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spivonious said:

Are you sure? I thought they just renamed Kumo to Bing. At least Bing.com makes it seem like it's only search.

So is this the Basic, Express, Home, Business, Pro, Ultimate, Standard, Enterprise R2 2009 version?

spivonious said:

Are you sure? I thought they just renamed Kumo to Bing. At least Bing.com makes it seem like it's only search.

That sounds like what Ballmer was saying at D7, that the reason for the name is they wanted something just for search.

rhm said:

OK, the name is stupid - reminds of Chandler BING from Friends - but will it be any good as a search engine? Got to say I'm not that impressed with Google lately, they've been letting SEOers get away with murder, so there's a chance a better search could get at least one user

Agreed.

I've been using other search engines recently as Google does seem to have lost focus on who exactly is the customer, perhaps it's still in Beta?

Bing is a silly name but it is a word that is used dramatically already in every-day-speech to mean 'surprise' so I do get it, but it is daft so Microsoft is going to be on the back-foot from the get-go with this one.

Sabot said:

rhm said:

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Agreed.

I've been using other search engines recently as Google does seem to have lost focus on who exactly is the customer, perhaps it's still in Beta?

Bing is a silly name but it is a word that is used dramatically already in every-day-speech to mean 'surprise' so I do get it, but it is daft so Microsoft is going to be on the back-foot from the get-go with this one.

Because Google was such a great name? If you don't know what a google is, the name sounds even sillier than Bing.  If you do know what google means, it still seems like a very silly name for a search engine.

As for whether or not it will be any good... it already has one surprising self proclaimed "fan".  http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/255750/Woz-Bing!-Apple-Co-Founder-a-%22Big-Fan%22-of-Microsofts-New-Search-Engine

I'm not sure how it's going to work for my most common searches (all having to do with software development), but it looks like a dream come true for the average "consumer search".  Unlike Live Search, I'm sure I'll use Bing fairly frequently, even if it doesn't become my default search engine.

wkempf said:

Sabot said:

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Because Google was such a great name? If you don't know what a google is, the name sounds even sillier than Bing.  If you do know what google means, it still seems like a very silly name for a search engine.

As for whether or not it will be any good... it already has one surprising self proclaimed "fan".  http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/255750/Woz-Bing!-Apple-Co-Founder-a-%22Big-Fan%22-of-Microsofts-New-Search-Engine

I'm not sure how it's going to work for my most common searches (all having to do with software development), but it looks like a dream come true for the average "consumer search".  Unlike Live Search, I'm sure I'll use Bing fairly frequently, even if it doesn't become my default search engine.

But Google means nothing so you can turn it into whatever you wish. Kumo might have been the same way.

Plus attacking Google isn't really a valid defense of Microsoft's new name and constanting rebranding every two years...

ManipUni said:

wkempf said:

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But Google means nothing so you can turn it into whatever you wish. Kumo might have been the same way.

Plus attacking Google isn't really a valid defense of Microsoft's new name and constanting rebranding every two years...

Google means nothing?  Huh?

I was certainly not attacking Google. I was using Google as an example. Meaningful names aren't necessary to be effective.

wkempf said:

ManipUni said:

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Google means nothing?  Huh?

I was certainly not attacking Google. I was using Google as an example. Meaningful names aren't necessary to be effective.

The word "Google" means nothing. Just like "Kumo" means nothing. While "Bing" does already have a meaning...

We are all talking about the name, so we will remember it - and this is the key part - because if we remember the name - ***for whatever reason*** - we are more likely to use it (aka 'see what all the fuss is about')

... and if the product is actually good ... we are more likely to continue to use it.

It is a silly name but it is a catchy-attention-seeking name. If it is a success, in time, we will forget how silly it is.

ManipUni said:

wkempf said:

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The word "Google" means nothing. Just like "Kumo" means nothing. While "Bing" does already have a meaning...

Google == Googol == 10^100

TommyCarlier said:

ManipUni said:

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Google == Googol == 10^100

Bing == Bing Is Not Google

(thanks, PINE)

PaoloM said:

TommyCarlier said:

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Bing == Bing Is Not Google

(thanks, PINE)

that explains it

Bing in the States often indicates something is complete and/or correct. Pretty close to "Bingo!" when an answer to a question is correct, or "Badda-Bing!", etc. Perfect sense. They chose well, I think. Given Microsoft's history of naming things it could have been bad, real bad.

Now "Azure", I have problems with that one; where's my codeine....

PaoloM said:

TommyCarlier said:

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Bing == Bing Is Not Google

(thanks, PINE)

Love it

Appropos Google; The name isn't quite maningless, it was supposed to be Googol but they messed it up - but it still bears close association to that number, for obvious reasons. And further, Googleplex bears a close resemblence to Googolplex. The naming mistake is actually not that bad of an idea. Google rolls better off the tongue.

I'm not sure what Bing means and what the marketing people were thinking about but there are probably some meaning there.

Bing it?

It looks like Bing is a search engine with domain-specific support, assisting in specialized queries with actual data, not just indexed sites.

Kumo was supposedly a code-name, so who cares about that one. Although aren't we getting tired of having nice code-names replaced with terribly verbose finalized names; Indigo vs WCF; Avalon vs WPF; rolling off the tongue?

Bing | Cheapest laptop with blablabla | Go

Bingo!

You don't Bing. You bin/go!

OK enough nonsense from me for now

I remember when I was looking for a name for my own company: I paid a professional company to help me out and their suggestions were Ipsoa, Hyperion, etc. I sat down with a friend and a few beers and after two hours of brainstorming we came up with Blue Ice. Honestly that sounds much better to me and considering the investment it is definitely worth it. Marketing can be such a waist of money!!!

"Microsoft rebrands Hotmail/MSN/Live/.Net/Microsoft Search (Again)"

Can you substantiate this? Sure, they create a special version of Live Search but how do you get from that to a total rebrand of everything?
Dramatic effect?

exoteric said:

"Microsoft rebrands Hotmail/MSN/Live/.Net/Microsoft Search (Again)"

Can you substantiate this? Sure, they create a special version of Live Search but how do you get from that to a total rebrand of everything?
Dramatic effect?

I laughed pretty hard when I read this:

Q: What does "Bing" stand for?

A: "Bing Is Not Google".

ManipUni said:

wkempf said:

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The word "Google" means nothing. Just like "Kumo" means nothing. While "Bing" does already have a meaning...

Kumo means "spider" or "cloud" from Japanese.

And Virtual Earth is the first announced to move to the Bing Brand,  Bing Maps for Enterprise.