WOW,Portable OS Mint 9 Prettily Mmm.look like windows 7

None other than Clement Lefebvre announced a few minutes ago the next major version of the Linux Mint operating system. Dubbed Isadora, Linux Mint 9 is available right now for download (see link at the end of the article), it's distributed for both 32-bit and 64-bit architectures, as a Live CD or a Live DVD (with Oracle's Java 6, VLC media player, OpenOffice.org, F-Spot, Samba, extra wallpapers and the DejaVu fonts).

Linux Mint 9 (Isadora) is based on the newly released Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) operating system, and is powered by the same Linux kernel 2.6.32.11. It now features over 30,000 software packages in the repositories, a new backup/restore tool, improvements to the Mint Menu, Windows installer, new artwork and lots of other nice improvements.

The Linux Mint 9 has a modified installer, to look just like the one in Ubuntu 10.04. It includes a new and very nice feature, one that is still missing from the popular Ubuntu OS, a very helpful and instructive welcome screen. Useful applications and desktop improvements, such as Mozilla Thunderbird 3, Pidgin or the Open in Terminal script for Nautilus are also present in this release!

Linux Mint 9 (Isadora) boots faster, it will be supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server (LTS release), and, last but not least, it includes new and beautiful artwork, with lots of wonderful wallpapers, some nice GNOME themes and the GNOME-Wise icons.

About Linux Mint

Linux Mint is and will always be an elegant, easy-to-use, up-to-date, 100% free and comfortable Linux operating system based on the very popular Ubuntu OS. It offers paid commercial support to companies and individuals. Also, free community support is available from the forums and the IRC channel.

Download Linux Mint 9 right now from Softpedia. It's hot!

Puke!

Wrong forum, there is forum called Sandbox for this.

Looking like Windows 7, mmm... why am I not shocked? It's standard practice of "the other camp" so to speak to copy MS or Apple.

The usual recipe :

• Take a kernel.
• Add theme on it.
• Add uglier fonts.

 ...and "woot", they got a new "OS". It's kind'a like Windows of the twilight zone or something. Where things are similar but at the same time, not so similar, slightly different in an uncomfortable way. Makes you uneasy.

Anyway, honestly, this thread looks like a press release to me.

turrican said:

Looking like Windows 7, mmm... why am I not shocked? It's standard practice of "the other camp" so to speak to copy MS or Apple.

The usual recipe :

• Take a kernel.
• Add theme on it.
• Add uglier fonts.

 ...and "woot", they got a new "OS". It's kind'a like Windows of the twilight zone or something. Where things are similar but at the same time, not so similar, slightly different in an uncomfortable way. Makes you uneasy.

 

Anyway, honestly, this thread looks like a press release to me.

I t is a press release -- Google a paragraph and you'll find it all over the place.

Bit of a pointless post, because it doesn't have any of the poster's own thoughts.

Herbie

Dr Herbie said:

turrican said:

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I t is a press release -- Google a paragraph and you'll find it all over the place.

 

Bit of a pointless post, because it doesn't have any of the poster's own thoughts.

 

Herbie

 

"We believe Linux is the best operating system on the market. There are more than 300 active Linux distributions."

I lol'd when I read this. Best OS...and there's different 300 versions floating around =)

Harlequin said:

Dr Herbie said:

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"We believe Linux is the best operating system on the market. There are more than 300 active Linux distributions."

 

I lol'd when I read this. Best OS...and there's different 300 versions floating around =)

haha, it's probably why it has a 90% marketshare, people can't get enough of it... oh wait...

turrican said:

Harlequin said:

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haha, it's probably why it has a 90% marketshare, people can't get enough of it... oh wait...

That argument is invalid. Marketshare is often decided by "who got there first" and was able to saturate the ecosystem with their standard.

Windows isn't #1 because of any technological superiority.

W3bbo said:

turrican said:

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That argument is invalid. Marketshare is often decided by "who got there first" and was able to saturate the ecosystem with their standard.

 

Windows isn't #1 because of any technological superiority.

You can keep thinking that if you want but part of the reason it is so popular is because it can handle any hardware and software that people throw at it.  That to me is technological superiority. 

What other OS supports the vast amount of hardware and software that Windows does?  You can claim that it is because Windows was first, but actually it wasn't. 

W3bbo said:

turrican said:

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That argument is invalid. Marketshare is often decided by "who got there first" and was able to saturate the ecosystem with their standard.

 

Windows isn't #1 because of any technological superiority.

No it's #1 because it actually works!

It's #1 because Microsoft took the effort and build something that hardware manifacturors can rely on.

And there were plenty of other OS-es around, so windows was not the first,..

So it's Ubuntu with a green theme, and a welcome screen? The later makes sense I guess, seeing as how the only thing alot of people seem to do with Linux is install new distros, and so many reviews of Linux distros mainly cover the installation process.

W3bbo said:

turrican said:

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That argument is invalid. Marketshare is often decided by "who got there first" and was able to saturate the ecosystem with their standard.

 

Windows isn't #1 because of any technological superiority.

If you truely believe what you just said, you need to learn about market dynamics and economics. That's all I can say. What you said is an absolute fallacy and untrue statement. The market forces are much stronger and unpredictable than you think.

Linux Mint is just Ubuntu with some tweaks. Don't see the reason to use it.

PS: Comparisons to Windows 7 would be insulting to some people who think Windows is an inferior (or better?) OS  

Free admission:  I gave up Windows entirely for Linux Mint 6 "Felicia."  Why?  I didn't have ~$100 to upgrade from 2k to XP when Wrath of the Lich King came out.  I currently am using SalixOS 13.0.2a, Mint 8 Fluxbox CE, and the gawdawful hacked up mess I've made of Ubuntu 10.04 (still works great, though!)

"I lol'd when I read this. Best OS...and there's different 300 versions floating around =)" -- Harlequin

Ohmigawd!  You mean, giving people an endless series of choices is WRONG and BAD?  No wonder Chrysler shot to 90% market share by making everything on the K-car platform ... oh, wait.

@Maddus Mattus:  Hardware manufacturers have 2 reasons for not developing drivers for the linux kernel.  First, it won't increase their market share (yet).  Second, it won't be released WITH the kernel unless they also release the source code ... which, as yet, they really don't want to do (for reasons I understand).

regarding reliability and "just works":  Um, seriously?  My roomate has similar  requirements to my own, and uses XP (on a much more powerful machine).  Guess which OS causes the most suffering?  The reason most people don't have trouble configuring Windows is b/c they don't configure Windows -- the manufacturer does.  If my mother had to install from scratch, she'd probably find Mint a heck of a lot less trouble than XP.  And her PC is nowhere near mighty enough to run Vista/7.  But it's plenty good enough for any GNU/Linux distro I know.

Also, guess what OS runs the Hotmail servers?  (Hint:  It's from Berkely, not Redmond.)

@DCMonkey:  the whole point of the GPL is to enable both original and derivative works.  The changes from Ubuntu to Mint may be fairly minor from a development standpoint, but they mean a lot to end users.  

The first reason that reviews tend to cover installation and desktop instead of apps is because these are where tastes vary most and differences are implemented.  The second is because it's absurdly easy to add your favorite IM client, email client, web browser, photo organizer, office suite, and other apps to to well over 90% of installed GNU/Linux systems.

@Turrican:  Windows gained market share because it was good enough, and much less expensive than its competition.  It never had to be better than Mac OS, just had to have a better price/benefit ratio -- which for most it did, and still does.  

Microsoft KEEPS Windows (and Office) market share by implementing policies that make it as difficult as possible to migrate to any other product.  E.g., Microsoft's .doc standard is closed, a trade secret.  The .odf standard is open, and anyone can read it.  In spite of this, OpenOffice has far fewer problems parsing .doc files than MS Office does parsing .odf files.  There are only two possible explanations I can see for this:  Microsoft's Office devs are blithering incompetents, or else Microsoft is deliberately screwing up interoperability (something they have a history of doing).

Zorklat deOrc said:

Free admission:  I gave up Windows entirely for Linux Mint 6 "Felicia."  Why?  I didn't have ~$100 to upgrade from 2k to XP when Wrath of the Lich King came out.  I currently am using SalixOS 13.0.2a, Mint 8 Fluxbox CE, and the gawdawful hacked up mess I've made of Ubuntu 10.04 (still works great, though!)

"I lol'd when I read this. Best OS...and there's different 300 versions floating around =)" -- Harlequin

Ohmigawd!  You mean, giving people an endless series of choices is WRONG and BAD?  No wonder Chrysler shot to 90% market share by making everything on the K-car platform ... oh, wait.

@Maddus Mattus:  Hardware manufacturers have 2 reasons for not developing drivers for the linux kernel.  First, it won't increase their market share (yet).  Second, it won't be released WITH the kernel unless they also release the source code ... which, as yet, they really don't want to do (for reasons I understand).

regarding reliability and "just works":  Um, seriously?  My roomate has similar  requirements to my own, and uses XP (on a much more powerful machine).  Guess which OS causes the most suffering?  The reason most people don't have trouble configuring Windows is b/c they don't configure Windows -- the manufacturer does.  If my mother had to install from scratch, she'd probably find Mint a heck of a lot less trouble than XP.  And her PC is nowhere near mighty enough to run Vista/7.  But it's plenty good enough for any GNU/Linux distro I know.

Also, guess what OS runs the Hotmail servers?  (Hint:  It's from Berkely, not Redmond.)

@DCMonkey:  the whole point of the GPL is to enable both original and derivative works.  The changes from Ubuntu to Mint may be fairly minor from a development standpoint, but they mean a lot to end users.  

The first reason that reviews tend to cover installation and desktop instead of apps is because these are where tastes vary most and differences are implemented.  The second is because it's absurdly easy to add your favorite IM client, email client, web browser, photo organizer, office suite, and other apps to to well over 90% of installed GNU/Linux systems.

@Turrican:  Windows gained market share because it was good enough, and much less expensive than its competition.  It never had to be better than Mac OS, just had to have a better price/benefit ratio -- which for most it did, and still does.  

Microsoft KEEPS Windows (and Office) market share by implementing policies that make it as difficult as possible to migrate to any other product.  E.g., Microsoft's .doc standard is closed, a trade secret.  The .odf standard is open, and anyone can read it.  In spite of this, OpenOffice has far fewer problems parsing .doc files than MS Office does parsing .odf files.  There are only two possible explanations I can see for this:  Microsoft's Office devs are blithering incompetents, or else Microsoft is deliberately screwing up interoperability (something they have a history of doing).

Hotmail is running on Windows Server 2003: http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=hotmail.com

Microsoft's .doc format is not closed anymore.

ZippyV said:

Zorklat deOrc said:

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Hotmail is running on Windows Server 2003: http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=hotmail.com

 

Microsoft's .doc format is not closed anymore.

Wow. 

How'd he manage to get that wrong?

Ray7 said:

ZippyV said:

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Wow. 

 

How'd he manage to get that wrong?

 

Easy to get stuff wrong when your talking points are from 10 year old Slashdot posts.

ZippyV said:

Zorklat deOrc said:

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Hotmail is running on Windows Server 2003: http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=hotmail.com

 

Microsoft's .doc format is not closed anymore.

regarding Hotmail's OS:  fair enough.

Regarding .doc -- ok, fine, it's open -- now.  But that doesn't tell me why Microsoft hasn't come up with code to parse .odf right, when it has been open from the beginning.

To borrow a quote from Turrican:  To condemn without investigating is the height of ignorance!  So, it's time to either investigate Mint, or stop condemning it.

And you wouldn't even have to repartition any hard drives.  You can try the live CD or DVD (and accept the giant performance hit), or use the Windows installer to install it within and as part of your Windows setup.  See http://linuxmint.com/rel_isadora_whatsnew.php#system