WWDC

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/phil-schiller-keynote-live-from-wwdc-2009/

Snow Leopard upgrade: 30$, family pack 50$.

CKurt said:

ZippyV said:

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I know I'm following, but still it's not quite like a Silverlight Live Stream.

"Snow Leopard will be available for all Intel Macs -- past and present. How should it be priced? Leopard was $129 and they want all Leopard users to upgrade to Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard will be $29 for those users."

"Family Pack available for $49. Will be released in September. A near-final developer preview available today."

Even if the leaked Best Buy memo is true, OSX is still cheaper, which again makes the current advertising campaign seem a little strange. Sure, Macs are more expensive. But Microsoft doesn't make PCs.

wkempf said:

CKurt said:

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"Snow Leopard will be available for all Intel Macs -- past and present. How should it be priced? Leopard was $129 and they want all Leopard users to upgrade to Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard will be $29 for those users."

"Family Pack available for $49. Will be released in September. A near-final developer preview available today."

Even if the leaked Best Buy memo is true, OSX is still cheaper, which again makes the current advertising campaign seem a little strange. Sure, Macs are more expensive. But Microsoft doesn't make PCs.

Is there ever anything notable tween osx service packs sorry releases?

Even the guys at work who use macs don't buy into it.

CKurt said:

wkempf said:

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And since microsoft doesn't make hardware computers they have to make there money of something else. Next, I also notice some stuff in Leopard that feels alike the same lines off what Windows 7 introduced.
# Exposé on a per APP basis (ALT-TAB per app in Windows 7)
# Rich Previews in Finder
# A video media player without any controls even if playing in a window...

This is an apple custom.. they observe others preview software, and then copy (often poorly) and release before they can.. then scream 'COPYING BÁSTARDS!' when the real deal releases.

CKurt said:

wkempf said:

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And since microsoft doesn't make hardware computers they have to make there money of something else. Next, I also notice some stuff in Leopard that feels alike the same lines off what Windows 7 introduced.
# Exposé on a per APP basis (ALT-TAB per app in Windows 7)
# Rich Previews in Finder
# A video media player without any controls even if playing in a window...

Yes, I fully understand how OS X is subsidised.  Won't change the fact that Joe Consumer will see this in a very negative light. I'm sure Apple saw this and is preparing to take advantage of it.

CKurt said:

wkempf said:

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Indeed, but I don't think there is much microsoft can do about it. Instead making a damn good Windows 7 and hope a lot of games are released for it.

If Live Mesh would stay free (or a license included in every windows version) then they can take a leap ahead i think... Sync and communication is clearly the near future.

1.  Price the Home edition as closely to OS X as they can (remembering that Microsoft makes money off of other software written for the OS in much the same way that Apple uses hardware to subsidise, and not much has to be done about the business level editions).

2. Have at least the Home edition include "Family Pack" licensing.

3. Prepare for the need for some sort of advertising response. Maybe something along the lines of new PC purchase + how many full price OS upgrades == Mac purchase + how many full price OS upgrades.

They may still be in trouble regardless of this. As great as I think the campaign is (Macs are overpriced), it may not have been a smart move.

lol...  This should come as a wallpaper in Windows 7

"Instead making a damn good Windows 7"

 pfff its a bit too late for that.

Dovella, osx has been 64bit for awhile.. just not entirely, what their actually whacking off about is dumping 32bit.. aparently customers want less compatability.. or perhaps all applications need 8billion gigs of ram to work..

The rationale is that the idiots that sit there in the crowd will think.. 64BIT?! THATS A NUMBER.... it happened in the console wars years ago.. 16bit, 32bit.. n64.. 64 64 64 64..

ZippyV said:

Snow Leopard upgrade: 30$, family pack 50$.

Microsoft service packs are free...

This is my favorite slide:

Hint to Apple: when your list of features include "Faster empty trash", "Animations" and "Customizable search scope" - it's a service pack, not a new OS.

How about the upgrade to enable 802.11n on hardware that was already in the machine, that really took the cake in my opinion; it was a while back but just shows how much apple is in to offer it's user base any type of value-adds.

It's always something slighty newer and give me more money to see it.

Fcuk apple, they make quality products but don't show much in terms of loyalty to their user base.

AndyC said:

This is my favorite slide:

Hint to Apple: when your list of features include "Faster empty trash", "Animations" and "Customizable search scope" - it's a service pack, not a new OS.

I'm with you on this one... It's like they told a random person from the dev team to assemble all these "features" for Snow Leopard and photoshop them into a slide. It's a service pack, for crying out loud  - these are not features that usually crown a new OS... The only thing I give them a moderate thumbs up for is better 64bit support. But still, presenting such a crappy "new" OS and trying to badmouth Windows 7 at the same time is just plain stupid. They should have really just kept quiet and left Microsoft alone this time.