Hackers Needed

Police set to step up hacking of home PCs 

THE Home Office has quietly adopted a new plan to allow police across Britain routinely to hack into people’s personal computers without a warrant.

It doesn't say if it's been enacted yet, but hey.... yet another reason to leave the country.

W3bbo said:

It doesn't say if it's been enacted yet, but hey.... yet another reason to leave the country.

I thought this would be a great job opportunity for you....no need to rush off to van demons land.

W3bbo said:

It doesn't say if it's been enacted yet, but hey.... yet another reason to leave the country.

Meh. This isn't new, they've been able to do pretty much whatever they want when it comes to "tackling organised and serious crime" for a while now. All this new act will do is allow other EU countries to do the same thing on UK citizens without a warrant.

The whole Damian Green remark is frankly moronic. The warrant-less search of his offices was perfectly legal because the owner of his offices gave permission to the police to do so as is our structure of law.

If they want to change the law so MPs are immune from police probes then go right ahead.

W3bbo said:

It doesn't say if it's been enacted yet, but hey.... yet another reason to leave the country.

It's the same way in my friggin country, and they wonder about all the smart people wandering off, what a pathetic world...

Are they seeking to reassure me when they tell me it's regulated by RIPA?

Because I don't think that's quite going to work:

http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?go=toolbar&uri=%2F1%2Fhi%2Fengland%2Fdorset%2F7398820.stm&q=RIPA&tab=ns&scope=all
http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?tab=ns&q=Regulation+of+Investigatory+Powers

Dodo said:

W3bbo said:

*snip*

It's the same way in my friggin country, and they wonder about all the smart people wandering off, what a pathetic world...

Well at least in Germany the Cult of Scientology is illegal. Over here the City of London Police are in bed with them.

This is crazy...

If they can plant the trojans / backboors on people's PCs, this pretty much ensures the bad guys can easily get a copy of it, reverse engineer it, then create their own version of "control program" to break into other's PCs...

The  action can create more benefit than inconvienence for the criminals...

Btw, I think the non-Europian antivirus companies (or even Microsoft's MS Defender) will remove them once samples are submitted... as such program qualifies as backdoor/trojan.

cheong said:

This is crazy...

If they can plant the trojans / backboors on people's PCs, this pretty much ensures the bad guys can easily get a copy of it, reverse engineer it, then create their own version of "control program" to break into other's PCs...

The  action can create more benefit than inconvienence for the criminals...

Btw, I think the non-Europian antivirus companies (or even Microsoft's MS Defender) will remove them once samples are submitted... as such program qualifies as backdoor/trojan.

Yeah, I'd like to see how that pans out.

cheong said:

This is crazy...

If they can plant the trojans / backboors on people's PCs, this pretty much ensures the bad guys can easily get a copy of it, reverse engineer it, then create their own version of "control program" to break into other's PCs...

The  action can create more benefit than inconvienence for the criminals...

Btw, I think the non-Europian antivirus companies (or even Microsoft's MS Defender) will remove them once samples are submitted... as such program qualifies as backdoor/trojan.

Why not the European ones?

Bad software is bad software. Full stop. Regardless as to whether or nor your government makes it.

WTF. Why do people sit by and let their governments piss all over freedom and privacy? It's astounding how apathetic and stupid people really are.

jonathansampson said:

WTF. Why do people sit by and let their governments piss all over freedom and privacy? It's astounding how apathetic and stupid people really are.

What do you suggest we do?

• Write to your MP?
  • I already do that and get fobbed off with excuses or a fake air of concern
• Government petition?
  • Hard to find 1000 people to care enough or can comprehend the implications. Most people just espouse whatever their blacktop tabloids tell them to think
• Demonstrations
  • Almost always get ignored. See the protests against the Iraq war for example
    
• Exercise my right to bear arms? (assuming we had that right)
  
  • How will shooting anyone help my movement?
    

blowdart said:

jonathansampson said:

*snip*

It's a shame all we have are representative democracies where realistically a government has pretty much free reign for the 4-5 years it's in office.

Aside from protest there's not a lot you can do.

I have a fiendish plan to scare the current Home Office and raise a ruckus in the knee-jerk tabloids, and yet it doesn't involve breaking any laws (technically) and I reckon parts might only cost up to a £1000 or so.

Interested?

W3bbo said:

blowdart said:

*snip*

I have a fiendish plan to scare the current Home Office and raise a ruckus in the knee-jerk tabloids, and yet it doesn't involve breaking any laws (technically) and I reckon parts might only cost up to a £1000 or so.

Interested?

oh dear, not planning to buy the "build your own H-bomb kit" are we?

W3bbo said:

blowdart said:

*snip*

I have a fiendish plan to scare the current Home Office and raise a ruckus in the knee-jerk tabloids, and yet it doesn't involve breaking any laws (technically) and I reckon parts might only cost up to a £1000 or so.

Interested?

?

W3bbo said:

jonathansampson said:

*snip*

What do you suggest we do?

• Write to your MP?
  • I already do that and get fobbed off with excuses or a fake air of concern
• Government petition?
  • Hard to find 1000 people to care enough or can comprehend the implications. Most people just espouse whatever their blacktop tabloids tell them to think
• Demonstrations
  • Almost always get ignored. See the protests against the Iraq war for example
    
• Exercise my right to bear arms? (assuming we had that right)
  
  • How will shooting anyone help my movement?
    

Heck if I know. I would say do what America did and leave, but it certainly didn't make any real difference - America is equally pissing on our rights as the UK is yours. Screw all organized government. You put people in office, pay them ridiculous salaries, and watch as they crap all over the nation - and then the next term, we do it again. People are considerably retarded, but the condition is so wide-spread nobody notices.

jonathansampson said:

W3bbo said:

*snip*

Heck if I know. I would say do what America did and leave, but it certainly didn't make any real difference - America is equally pissing on our rights as the UK is yours. Screw all organized government. You put people in office, pay them ridiculous salaries, and watch as they crap all over the nation - and then the next term, we do it again. People are considerably retarded, but the condition is so wide-spread nobody notices.

Meanwhile, in America.