Microsoft to patch MS Paint?

Since Microsoft replaced a good version of Paint with this buggy, poorly designed, trash I was wondering if they were planning on releasing a patch for it any time soon?

Transparent Selection still drops off bits of a selection - when rotating, or resizing,. Colo[u]r changing is inconsistent amongst tools. Plus I still cannot right click to change the secondary colo[u]r.

Seriously, I think it is great that Microsoft gives interns a shot, but let's not replace staples of Windows with their summer projects.

Why not use Paint.NET?

vesuvius said:

Why not use Paint.NET?

Speaking of Paint.NET, why wasn't paint replaced by it?

Paint.NET was started as a replacement for Paint.

wastingtimewithforums said:

vesuvius said:

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Speaking of Paint.NET, why wasn't paint replaced by it?

 

Paint.NET was started as a replacement for Paint.

It was not initially developed at Microsoft and was open source, consequently, an unlikely candidate for addition to Windows (like divx or roxio).

Paint.NET is a full blown image processing application, where paint is far more basic.

Real men use Paint.NET.

wastingtimewithforums said:

vesuvius said:

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Speaking of Paint.NET, why wasn't paint replaced by it?

 

Paint.NET was started as a replacement for Paint.

Because Microsoft doesn't own Paint.NET, despite the creator of Paint.NET (Rick Brewster) being a Microsoft employee. The reason why Rick doesn't want Paint.NET to be part of Windows is that he doesn't want its release schedule to be tied to that of Windows. Would you really want a new version of Paint.NET only when there's a new version of Windows? That's also the reason why Microsoft decided to move Movie Maker and Windows Mail out of Windows and into Windows Live. It allows for faster and more updates.

vesuvius said:

Why not use Paint.NET?

Pain.NET is an OK software, I'm used to Paint Shop Pro though so I prefer it. However, recommending another software is not the same as fixing bugs in an existing one. I'm sure the OP is aware of other paint software. I think those are some serious bugs and should be fixed.

turrican said:

vesuvius said:

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Pain.NET is an OK software, I'm used to Paint Shop Pro though so I prefer it. However, recommending another software is not the same as fixing bugs in an existing one. I'm sure the OP is aware of other paint software. I think those are some serious bugs and should be fixed.

If MS Paint is like Notepad, then Paint.NET is like Wordpad - it's useful for a few simple tasks, but it's not really a complete image editing app - it's missing a number of small but very important features which makes me think that the developer has seen screenshots of Photoshop but has never actually used it. By extension, Paint Shop Pro is trying to be Word, but it's more like Open Office - it's trying so very hard, but it's not the real deal.

Microsoft needs to rethink all of their built in applications. Notepad, Paint, Wordpad ...

Snipping tool was a great addition. It needs some help still, but it is great overall.

intelman said:

Microsoft needs to rethink all of their built in applications. Notepad, Paint, Wordpad ...

 

Snipping tool was a great addition. It needs some help still, but it is great overall.

I would guess Microsoft always intended these to be little helper apps, not full-blown applications to compete with PaintShopPro, Adobe, etc.

But I agree that subsequent releases of these types of apps should include most of the old functionality if possible.

Paint .Net is better off as seperate from MS because they update frequently. And there is once they crapped JPEG save = crash. People would scream if it is MS hehe

Paint is okay for what it is: an ultra stripped-down paint program. Compared to Notepad it's quite full featured. Now awaiting pervasive JPEG XR support.

intelman said:

Microsoft needs to rethink all of their built in applications. Notepad, Paint, Wordpad ...

 

Snipping tool was a great addition. It needs some help still, but it is great overall.

NO, DO NOT TOUCH NOTEPAD. PLEASE!

rhm said:

turrican said:

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If MS Paint is like Notepad, then Paint.NET is like Wordpad - it's useful for a few simple tasks, but it's not really a complete image editing app - it's missing a number of small but very important features which makes me think that the developer has seen screenshots of Photoshop but has never actually used it. By extension, Paint Shop Pro is trying to be Word, but it's more like Open Office - it's trying so very hard, but it's not the real deal.

Hm, yes, I agree. Since the crappy disguting DRM is inside Paint Shop Pro ( gott'a love Corel ) I have tried to get used to Paint.NET but couldn't do it, as you say, I don't think it does a good job. I'm too used to Paint Shop Pro so I'm kind'a stuck with it but yes, none of these will be close to Photo Shop.

Funny thing, I got ( ofcourse ) a legal license but have to crack it to get rid of that weird DRM service running in the background. There is something awfully creepy about being forced to run stuff in the background just to draw some pictures.

The Irony of this DRM is I STILL see cracked Paint Shop Pro in all the "crack" channels so to speak, so this DRM has done nothing but annoyed the heck out of a lot of their customers.

The definition of instanity? Doing same thing over and over again, expecting different results. I wish they would remove the DRM from it because it obviously has not done its job. One has to wonder, what else is this DRM doing which is worth keeping in there? Maybe I'm too paranoid, iunno.

TommyCarlier said:

wastingtimewithforums said:

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Because Microsoft doesn't own Paint.NET, despite the creator of Paint.NET (Rick Brewster) being a Microsoft employee. The reason why Rick doesn't want Paint.NET to be part of Windows is that he doesn't want its release schedule to be tied to that of Windows. Would you really want a new version of Paint.NET only when there's a new version of Windows? That's also the reason why Microsoft decided to move Movie Maker and Windows Mail out of Windows and into Windows Live. It allows for faster and more updates.

I don't see why that's a problem. It doesn't need to be part of windows, just an app that's included with windows. They can still update Paint.NET whenever they want.

I think Paint.NET is a great basic editing program which might be used by a huge number of casual photographers. Just 3-4MB too. Should be put in.

CSMR said:

TommyCarlier said:

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I don't see why that's a problem. It doesn't need to be part of windows, just an app that's included with windows. They can still update Paint.NET whenever they want.

I think Paint.NET is a great basic editing program which might be used by a huge number of casual photographers. Just 3-4MB too. Should be put in.

app bundling = law suits.

turrican said:

intelman said:

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NO, DO NOT TOUCH NOTEPAD. PLEASE!

 

Maybe in addition to Notepad and Wordpad, they could add a programmers pad? I want something simple built into Windows instead of using Notepad ++.

intelman said:

turrican said:

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Maybe in addition to Notepad and Wordpad, they could add a programmers pad? I want something simple built into Windows instead of using Notepad ++.

 

I don't see the point. As a programmer, you would be perfectly capable of downloading, installing and customizing one of the free editors out there. How will bundling a specific editor help anyone? It will only infuriate (n-1)/n part of the programming population, where n is the number of editors out there. That's a large number, trust me.

sushovande said:

intelman said:

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I don't see the point. As a programmer, you would be perfectly capable of downloading, installing and customizing one of the free editors out there. How will bundling a specific editor help anyone? It will only infuriate (n-1)/n part of the programming population, where n is the number of editors out there. That's a large number, trust me.

Because I can use that on lab computers and have a consistant program that I use across all the machines I use. I cannot control what my school decides to put on their computers. Some departments do have good notepad applications, some do not (like the library)...

The idea isn't crazy, it'd just be nice to have something built in.