Office 2010

Just brought a copy of office 2010 is there any real benefit to install 64bit version

• Immunity from Office viruses distributed as 32-bit binaries
• No more "*32" next to the process names in Task Manager
• Ability to open text documents larger than 2GB (you never know)
• e-peeeen
• I guess

None of your 32-bit add-ons will work. However, you can have insanely large Excel workbooks.

In addition to the other arguments for moving to 64-bit, I think most of the point of 64-bit was that they realized that they had to do it, had the resources, and did it. One blog post I read indicated that they felt it was time to do it because the next release would have been behind the curve.

I had it installed during the betas, but realized I had to move back to 32-bit because CRM hasn't released a 64-bit plugin yet.

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Because 64bit is twice as good as the 32bit version.

Hm, joke aside, I wonder if the 64bit will be faster than 32bit. Like, Outlook and such.

I just installed 64bit though, I don't do anything fancy and not have any adds-ons so I thought why stick to 32bit when I am running x64 Windows 7 U.

Word of warning though: currently neither Windows Mobile Device Center nor iTunes can synchronize with 64 bit Outlook.

Sven Groot said:

Word of warning though: currently neither Windows Mobile Device Center nor iTunes can synchronize with 64 bit Outlook.

WMDC is the successor of ActiveSync, which instantiated Outlook COM objects to synchronise. So whilst it would create the 32-bit COM objects in-process it would just access the same data store (be it Exchange or local PST) and if it wasn't locked then it should go through okay.

...unless Outlook uses a different kind of IPC now?

Actually, would this affect me? My PDA is configured to sync directly with Exchange for my PIM (except Notes, which ActiveSync doesn't support).

W3bbo said:

Sven Groot said:

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WMDC is the successor of ActiveSync, which instantiated Outlook COM objects to synchronise. So whilst it would create the 32-bit COM objects in-process it would just access the same data store (be it Exchange or local PST) and if it wasn't locked then it should go through okay.

 

...unless Outlook uses a different kind of IPC now?

 

Actually, would this affect me? My PDA is configured to sync directly with Exchange for my PIM (except Notes, which ActiveSync doesn't support).

I don't know the details. Both WMDC and iTunes complain that there is no default program for e-mail, calendar and contacts installed.

Charles said:

Sven Groot said:

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True. This won't always be the case, however (we'd hope)

 

Run 64 bit if you can and send in the bugs you find! Besides the application boundary issues Sven correctly mentions, you'd be better served taking advantage of the advantages afforded by the 64 bit world.

C

Run 64 bit if you can and send in the bugs you find!

Hasn't Office 2010 already gone RTM? In fact, I thought it was up on MSDN already. Isn't it?

blowdart said:

W3bbo said:

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Immunity from Office viruses distributed as 32-bit binaries

 

32bit installs can still drop 64bit extensions.

I think he's referring to Office exploits distributed in Office documents, which wouldn't work on x64 if written for x86.

And true 64-bit applications are much more difficult to exploit, due to technologies like ASLR in combination with the larger virtual address space.

Excel 64 = finally. Althought that's already done in 2007. Honestly, pre-2007 Excel 65K is simply not enough. Luckily 2007 solved that.

64 Bit applications are compiled using a more efficient version of x86 and thus might run faster....

Ion Todirel said:

ManipUni said:

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Huh, what more efficient version of x86, when was the last time you wrote asm? It's not more efficient at all in a broader sense, actually 64-bit apps can run slower in some instances. In fact there is no such thing as "x64" (generally speaking), it's still x86 with 64-bit extensions.

The x64 instruction set has some differences, particularly if you manipulate 64 bit integers. More importantly, it has also more registers, which can speed some things up.

However, pointers become twice the size and data alignment changes. As a result, your application will use more memory and might also create more cache misses which can slow things down.

Unless you need more than 2GB address space there's no reason to assume 64 bit will be faster, or slower. It's a complex question.

Sven Groot said:

Ion Todirel said:

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The x64 instruction set has some differences, particularly if you manipulate 64 bit integers. More importantly, it has also more registers, which can speed some things up.

 

However, pointers become twice the size and data alignment changes. As a result, your application will use more memory and might also create more cache misses which can slow things down.

 

Unless you need more than 2GB address space there's no reason to assume 64 bit will be faster, or slower. It's a complex question.

Thanks every one I install the 32bit for now because i still need office 2007 as well and you can not install office 2010 64bit while office 2007 is installed.

Also Office 2010 Pro Plus for £47.32 http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Office_2010-software.aspx

mastermine said:

Sven Groot said:

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Thanks every one I install the 32bit for now because i still need office 2007 as well and you can not install office 2010 64bit while office 2007 is installed.

 

Also Office 2010 Pro Plus for £47.32 http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Office_2010-software.aspx

That's why Hyper-V is your friend.

turrican said:

mastermine said:

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That's why Hyper-V is your friend.

Hyper-V is only available on Windows Server and is meant strictly for server virtualisation (as a competitor to Xen or ESX) as a successor to Virtual Server, it isn't meant for consumer or desktop virtualisation, that's what VirtualPC (or preferably: VirtualBox) is for.