The question everyone has on their mind

Ok, its like the elephant in the room.  Its the one question that everyone has but is afraid to ask.  How much will Windows 7 cost?

It's not that we're afraid to ask the question, we just don't see the point -- they're not going to tell us until they're ready!

And it will still be 'too much'

Herbie

Dr Herbie said:

It's not that we're afraid to ask the question, we just don't see the point -- they're not going to tell us until they're ready!

And it will still be 'too much'

Herbie

The price isn't important for me...

No matter how much it cost, I'll still get my copy from MSDN subscription without addtional charge.

cheong said:

Dr Herbie said:

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The price isn't important for me...

No matter how much it cost, I'll still get my copy from MSDN subscription without addtional charge.

for development purposes

riiiiiiiiiiight

Dr Herbie said:

It's not that we're afraid to ask the question, we just don't see the point -- they're not going to tell us until they're ready!

And it will still be 'too much'

Herbie

Just be prepared to have to remortgage your home, sell your car, and sell all your family heirlooms and you will be halfway there. Microsoft always charges a premium. Heres my price list: Home Edition: $300.00 Professional: $599.00 Ultimate: $800.00 Or you can always download gNewSense for free and support free and open standards. Look at how much inroad BSD and Linux are making in the world. 99.9% of mobile devices use Linux, The most popular option on Netbooks is Linux and Mac OS X is BSD based. If a raving Microsoft fanboy like Rory Blythe can change everyone else can too.

corona_coder said:

Dr Herbie said:

*snip*

Just be prepared to have to remortgage your home, sell your car, and sell all your family heirlooms and you will be halfway there. Microsoft always charges a premium. Heres my price list: Home Edition: $300.00 Professional: $599.00 Ultimate: $800.00 Or you can always download gNewSense for free and support free and open standards. Look at how much inroad BSD and Linux are making in the world. 99.9% of mobile devices use Linux, The most popular option on Netbooks is Linux and Mac OS X is BSD based. If a raving Microsoft fanboy like Rory Blythe can change everyone else can too.

So you'd have to remortgage your house just to raise (at worst) $800.00 ?  Boy, am I glad I don't work on free software.  Luckily I get paid to write software for the Windows OS, so I can afford to raise that without having to sell anything.

Herbie

Dr Herbie said:

corona_coder said:

*snip*

So you'd have to remortgage your house just to raise (at worst) $800.00 ?  Boy, am I glad I don't work on free software.  Luckily I get paid to write software for the Windows OS, so I can afford to raise that without having to sell anything.

Herbie

$800? Convert it to Euros and you've got spare change.

corona_coder said:

Dr Herbie said:

*snip*

Just be prepared to have to remortgage your home, sell your car, and sell all your family heirlooms and you will be halfway there. Microsoft always charges a premium. Heres my price list: Home Edition: $300.00 Professional: $599.00 Ultimate: $800.00 Or you can always download gNewSense for free and support free and open standards. Look at how much inroad BSD and Linux are making in the world. 99.9% of mobile devices use Linux, The most popular option on Netbooks is Linux and Mac OS X is BSD based. If a raving Microsoft fanboy like Rory Blythe can change everyone else can too.

$800.00 for a working OS or three weeks of my life for a free one?

Hard choice,...

TommyCarlier said:

Dr Herbie said:

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$800? Convert it to Euros and you've got spare change.

That's £550. Six months back it would have been £398. I think I may wait until the credit crunch has subsided because Vista is a great OS. You never know, Britain may join the Euro if things continue as they are.

Apart from having the latest, just because you can, is there really a need to upgrade? If you do Windows Forms development, do you really need Visual Studio 2008 or the forthcoming 2010?

vesuvius said:

TommyCarlier said:

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That's £550. Six months back it would have been £398. I think I may wait until the credit crunch has subsided because Vista is a great OS. You never know, Britain may join the Euro if things continue as they are.

Apart from having the latest, just because you can, is there really a need to upgrade? If you do Windows Forms development, do you really need Visual Studio 2008 or the forthcoming 2010?

I develop in Windows Forms and I must say that Visual Studio 2008 makes me a lot more productive. Even though I'm still developing in .NET 2.0, I can use most of the language features from C# 3 (var, automatic properties, extension methods, ...). And I really like the fact that my C# code is compiled in the background, while I'm typing, providing me with almost instant error messages (squigly underlines, yeah!).

corona_coder said:

Dr Herbie said:

*snip*

Just be prepared to have to remortgage your home, sell your car, and sell all your family heirlooms and you will be halfway there. Microsoft always charges a premium. Heres my price list: Home Edition: $300.00 Professional: $599.00 Ultimate: $800.00 Or you can always download gNewSense for free and support free and open standards. Look at how much inroad BSD and Linux are making in the world. 99.9% of mobile devices use Linux, The most popular option on Netbooks is Linux and Mac OS X is BSD based. If a raving Microsoft fanboy like Rory Blythe can change everyone else can too.

Get what you pay for eh..

stevo_ said:

corona_coder said:

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Get what you pay for eh..

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - £239.99 Retail / OEM £165

Although Ultimate Edition is just a scam. A way to charge people more for getting what really amounts to Windows XP Professional.
 
Equivalent editions (functionality)
Windows 7 Basic - n/a
Windows 7 Home Premium - XP Home
Windows 7 Ultimate - Windows XP Professional

Equivalent editions (pricing)
Windows 7 Basic - Windows XP Home
Windows 7 Home Premium - Windows XP Professional
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - n/a

So it is really a hidden way to increase the price without people getting upset about it. Windows 7 Basic is used by nobody and Microsoft is fine with that because it only exists as a way to force the price of Home Premium and by extension Ultimate up. The fact that people are upset by the lack of "Ultimate Extras" just makes me feel a little sorry for you...

ManipUni said:

stevo_ said:

*snip*

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - £239.99 Retail / OEM £165

Although Ultimate Edition is just a scam. A way to charge people more for getting what really amounts to Windows XP Professional.
 
Equivalent editions (functionality)
Windows 7 Basic - n/a
Windows 7 Home Premium - XP Home
Windows 7 Ultimate - Windows XP Professional

Equivalent editions (pricing)
Windows 7 Basic - Windows XP Home
Windows 7 Home Premium - Windows XP Professional
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - n/a

So it is really a hidden way to increase the price without people getting upset about it. Windows 7 Basic is used by nobody and Microsoft is fine with that because it only exists as a way to force the price of Home Premium and by extension Ultimate up. The fact that people are upset by the lack of "Ultimate Extras" just makes me feel a little sorry for you...

7 Home Premium = XP Pro?  If they include remote desktop server in Home Premium, then there really is no reason to get Ultimate.  --nevermind, I just saw that it was only a pricing comparison

My predictions on price will be (full retail)

7 Home = $129.99, $199.99 for a 3 machine home license
7 Business = $199.99
7 Ulimate = $249.99

I think the most annoying thing about seeing no remote desktop stuff in Home editions is that it makes all the remote desktop features of Windows Home Server useless. It's a device intended for the home. That stuff isn't in home editions. Why didn't they do that math?

ManipUni said:

stevo_ said:

*snip*

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - £239.99 Retail / OEM £165

Although Ultimate Edition is just a scam. A way to charge people more for getting what really amounts to Windows XP Professional.
 
Equivalent editions (functionality)
Windows 7 Basic - n/a
Windows 7 Home Premium - XP Home
Windows 7 Ultimate - Windows XP Professional

Equivalent editions (pricing)
Windows 7 Basic - Windows XP Home
Windows 7 Home Premium - Windows XP Professional
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - n/a

So it is really a hidden way to increase the price without people getting upset about it. Windows 7 Basic is used by nobody and Microsoft is fine with that because it only exists as a way to force the price of Home Premium and by extension Ultimate up. The fact that people are upset by the lack of "Ultimate Extras" just makes me feel a little sorry for you...

Equivalent editions (pricing)
Windows 7 Basic - Windows XP Home
Windows 7 Home Premium - Windows XP MCE 2005
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - Windows XP Professional

I'd guess much the same as Vista?

spivonious said:

ManipUni said:

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7 Home Premium = XP Pro?  If they include remote desktop server in Home Premium, then there really is no reason to get Ultimate.  --nevermind, I just saw that it was only a pricing comparison

My predictions on price will be (full retail)

7 Home = $129.99, $199.99 for a 3 machine home license
7 Business = $199.99
7 Ulimate = $249.99

Attach about $200.00 more and you probably got a ballpark figure.  If the cost of Windows is too much and gNewSense is too hard for you guys to learn you can always use rj's distro and save some money.   I mean since you guys like it so much and you think its so great.

corona_coder said:

spivonious said:

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Attach about $200.00 more and you probably got a ballpark figure.  If the cost of Windows is too much and gNewSense is too hard for you guys to learn you can always use rj's distro and save some money.   I mean since you guys like it so much and you think its so great.

gNewSense is the worst name ever.  Why would I want to use something that's a nuisance?