Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - The Sasser Worm! http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - The Sasser Worm! http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Tue, 21 May 2013 13:25:06 GMT Tue, 21 May 2013 13:25:06 GMT Rev9 34 -34 -1 Coffeehouse - The Sasser Worm! This may sound strange, but i just love that worm! Makes you think on more advanced ways as to how to stop it from accuring/re-accuring..
  Pushes you past the limits!

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/6064#6064 Sat, 08 May 2004 09:12:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/6064#6064 Stevan Veselinovic 34 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Steve411/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - The Sasser Worm! Wurm von der Wümme

Ein 18-Jähriger aus Norddeutschland soll den Computerschädling” "Sasser" programmiert haben, der weltweit Millionenschäden anrichtete. Tödlich war Sasser nicht für die Computer. Er sorgte aber dafür, dass Programme immer wieder neu starteten und die Rechner so blockierten.

Der Wurm braucht drei Dinge zu leben: ein Programmierer, es zu schaffen, ein *, es zu liefern, und ein Idiot, es zu empfangen.

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eagle wrote:
Wurm von der Wümme

Ein 18-Jähriger aus Norddeutschland soll den Computerschädling” "Sasser" programmiert haben, der weltweit Millionenschäden anrichtete. Tödlich war Sasser nicht für die Computer. Er sorgte aber dafür, dass Programme immer wieder neu starteten und die Rechner so blockierten.

Der Wurm braucht drei Dinge zu leben: ein Programmierer, es zu schaffen, ein *, es zu liefern, und ein Idiot, es zu empfangen.



I knew that was some kind of latin based language, its German, you just said something around the lines of:

A 18-Jaehriger from Northern Germany is the computer parasit ""Sasser" programmed, which arranged world-wide million-damage. Sasser was not deadly for the computers. It ensured however for the fact that programs started again and again again and blocked the computers in such a way.

The worm needs to live three things: a programmer to create it a hybrid, to supply it and an idiot to receive it.

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/52ea1537ddb84faabc0f9dea011961c9#52ea1537ddb84faabc0f9dea011961c9 Sat, 08 May 2004 14:44:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/52ea1537ddb84faabc0f9dea011961c9#52ea1537ddb84faabc0f9dea011961c9 jonathanh 34 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/jonathanh/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - The Sasser Worm! The first time I went to Russia (it was called the USSR then) I quickly realized that English, German, Spanish, French and Italian are essentially the same language. How did you derive "hybrid" from "*"? Folgen Sie den Verbindungen, jenem mehr Spaß, die dann übersetzen, was Selbst ausrufend sein soll.   Dank! 
 

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jonathanh wrote:
More details from the BBC



Rufen Sie Bastarde und Aussehen auf, die erscheint….


Machte’t ich miteinschließe eine Verbindung zum BBC?

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eagle wrote:

The first time I went to Russia (it was called the USSR then) I quickly realized that English, German, Spanish, French and Italian are essentially the same language. How did you derive "hybrid" from "*"? Folgen Sie den Verbindungen, jenem mehr Spaß, die dann übersetzen, was Selbst ausrufend sein soll.   Dank! 
 



Babelfish's poor translation services.

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CNet - The Sasser informant asked for (and will probably get) a $250K reward from Microsoft's $5M reward fund.
Slashdot - German police say they've now arrested the author of Phatbot, almost certainly based on evidence from the Sasser case.

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/Lars.

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It looks like a trail of 1's and 0's lead authorities from one cracker to another till they found the author of Phatbot.

That's the inverse of "Social networking".

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/6ae86e14b2134d6d97b59dea01196391#6ae86e14b2134d6d97b59dea01196391 Sun, 09 May 2004 16:36:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/6ae86e14b2134d6d97b59dea01196391#6ae86e14b2134d6d97b59dea01196391 jonathanh 34 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/jonathanh/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - The Sasser Worm! I wonder what would happen if Microsoft was held accountable for viruses? That $50bn reserve wouldn't last very long.

Viruses are a big problem for non-profits and public funded organisations like the NHS in the UK. The cost of updating those old Windows 95/98 systems and network infrastructure is a big issue - often there is not the time, manpower or the money to do it. At least for businesses the worse case is that they will lose profits thanks to downtime for patching. When it is health related it is far more serious - 100% uptime is needed.

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They MUST upgrade their computing systems, it's a matter of life and death.

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eagle wrote:

What if the NHS was held responsible for disease?



What if a car manufacturer would be held responsible for any bugs in the braking system?


eagle wrote:

not as costly as the "reward" doled out to the informant (rat) who cashed in on his friends.


The best spent money ever. Kudos to Microsoft for helping to put these scumbags away.

/Lars.

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eagle wrote:

What if the NHS was held responsible for disease?

They MUST upgrade their computing systems, it's a matter of life and death.


Diseases are not things that we do not fully understand like we do with computers - computer bugs are easier to fix than human bugs.

I think that the computers should be upgraded, however the issue is how it is to be done. It would take a long time and would really be done department at a time (critical systems would have a backup so you would upgrade them one at a time.

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Computer upgrading migration  resources are well documented.

Updated computing systems with a good firewall will prevent bugs and save lives with better patent care.

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I know updating computer systems is needed, but the price and time/manpower can be prohibitive (money spent on upgrading PII's to P4's just to run XP could be spent somewhere else, especially when all those PII's do is a bit of Word Processing). Also a lot of the viruses are targeted at 2000/XP now, so Windows 98 is actually safer from infection (still insecure though).

It may take yearsjust to upgrade people to XP - and once that happens, Microsoft will want people to upgrade to Longhorn (and people may be forced to eventually when 2000/XP are no longer supported).

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eagle wrote:

What if the NHS was held responsible for disease?

They MUST upgrade their computing systems, it's a matter of life and death.



Firstly diseases are not man made, the NHS is not going around conjuring up cancers for people to die from.

Secondly they can't afford to upgrade, they either upgrade or people die as there isn't enough money for treatment.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/23f20a3c154f476f87759dea01196579#23f20a3c154f476f87759dea01196579 Tue, 11 May 2004 11:44:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/6064-The-Sasser-Worm/23f20a3c154f476f87759dea01196579#23f20a3c154f476f87759dea01196579 Tom Malone 34 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Tom Malone/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - The Sasser Worm! Many diseases have been generated by the miss-deeds of humans, specifically the English and their spread of Small Pox (a disease they got from intimate contact with cows) among the Native American population.  Many believe AIDS came from British dealings with monkeys in Africa.


The British have plenty of money for waging war in Ireland and elsewhere, but they don’t give a toss about the welfare of their own people who have to rely on the antiquated computing systems of the NHS.  

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Smallpox has been eradicated from the world, and if what the americans did to native americans was terrible.

No one knows how or where aids started but it almost certainly started from monkeys in africa.

Waging war in ireland, if you are talking about Northen Ireland then in recent years most of the weaponary and money have come from Irish imigrants in america. The training brittish troops gets in Ireland may have saved lots of lives in Iraq though.

The NHS does rely on anticuated computer systems, it is rumered they could save 3 billion if they switched to linux, and this is being looked at but there is no money.

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lars wrote:

Don't feed the troll.



Your right i'm sorry

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  Also, as far as security, when Microsoft revealed the Windows' source code to Its MVP's, that was a HUGE mistake....

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Charles wrote:
I would argue that a dissenting View should not be so quickly cast to Troll. SBC makes some very good points.


SBC isn't the one trolling in this thread.

/Lars.

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Here inside Microsoft we hold ourselves very accountable when it comes to flaws in our software.

Virus writers are in the business of exploiting flaws in code in an effort to do bad things to people. When they use our code as a vector to do these evil things, then it also hurts us. People who own the application with the flaw work with members of the security team around the clock isolating the hole, designing a solution, building the patch, testing the patch, fixing bugs that may be introduced from the new code, fixing those regressions, testing the fixes. This cycle continues until the patch is deemed ready for prime time and shipped to the world.
 
We are working really, really hard to prevent flawed code from getting into our products. It's a monumental undertaking. We are also working very hard to make patching your systems easier and safer.

Keep the feedback coming and do not be afraid to voice your opinion. Just remember to be respectful and intelligent. Following these two rules alone will allow for some very interesting and enlightening debates.

Keep on posting,

Charles 

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lars wrote:

SBC isn't the one trolling in this thread.


Sorry SBC. I'm no Troll expert...

Charles

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Charles wrote:
lars wrote:
SBC isn't the one trolling in this thread.


Sorry SBC. I'm no Troll expert...

Charles

No problem. Microsoft have got a hard task on their hands, especially because the competion seems to undercut the software in terms of price (thanks to no licence costs and lack of viruses). The products generally are getting a lot more secure and stable. I'm sure a lot more testing is being done on Longhorn than previous versions - plus, you seem to be opening up a lot more and asking for suggestions for product improvements.

We will soon see if XP2 is as good as it should be - hopefully this time next year there will be less vulnerabilities and viruses causing problems.

Linux based systems and Open Source are tough things to compete against. As anyone has access to the code, any company can support and extend it (not via API's like Windows, but access to everything) - for example AFAIK Novell supports RedHat Linux and SuSE, even though they don't make RedHat Linux. The point of Open Source is that you have the choice to have commercial support or not (you could hire someone to support it for you rather than outsourcing). The fact of the matter is - it is here to stay and is not going away as it has gained so much momentum.

Even Microsoft can develop a Linux distribution and support it.

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sbc wrote:
Even Microsoft can develop a Linux distribution and support it.


Very true. And quite often overlooked. Some zealots think that the more successful Linux is, the less successful Microsoft is. They could be in for a surprise. Microsoft have shown time and again that it can switch direction very quickly and with a minimum of vanity. They go where there is good business. And that makes them successful.

/Lars.

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Steve411 wrote:
It would be a good idea for microsoft to change Its windows source code, as in dump the old one and get a new one.... ofcourse would have to write it... but no one would know about it..
  Also, as far as security, when Microsoft revealed the Windows' source code to Its MVP's, that was a HUGE mistake....

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