Hi,
I'm trying to use Live ID as lgoin method for the next update of my website
www.ksj.be, but i'm really frusterated by the lack of costumisation. At http://live.ksj.be/webauth/sample/ i got the sample code running at it works (sort of). But here is my question:
# how do i use the 'sign in' link without haveing to use an iframe embedded. I want my own login button design.
# how come if you log out from the example or from
http://www.liveside.net for example you log out from every place that you are signed in with you Live ID but channel 9 makes it so you only log out from channel9 (and don't get the
ugly logout screen from microfost telleing you witch site's you are logging out of)
I found the msdn documentation but am still wondering arround. Here is my point of view:
The documentation about the sign in link is at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb676638.aspx at shows no way to delete the text and just show an imahe user click on. Or how to localise
the text (like on channel9)
But then agina there is also somehting like "Delegated Authentication" witch has documentating at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc287637.aspx and is something you need to use if you
want to use the new Windows Live Messnger Library (not just the webbar). You need it of you want to do 'Application Contacts'
I have watched a lot of MIX09 video's and read a lot of documentating, would really like to get this working.
So i guess Channel 9 uses "Delegated Authentication" ? Or do you have some priviledge that's not open to other developpers yet?
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CKurt
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CKurt
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Then msdn also linked to this page https://msm.live.com/wizard/admin/userinfo.aspx to get some id for the 'Delagated Authentication' bt that site looks, old , ugly , has nothing to do with azure and doesn't even render right in most browsers!
and then "Delegated Authentication for the Windows Live Messenger Web Toolkit" is not the same as "Delegated Authentication for window live id". Is one the new version of the other ? the more easy version? does it have more limitation about the data you can access? This 'login' control has another layout (again) http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd570058.aspx
I'm starting from zero right know and want to know the right direction to go in. Or should I start playing with Live Services and see how that works since that will be the future right? -
You can construct the link yourself if you want: just hyperlink to https://login.live.com/wlogin.srf?appid=000000004C00F390&alg=wsignin1.0&lc=1033 (replace your app ID).CKurt said:Then msdn also linked to this page https://msm.live.com/wizard/admin/userinfo.aspx to get some id for the 'Delagated Authentication' bt that site looks, old , ugly , has nothing to do with azure and doesn't even render right in most browsers!
and then "Delegated Authentication for the Windows Live Messenger Web Toolkit" is not the same as "Delegated Authentication for window live id". Is one the new version of the other ? the more easy version? does it have more limitation about the data you can access? This 'login' control has another layout (again) http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd570058.aspx
I'm starting from zero right know and want to know the right direction to go in. Or should I start playing with Live Services and see how that works since that will be the future right?
You should follow the SDK here (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb676633.aspx) which talks about customization of the UI (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd548478.aspx).
Delegated Auth is about getting access to user data not for authenticating the user.
re. logout - that screen showing you the sites you've logged out from is shown when some website doesn't know how to handle the sign out. it is alerting you that you haven't been signed out of the site.
for more help hit http://dev.live.com/liveid and then on right click support forums -
SlackmasterK
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True. The only issue you'll really have is that AJAX can mess up the ClearCookie action.anguslogan said:
You can construct the link yourself if you want: just hyperlink to https://login.live.com/wlogin.srf?appid=000000004C00F390&alg=wsignin1.0&lc=1033 (replace your app ID).CKurt said:*snip*
You should follow the SDK here (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb676633.aspx) which talks about customization of the UI (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd548478.aspx).
Delegated Auth is about getting access to user data not for authenticating the user.
re. logout - that screen showing you the sites you've logged out from is shown when some website doesn't know how to handle the sign out. it is alerting you that you haven't been signed out of the site.
for more help hit http://dev.live.com/liveid and then on right click support forums -
Live ID needs to be optimized for switching Live IDs. I know it has been already, and that is extremely nice, but there has to be an even better solution....
My school recently switched to Live@Edu, and with that came another Live ID. This becomes extremely complicated. I have a @hotmail.com ID that I am forced to use because of my beta participation on connect.microsoft.com. I got a new @live.com account so I could have a better formated shorter email. I forward from @hotmail to @live. Even though my Live IDs are linked, I still have to switch between them for sites like connect.
As a result I have 3 accounts at channel9, becausing signing in and out is a pain sometimes. Intelman Trix.Rox and now ChemE.
I also see this message almost all the time.
My classmates are also quite annoyed by this. Though I assume they only have two live ids.
If only I could combine them all, which is impossible. I've emailed the contact on connect, they were not able to help, plus all my future beta invitations will probably be sent to my old houtmail acount.
As for Channel9, I just do not know. It still does not solve the bigger problem of the frustrations with this service. -
Duncanma
"yeah that's awful close, but that's not why I'm so hard done by"
Hey there, I'm not the right guy to answer a Live ID question (that would be Sampy), but one issue you might be having is that you are probably using the 'lite' version of Windows Live ID that is meant for personal sites ... whereas we are using the full blown server installed version that is intended more for sites like us, MSDN, etc...
I'm not sure, but I suspect you are more limited in your control over the UI and behaviour of that version. -
Duncanma
"yeah that's awful close, but that's not why I'm so hard done by"
intelman said:Live ID needs to be optimized for switching Live IDs. I know it has been already, and that is extremely nice, but there has to be an even better solution....
My school recently switched to Live@Edu, and with that came another Live ID. This becomes extremely complicated. I have a @hotmail.com ID that I am forced to use because of my beta participation on connect.microsoft.com. I got a new @live.com account so I could have a better formated shorter email. I forward from @hotmail to @live. Even though my Live IDs are linked, I still have to switch between them for sites like connect.
As a result I have 3 accounts at channel9, becausing signing in and out is a pain sometimes. Intelman Trix.Rox and now ChemE.
I also see this message almost all the time.
My classmates are also quite annoyed by this. Though I assume they only have two live ids.
If only I could combine them all, which is impossible. I've emailed the contact on connect, they were not able to help, plus all my future beta invitations will probably be sent to my old houtmail acount.
As for Channel9, I just do not know. It still does not solve the bigger problem of the frustrations with this service.intelman said:As a result I have 3 accounts at channel9, becausing signing in and out is a pain sometimes. Intelman Trix.Rox and now ChemE.
I've tried something a bit crazy, I've associated your 3 live IDs with a single C9 account. I'm not 100% positive it will work, as it isn't a scenario we've tested (and I had to remove a table constraint to do it), but let me know if you start to always be recognized as Intelman and not any other of your IDs.
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SlackmasterK
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Hey here's a question for sampy or anyone else:
I have my live id and pw stored/cookied/whatever.
When I log into a Microsoft site, I can just click the login button and the page refreshes logged in.
When I log into my own Live ID enabled sites, I have to go thru the MS redirect login page.
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Well I certainly appreciate that. Looks like my Live@Edu account is associated with Intelman...Duncanma said:intelman said:*snip*
I've tried something a bit crazy, I've associated your 3 live IDs with a single C9 account. I'm not 100% positive it will work, as it isn't a scenario we've tested (and I had to remove a table constraint to do it), but let me know if you start to always be recognized as Intelman and not any other of your IDs.
It is like magic.
If only the Live ID allowed me to change my association at the other sites. I am just glad you came up with this creative solution for C9
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SlackmasterK
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W00t, C9 can now be extended to support multiple Live ID associations like StackOverflow!intelman said:
Well I certainly appreciate that. Looks like my Live@Edu account is associated with Intelman...Duncanma said:*snip*
It is like magic.
If only the Live ID allowed me to change my association at the other sites. I am just glad you came up with this creative solution for C9 -
Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)
haha, I'd be more happy if I could just move accounts between live IDs. I want my Zune account with the LiveID I'm using for messenger, and all the other sites. That's not possibleSlackmasterK said:
W00t, C9 can now be extended to support multiple Live ID associations like StackOverflow!intelman said:*snip*
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CKurt
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Thanks for the help!! I'll definitly check it all out. I just came back from Saint Petersburg (Really nice city btw !!)anguslogan said:
You can construct the link yourself if you want: just hyperlink to https://login.live.com/wlogin.srf?appid=000000004C00F390&alg=wsignin1.0&lc=1033 (replace your app ID).CKurt said:*snip*
You should follow the SDK here (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb676633.aspx) which talks about customization of the UI (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd548478.aspx).
Delegated Auth is about getting access to user data not for authenticating the user.
re. logout - that screen showing you the sites you've logged out from is shown when some website doesn't know how to handle the sign out. it is alerting you that you haven't been signed out of the site.
for more help hit http://dev.live.com/liveid and then on right click support forums
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