EU: No IE in Windows

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10144602-75.html?tag=newsLatestHeadlinesArea.0


* on the bright side... that might just fix win7 for summer release

Oh, God. So now, in addition to Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Business, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 7 Home Edition N, Windows 7 Business Enition N, and Windows 7 Ultimate Edition N, we'll have Windows 7 Home Edition I, Windows 7 Business Edition I, and Windows 7 Ultimate Edition I and Windows 7 Home Edition NI, Windows 7 Business Enition NI, and Windows 7 Ultimate Edition NI. Thanks, EU. Maybe you can get a few extra copies for Strassbourg, then at least it looks like somebody bought them.

I knew this was coming, just wait tho because calc.exe is next.. YOU HEARD IT HERE, REMEMBER THAT.

Bas said:

Oh, God. So now, in addition to Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Business, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 7 Home Edition N, Windows 7 Business Enition N, and Windows 7 Ultimate Edition N, we'll have Windows 7 Home Edition I, Windows 7 Business Edition I, and Windows 7 Ultimate Edition I and Windows 7 Home Edition NI, Windows 7 Business Enition NI, and Windows 7 Ultimate Edition NI. Thanks, EU. Maybe you can get a few extra copies for Strassbourg, then at least it looks like somebody bought them.

Well it looks like the  "Windows 7 NI" editions might be the only editions Microsoft will be able to legally sell anyway.. I think it would be nice if they had an option to pick what browser to use when you first start the computer.

stevo_ said:

I knew this was coming, just wait tho because calc.exe is next.. YOU HEARD IT HERE, REMEMBER THAT.

Wolfram Research (makers of Mathematica) to sue Microsoft for anti-trust?

Bass said:

Bas said:

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Well it looks like the  "Windows 7 NI" editions might be the only editions Microsoft will be able to legally sell anyway.. I think it would be nice if they had an option to pick what browser to use when you first start the computer.

Which browsers should make the list?

Bas said:

Bass said:

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Which browsers should make the list?

To do be fair the list can't be included, instead you can download a number of lists online.. o wait

Bas said:

Bass said:

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Which browsers should make the list?

firefox:   not bad.. still slower in windows than IE
safari:     fast but alien in windows
chrome:  very fast - but no options (ad blocker, full screen)
ie7 -  fast in windows - ugly locked bar UI
ie8 -  broken... garbage
ie6 -  fast in windows, great simple UI, not boxy, coolbars

Im all for IE6! 

Ugh jamie don't start.. ie6 + great simple ui? are you on glue?

stevo_ said:

Ugh jamie don't start.. ie6 + great simple ui? are you on glue?

if i could push a button - and have win7 run IE6 UI i would. (with ie7 rendering/guts)

i hated ie7 (locked ugly) and ie8 is a joke.

*also includes the way IE6 handled full screen and inline ftp and explorer integration

sorry but... they have ruined IE.  i dont even care if its removed anymore.. and thats saying something coming from a fan

Bass said:

stevo_ said:

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Wolfram Research (makers of Mathematica) to sue Microsoft for anti-trust?

Yes, because now that Calculator has arbitrary-precision arithmetic support it's competing with the Mathematica Kernel now!

(even though MM's APA system is powered the GPL'd GMP.

jamie said:

stevo_ said:

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if i could push a button - and have win7 run IE6 UI i would. (with ie7 rendering/guts)

i hated ie7 (locked ugly) and ie8 is a joke.

*also includes the way IE6 handled full screen and inline ftp and explorer integration

sorry but... they have ruined IE.  i dont even care if its removed anymore.. and thats saying something coming from a fan

Well IE8 is a joke, I agree with that.. but I cant fault the IE7+ UI, its simple, compact and looks great.

stevo_ said:

jamie said:

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Well IE8 is a joke, I agree with that.. but I cant fault the IE7+ UI, its simple, compact and looks great.

I like Microsoft's idea of going for better discovery by getting rid of menubars and the simplified Page / Tools menus in IE7 work pretty well. But my main issues:

a) Why couldn't they use tab graphics that respect system visual styles or at least color settings? IE7's blue tabs don't look good on every computer.
b) The tabs can get pretty unresponsive and laggy
c) There's no Down state for the tabs, just Up, Over, and Selected which adds to the laggy feel
d) The Advanced Settings area is a shame. They removed per-item help and have a horizontal scrollbar. Ugly.

stevo_ said:

jamie said:

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Well IE8 is a joke, I agree with that.. but I cant fault the IE7+ UI, its simple, compact and looks great.

you know what would be cool - if they had win7 Explorer and IE8 - like normal with Web pizza Slices and Read Lists etc....

but then they had a separate option:   Explorer advanced and Internet Exporer Advanced

"Are you sure you want to turn on the above features?"
* Microsoft does not recommend using these versions unless you are experienced with computers and windows

ENABLE

"Are you sure?"

YES


then you get explorer using the tree and UP, IE has integration again, ftp works again, full screen is true full screen again, coolbars are back

Then the new users/children are safe - and people who LIKED WINDOWS FOR 12 YEARS can have that "option"

Will this delay Win7?

I remember the days when IE services the desktop... what was it called "Active Desktop?" And IE is integrated into Windows Explorer, right? If you happen to type in a URL into the Explorer address bar?

MS said during the DOJ monopoly trial that they have to ship IE w/ Windows because it was so integrated.

Minh said:

Will this delay Win7?

I remember the days when IE services the desktop... what was it called "Active Desktop?" And IE is integrated into Windows Explorer, right? If you happen to type in a URL into the Explorer address bar?

MS said during the DOJ monopoly trial that they have to ship IE w/ Windows because it was so integrated.

Nashville?  ah my very favorite thing MS ever released...
that it has slowly been disabling ever since

SECURITY ARG!


- ps - you should have seen my active desktop company intranet 

So, if Windows 7 doesn't come with a browser, how are you supposed to get one?  I think we've reached a point where a web browser is a necessary piece of an OS.  How come they're not going after Apple bundling Safari?

spivonious said:

So, if Windows 7 doesn't come with a browser, how are you supposed to get one?  I think we've reached a point where a web browser is a necessary piece of an OS.  How come they're not going after Apple bundling Safari?

Apple sends them free imacs every few months.