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blowdart Peek-a-boo

Jun 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Operating+Systems&articleId=9135007&taxonomyId=89&pageNumber=1

Microsoft has said it will price the full editions of Windows 7E -- the "E" stands for "Europe" -- at the lower upgrade prices until at least Dec. 31, 2009.

So that's interesting. Until you realise that Europe doesn't get any upgrade packages anyway, it's full clean install or nothing, because an upgrade from an existing system might leave bits of IE behind. So wow, we get a whole two months in Europe to get a cheaper version of Win7. That's "nice".

Of course it's still overpriced compared to the US upgrade prices:

The "full" version of Windows Professional will cost EU users €285, or $400.28, at Tuesday's exchange rate, even though that edition will be priced at the "upgrade" amount. In other words, EU customers will pay twice the $199.99 U.S. price.
giovanni

Jul 01, 2009 at 2:03 AM

Thank you EU for trying to include another browser in the OS and forgetting that in general we pay 200% the price of software in the US...
ZippyV Fired Up

Jul 01, 2009 at 3:33 AM

giovanni said:

Thank you EU for trying to include another browser in the OS and forgetting that in general we pay 200% the price of software in the US...

... for less features: no voice recognition, no media center content.
CKurt while( ( !succeed=try() ) ) { }

Jul 01, 2009 at 4:11 AM

ZippyV said:

giovanni said:

*snip*

... for less features: no voice recognition, no media center content.

My Media Center Guide works perfectly, but i guess you are talking about netflix and such?
Bas It finds lightbulbs.

Jul 01, 2009 at 4:37 AM

I'm getting pretty tired of this crap. I wonder how much Macs cost in Europe compared to the US?
W3bbo Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.

Jul 01, 2009 at 4:46 AM

Bas said:

I'm getting pretty tired of this crap. I wonder how much Macs cost in Europe compared to the US?

In the UK, substantially more; on mainland Europe? not that much. You'll have better luck outside the EU though since the taxes might be lower. I'd give Apple Russia a try first.

ZippyV: what's that about voice recognition?
ZippyV Fired Up

Jul 01, 2009 at 5:31 AM

W3bbo said:

Bas said:

*snip*

In the UK, substantially more; on mainland Europe? not that much. You'll have better luck outside the EU though since the taxes might be lower. I'd give Apple Russia a try first.

ZippyV: what's that about voice recognition?

English only.
Bas It finds lightbulbs.

Jul 01, 2009 at 5:36 AM

ZippyV said:

W3bbo said:

*snip*

English only.

Not only is the voice recognition English only, you can't even dictate in English if you have a non-English UI. It just refuses to run.

Didn't stop them from advertising that feature with Vista, though.
Chadk excuse me - do you has a flavor?

Jul 01, 2009 at 5:56 AM

Not a chance I'm paying $400 for Windows 7, when I can get a Mac AND Leopard(Snow Leopard once that ships) for $800.

Did I also mention that Snow Leopard will be $29 for the upgrade version?
giovanni

Jul 01, 2009 at 6:10 AM

Chadk said:

Not a chance I'm paying $400 for Windows 7, when I can get a Mac AND Leopard(Snow Leopard once that ships) for $800.

Did I also mention that Snow Leopard will be $29 for the upgrade version?

If you pay in US$ you won't be paying $400. Apple (and Adobe, and al.) all sell their software and hardware for twice as much in the EU compared to the US (sales taxes account for a difference of about 20% depending on the country).
stevo_ Human after all

Jul 01, 2009 at 6:52 AM

Chadk said:

Not a chance I'm paying $400 for Windows 7, when I can get a Mac AND Leopard(Snow Leopard once that ships) for $800.

Did I also mention that Snow Leopard will be $29 for the upgrade version?

Uh, thats based on the fact you probably prefer OS X.. whilst imacs look great, I can't stand that pantsy * OS.. and I use it often.
Dodo I'm your creativity creator™ :)

Jul 01, 2009 at 7:04 AM

Bas said:

ZippyV said:

*snip*

Not only is the voice recognition English only, you can't even dictate in English if you have a non-English UI. It just refuses to run.

Didn't stop them from advertising that feature with Vista, though.

Voice recognition is working in German, too. At least it did with Vista, I don't think it won't work in 7 anymore since it's basically the same.
Sven Groot Don't worry... I'm a doctor.

Jul 01, 2009 at 7:06 AM

Dodo said:

Bas said:

*snip*

Voice recognition is working in German, too. At least it did with Vista, I don't think it won't work in 7 anymore since it's basically the same.

There's a few languages that get voice recognition, including German, but Dutch isn't among them, and in all cases, your UI language must match the language you're trying to use.
giovanni

Jul 01, 2009 at 7:29 AM

Sven Groot said:

Dodo said:

*snip*

There's a few languages that get voice recognition, including German, but Dutch isn't among them, and in all cases, your UI language must match the language you're trying to use.

One more reason to use the English UI. Not a good one, I admit.
BHpaddock

Jul 01, 2009 at 10:54 AM

If you're in Europe you get the FULL version of Windows 7 for less than the Vista upgrade version... so what exactly is the complaint about?
Bas It finds lightbulbs.

Jul 01, 2009 at 11:00 AM

BHpaddock said:

If you're in Europe you get the FULL version of Windows 7 for less than the Vista upgrade version... so what exactly is the complaint about?

The fact that it's damned expensive.
blowdart Peek-a-boo

Jul 01, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Bas said:

BHpaddock said:

*snip*

The fact that it's damned expensive.

And it's reformat and reinstall time.

And it's a limited time offer. For all of two months from the release date (although to be fair maybe an upgrade version will appear after that)
matthews

Jul 01, 2009 at 11:40 AM

blowdart said:

Bas said:

*snip*

And it's reformat and reinstall time.

And it's a limited time offer. For all of two months from the release date (although to be fair maybe an upgrade version will appear after that)

Can you not upgrade in the Full versions at all? I know it's possible in the RC, and I'd imagine it ought to be the same as that. Or is it just the E versions that can't upgrade?

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