fine, why change it!".

To some extent this is valid.  New features like syntax highlighting would probably irritate at least some users.  However, handling Unix line endings, handling larger files, and improving the interface are all things that could (and should) be done and would annoy no one.

stevo_ said:

littleguru said:

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Haven't they already identified (when they talked about vista) that people want a lightweight unaltered experience with notepad? if they changed it you'd get a ton of other people saying "it worked fine, why change it!".

I don't think anybody is relying on the functionality of Ctrl+Backspace doing nothing.

wkempf said:

stevo_ said:

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To some extent this is valid.  New features like syntax highlighting would probably irritate at least some users.  However, handling Unix line endings, handling larger files, and improving the interface are all things that could (and should) be done and would annoy no one.

The thing is, if you are in a position where you need those features, you probably also know where to find alternative text editors that provide them to you.

Notepad is simple, fast and that's why it's still immensely popular

PaoloM said:

wkempf said:

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The thing is, if you are in a position where you need those features, you probably also know where to find alternative text editors that provide them to you.

Notepad is simple, fast and that's why it's still immensely popular

Ahem.

Name one person not in need of large file support?  In todays networked environment, the majority of users are also in need of better line ending support.  Improvements to the UI are something not needed, and you could do without that bit, but I'm not talking about a radical new WPF UI, just simply better key bindings, menu layout and other such things.  None of that is going to jeapordize the "simple and fast" aspects of notepad.  That bit of FUD holds no weight.  As for knowing where to get a better editor... of course EVERYONE knows.  It's a PITA though to have to install something that should exist on the system to begin with, so that argument holds no weight either.

PaoloM said:

wkempf said:

*snip*

The thing is, if you are in a position where you need those features, you probably also know where to find alternative text editors that provide them to you.

Notepad is simple, fast and that's why it's still immensely popular

And I'd love it even more if I could just delete single words with common keystrokes.

PaoloM said:

wkempf said:

*snip*

The thing is, if you are in a position where you need those features, you probably also know where to find alternative text editors that provide them to you.

Notepad is simple, fast and that's why it's still immensely popular

Notepad2 is fast, simple, and supports pretty much every feature I want in a simple text editor (including Regex find/replace!).

I happen to think the built-in Notepad should resemble it far more.

Michael Griffiths said:

PaoloM said:

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Notepad2 is fast, simple, and supports pretty much every feature I want in a simple text editor (including Regex find/replace!).

I happen to think the built-in Notepad should resemble it far more.

I replace Notepad with Notepad2 on all of my systems as well.  However, I do NOT think Notepad should be advanced to that stage.  That does start to get into the area where Paolo is concerned.  Notepad2 is fast, yes, but it's not Notepad fast.  The extra features also mean a more complex UI.  There's many users who would rail against Microsoft for going in that direction.

We don't need a radical new Notepad.  We just need the things that are basically "bugs" to be corrected.  Large file support is mandatory.  Unix line ending support basically is as well.  The UI can use some polish.  I'm not even adverse to Bas's request, though such support should be added at the edit box level, not just at the Notepad level, if you're going to do it.

NO, DON'T TOUCH MY NOTEPAD!