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PaoloM
Hypermediocrity
No, I like my roads paved and taken care of, thanks.
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I love the way that you explained what a tea party is and what your opinion is of it.
Good job!
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Roads.PaoloM said:No, I like my roads paved and taken care of, thanks.
Who needs roads?
Learn to walk to work.
Gasoline will be $10 a gallon with the new cap and trade carbon tax.
Work where you sleep.
Economize.
The Revolution Continues!
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The zealots have no clue Ray, and it's not my intention to disparage anyone; but ignorance is bliss.raymond said:
Roads.PaoloM said:*snip*
Who needs roads?
Learn to walk to work.
Gasoline will be $10 a gallon with the new cap and trade carbon tax.
Work where you sleep.
Economize.
The Revolution Continues!
They'll realize in 10 years what all this unrepayable debt really means, unfortunately, it will be a day late by then. -
blowdart
Peek-a-boo
It's Raymond, he doesn't have opinions, he just repeats what he's told.JeremyJ said:I love the way that you explained what a tea party is and what your opinion is of it.
Good job!
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PaoloM said:No, I like my roads paved and taken care of, thanks.
Hmmm... I didn't know it takes Trillions of dollars to pave those roads.
Wow, what are they making those roads with? Gold ?
I guess the local and state governments share of Road maintenance wouldn't help much if the Fed insists on paving roads with Gold.
I get tears at the benevolence shown by Fed government. May be we should send 1000% of our salaries to Fed instead.
PS: Oh and I forgot to mention that we should all show our allegiance to our masta... King Obama.
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phreaks said:
The zealots have no clue Ray, and it's not my intention to disparage anyone; but ignorance is bliss.raymond said:*snip*
They'll realize in 10 years what all this unrepayable debt really means, unfortunately, it will be a day late by then.
The Tax Day Tea Parties are encouraging for the simple reason they are local grassroots efforts by individuals.
I have not yet blogged about it yet but the One has an achilles heal, he is busting Social Security with his massive deficits and massive cap and trade carbon dioxide taxes.
The baby boomers will go after him with a vengeance once the dots are connected.
The problem is both ignorance and apathy.
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Maddus Mattus
Maddus on C9, Is often controversial, But fun none-the-less -evildictaitor
$10 a gallon?raymond said:
Roads.PaoloM said:*snip*
Who needs roads?
Learn to walk to work.
Gasoline will be $10 a gallon with the new cap and trade carbon tax.
Work where you sleep.
Economize.
The Revolution Continues!
DEAL! -
blowdart
Peek-a-boo
That's an interesting new definition of grass roots you have there give the backers and the funding for strategic activism llc.raymond said:phreaks said:*snip*
The Tax Day Tea Parties are encouraging for the simple reason they are local grassroots efforts by individuals.
I have not yet blogged about it yet but the One has an achilles heal, he is busting Social Security with his massive deficits and massive cap and trade carbon dioxide taxes.
The baby boomers will go after him with a vengeance once the dots are connected.
The problem is both ignorance and apathy.
Can a grass roots movement be funding by an major political party, even if the cash is funnelled so it's not obvious? Nope.
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blowdart said:
That's an interesting new definition of grass roots you have there give the backers and the funding for strategic activism llc.raymond said:*snip*
Can a grass roots movement be funding by an major political party, even if the cash is funnelled so it's not obvious? Nope.
Actually the leadership of both political parties oppose the FairTax and their supporters who are one of the groups of individuals that are organizing the Tea Parties all over the United States.
The only well-known politician that has come out in a big way for the Tea Parties is:
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
What if the FairTax system has serious issues, what if that's why there is cross-partisan derision of the idea?raymond said:blowdart said:*snip*
Actually the leadership of both political parties oppose the FairTax and their supporters who are one of the groups of individuals that are organizing the Tea Parties all over the United States.
The only well-known politician that has come out in a big way for the Tea Parties is:
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dahat
inanity makes my head hurt
W3bbo said:
What if the FairTax system has serious issues, what if that's why there is cross-partisan derision of the idea?raymond said:*snip*
And yet we don't see the kind of concerted and factual bi-partision opposition to it that one would expect if there were serious inherent issues to it (other than the selling points which many politicians are not keen on).
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There are no serious issues with the FairTax.W3bbo said:
What if the FairTax system has serious issues, what if that's why there is cross-partisan derision of the idea?raymond said:*snip*
There are thousand of issues with the existing Federal income tax system.
The lobbyists on K street, professional politicians, and their staffs oppose it.
The Road to Riches is Called K Street
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062101632.html
Why? The lobbyists make big money from corporations to make changes in the tax code.
The staffs know the existing code and would also like to keep their jobs.
The politicians receive campaign contributions from the executives of corporations that want changes in the IRS code.
So, both Democrats and Republicans oppose the FairTax.
The leadership of both parties want it to go away.
The American people are saying enough is enough, bring on the FairTax.
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CannotResolveSymbol
Microsoft: Who do you want to execute today?
Except that there is one huge, serious issue with the FairTax: sales taxes are regressive with respect to income.raymond said:
There are no serious issues with the FairTax.W3bbo said:*snip*
There are thousand of issues with the existing Federal income tax system.
The lobbyists on K street, professional politicians, and their staffs oppose it.
The Road to Riches is Called K Street
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062101632.html
Why? The lobbyists make big money from corporations to make changes in the tax code.
The staffs know the existing code and would also like to keep their jobs.
The politicians receive campaign contributions from the executives of corporations that want changes in the IRS code.
So, both Democrats and Republicans oppose the FairTax.
The leadership of both parties want it to go away.
The American people are saying enough is enough, bring on the FairTax.
The FairTax would have low- and middle-income individuals paying a much higher portion of their income as tax, while the rich would be paying a much smaller percentage of their income as tax.
That's why there's no support from either the Democrats or the Republicans for the FairTax: it's an inherently flawed idea.
Having just prepared my taxes, I'd like to see tax reform (the system's far too complicated, and I even file the 1040EZ), but the FairTax isn't the right way to go about it.
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Americans want to remove income tax and push it all onto sales tax? Then on top of that they wish to give out "rebates" to poor people? And they're calling it "FairTax?"
LOL ... April Fools? -
Dr Herbie
Horses for courses
I'd say it was "wealthy Americans", rather than just "Americans". It's not the first time I've heard that idea (a 'Clarksonite' work collegue espoused it several years ago), and it still sounds unfair.ManipUni said:Americans want to remove income tax and push it all onto sales tax? Then on top of that they wish to give out "rebates" to poor people? And they're calling it "FairTax?"
LOL ... April Fools?
The basic idea of income tax is that there is a set amount of money required for a basic standard of living. Anything earned above that is 'disposable income' and subject to higher tax. The more disposable income you have , the higher the tax goes. To me this makes sense. The arguments should be where the income brackets are, the tax rates, and the complexity of the calculations.
Herbie
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dahat
inanity makes my head hurt
@CannotResolveSymbol: You are ignoring many things (so many I’ll only focus on one here)... including the prebate system that would drasticly reduced the tax burden of lower income earners and encourage saving and investment by people at all levels of income.ManipUni said:Americans want to remove income tax and push it all onto sales tax? Then on top of that they wish to give out "rebates" to poor people? And they're calling it "FairTax?"
LOL ... April Fools?
I highly suggest you take a look at some of the research that has been done on the subject as there are a fair number of people far smarter than you and I who specialize in these sorts of bits who have all determined much the same... that under the FairTax both the poor and middle class would come out better than they do today under the current system.
As one quick example, take this quick example graph of estimated burdens under the FairTax from FairTax.org:
@ManipUni: In fact the prebates would be given to every head of household in the country for the amount of tax they would pay on the necessities up to the poverty level for a household of their size... though for those in the lower income brackets, they would certainly beneifit from it more than Warren Buffet or Bill Gates would.
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