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Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

scobleizer — Sun, 01 May 2005 17:07:53 GMT

I've been asked to restart "Team 99." What was that? Well, Longhorn got its name from the bar that's between Whistler and Blackcomb up in British Columbia. 99 is the road you drive from my house to get up to the Longhorn bar. So, Team 99 is the team that'll take us to Longhorn's launch.

Now, before today, Team 99 was secret. I've learned from my messups with Jim Allchin's dinner not to do secret stuff anymore. Make everything transparent. Transparency is good.

The problem is, Microsoft can't deal with millions of people all at once. It's impossible to listen to that loud a crowd. So, let's start small. 20 people to start with. Why 20? It's how many can fit into an average conference room at Microsoft.

I want some developers there. Some "super users" like we were talking about last night.

All will need to sign NDAs cause there are things in Longhorn that we don't want to leak out, but they'll be your proxies. They'll tell us where we're screwing up, what we're doing well, and will be world's top authorities on Longhorn.

We're in the early stages (I just got an email from Vic, who is on vacation, telling me to do it).

So, instead of me picking the Team 99 members (cause I'm bad at it and everytime I pick someone I piss off someone who wasn't picked) why don't pick the members?

How would you nominate members? How about leaving me a note over on Channel 9 on the Team 99 thread? Nominate someone you think would be a good proxy for you and who would tell you the truth about what Longhorn is all about. Tell us why they'd be good for us to invite to Team 99.

Some factors? Are they trusted by the community? Are they visible? Do you think they'd give good feedback on your behalf to Microsoft? Some requirements I have? All members must be bloggers.

I don't have a formal process in my head yet, so I'm looking for help on how to pick a great group of people who'll properly represent the community.

Now's your chance to make sure there's good diversity on such group, for instance, instead of just fat white guys like me.

Another requirement? Must be passionate and authoritative about computers.

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Gerg — Sun, 01 May 2005 17:31:08 GMT

I think Chris Pirillo and Paul Thurrott are a good (and probably pretty obvious, heh) starting point.

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mVPstar — Sun, 01 May 2005 17:33:14 GMT

Yeah, Paul's good. He seems to be at a somewhat unbiased level when he reviews software, and he had quite a lot to say in his review of build 5048 from WinHEC.

mVPstar

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W3bbo — Sun, 01 May 2005 17:35:46 GMT

Gerg wrote:

Paul Thurrott

I'd have to disagree there... Paul is clearly biased and seems pathologically immune from making any disparaging or critical comment about Microsoft or any of its products.

Invite some people from the BSD and Apple camps or some trusted Linux User Groups... not any zealots.

After all... BSD is "Linux without the hype"

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PaoloM — Sun, 01 May 2005 17:47:25 GMT

I nominate myself

No, seriously.

Really.

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Brandon Paddock — Sun, 01 May 2005 17:53:40 GMT

I think Chris is a shoe-in for this program, especially since he was in the last one apparently.

I also think who you invite depends somewhat on what you're going to show them:

If you're going to show Tablet stuff, you need Marc Orchant.

If you're going to show Media Center stuff, get Matt Goyer or maybe Chris Lanier.

If you're going to show Longhorn's search/browse/organization functionality you've already got a good list of people interested in that field.

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SanderV — Sun, 01 May 2005 17:54:13 GMT

I'd like to nominate Eric Schoonover. He is a young (22) succesful developer currently working for Avanade.

He has been very busy for the last couple of months and has not been blogging. He is passionate about technology and loves to share his knowledge.

He is very intelligent and will bring fresh/young views to the table. I know that he is ambitious and would love an oppurtunity like this.

His blog: http://capdes.typepad.com/capdes

(He has told me that he will start blogging again during the next two weeks)

Thanks!
Leah

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Cider — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:10:44 GMT

Thurrott's a terrible idea.

Me, obviously!

Others? Steven Bink of Bink.nu and Tom Warren of neowin are my definite choices. Oh, and give Bink his MVP back.

Also:
- Bob Kelly of AppDeploy.com, etc
- Jamie of Channel9 (yay!)
- Chris Pirillo of the blog that looks like its the scrawlings of a serial killer

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BillSaysThis — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:20:53 GMT

Guys like Thurott and Pirillo and the others mentioned already are all good choices but I'd like to see you pick some new voices. The 'usual suspects' will almost certainly all get early access whether they're included in Team99 or not but picking someone like PaoloM or, frankly, myself would be a positive step in developing new voices. I strongly suggest you resist the temptation to pick such well-known individuals. Except maybe Mike Gunderloy, if you'd consider him very prominent.

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W3bbo — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:22:09 GMT

Cider wrote:

- Jamie of Channel9 (yay!)

Nooooo!

If we do that, then IE7 will have "proper" fullscreen!

We cannot let our conspiracy plans fail! We failed on the electric car, we canno fail on fullscreen!

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Rossj — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:24:26 GMT

Beer28. I nominate Beer28. If you can win him over, you can win anyone over.

Although I suspect it is not niners you want us to nominate, it is bloggers who can act as 'non-partisan' evangelists.

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Tyler Brown — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:34:22 GMT

I obviously nomiate myself, as I would like to contribute to the development of Longhorn and provide feedback and anything that I'm presented with! I must say that my vote goes against Paul Thurrott, as I find that his reviews are very biased, and as stated above, he will not voice a strong opinion against something that hasn't been done right, or completely wrong for that matter.

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randomelements — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:35:17 GMT

I'll second the nomination for Marc Orchant.

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TDavid — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:45:20 GMT

would love the opportunity to be involved With This, please put my name in the hate I'm a developer and slogger.

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NetRyder — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:49:35 GMT

Definitely get Chris Pirillo in. I was listening to some of the feedback he was giving Shanen Boettcher at the blogger lunch in Seattle on Tuesday, and he had some solid, concrete ideas for improvement. Plus, he's not hesitant to be critical when it's necessary.

Brandon Paddock also posts lots of good suggestions and feedback on his blog. I think he'd be another great choice, especially in the search and organization space.

Marc Orchant for feedback on pen-based input in Longhorn is pretty much a no-brainer. He really knows his stuff, and his blogs are a joy to read.

I'd love to be there myself. I attended WinHEC and the x64 launch last week, and it was a blast. I do meet the core "requirements" - been a regular blogger for two years, and I've been passionate about computers since the age of 8. =)

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Michael Griffiths — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:50:14 GMT

Chris Pirillo, Paul Thurrott, Steven Blink, Marc Orchant

Those are a good start.

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geekling — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:57:47 GMT

Paul Thurrott and Jamie (our Channel9 Jamie!).

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figuerres — Sun, 01 May 2005 19:06:03 GMT

well any of several of the folks who used to work for TechTV, Leo,Pat,Kevin,Sarah,Yoshi,Cat and the rest.

why them: they are good communicators, love to experiment, are very passionate about tech, work with all the current hardware and software, will give good feedback.

NDA wise that is a touchy one... on the one hand I do see a need to "Keep a lid on" some things for many reasons.... but I also think that MSFT needs to have a clear road-map for the interested folks to keep informed with.

also Carl Frankin -- he is sharp and keeps in touch with a lot of developers.

in the self promotion dept. Me ME ME!!!

I am not a blogger but I do have some *VERY* strong Ideas of what I think is right or wrong....
I'd love th have a chance to kill some bad ideas before they get out and perhaps spark some good ideas.

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LRS — Sun, 01 May 2005 19:19:52 GMT

Petzold!!!

Of course he's probably signed tons of NDAs. Which may be why he's not writing much (blog-wise, at least) these days.

Also, I vote "yes" for Paul Thurrott. He knows enough technically, and articulates the information he has very well, so you can make up your own mind. That spells t-r-u-s-t in my book.

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ZippyV — Sun, 01 May 2005 19:21:00 GMT

Jamie, Mike Dimmick and me.
Remove the requirement to only allow bloggers.

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Gerg — Sun, 01 May 2005 19:27:05 GMT

Having already nominated others, I'll also jump in and volunteer (or self-nominate, whatever you want to call it).

I work for a Microsoft partner in a key area, I make the technology and security decisions at my company and manage the security department there - all activity taking place in the real world; I manage a software product development team that programs in .NET and runs on Windows Server; I have a vested interest in helping to ensure Longhorn meets the needs of end users, programmers, IT pros, and security personnel.

And I'm genuinely interested and curious.

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pikatung — Sun, 01 May 2005 19:46:17 GMT

I have to agree with the crowd, and say Jamie deserves it.

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Sven Groot — Sun, 01 May 2005 19:50:12 GMT

Jamie's would be an interesting perspective to have, most certainly. From a purely selfish point of view he would not be much use, though, as his opinions are often opposit of mine.

I must admit I'm a bit confused about the purpose of this group. What value would they add over a publicly available beta?

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Brandon Paddock — Sun, 01 May 2005 20:05:37 GMT

Sven Groot wrote:

I must admit I'm a bit confused about the purpose of this group. What value would they add over a publicly available beta?

That would be up to the organizers and the Windows Client team.

Having participated in the Search Champs program, I can tell you that there is a lot of value in this kind of endeavor. The key factors in the success of this program will be:

1) No holding back. From either the Windows team presenters, or the guests.

2) Listening. Again, this is important for both sides of the discussion.

Most important, though, is the follow-through. This kind of program must start early in the development cycle, so that the ideas that come from these discussions can be implemented. Given the current Longhorn timeline, this should start moving forward soon.

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pikatung — Sun, 01 May 2005 20:06:27 GMT

W3bbo wrote:

Cider wrote: - Jamie of Channel9 (yay!)

Nooooo!

If we do that, then IE7 will have "proper" fullscreen!

We cannot let our conspiracy plans fail! We failed on the electric car, we canno fail on fullscreen!

FAT32 4eva!!!

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Mhi — Sun, 01 May 2005 20:15:29 GMT

I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott Andre Da Costa
James Proud This guy too
Tom Warren

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Sven Groot — Sun, 01 May 2005 20:27:21 GMT

Beer28 wrote:

Sven, it's obvious that there won't be another "build x" release to developers before the OS release. The people that sign these NDA's will get to see Longhorn in the final stages before release. The final UI, the final this, or that.

I doubt that. Microsoft has already announced a beta 1 and a PDC build. What use would such announcements be if not to release those builds.

I have been part of the technical beta program of Windows 2000, XP, XPSP1, XPSP2, 2003 SP1 and now R2. In all these cases several important milestones were released publicly. There is no reason for me to conclude that a similar program won't exist for Longhorn. Heck, if MS wants to make true on their promises of openness, I would expect more broadly available milestones than on previous betas. Maybe I will be proven wrong, but I hope I won't be. It wouldn't make sense, because MS needs the 100,000+ free testers it gets from those programs to get the diversity in their testing ecosystem they need. There's no way they can test all those configurations with the internal testing program.

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rbushway — Sun, 01 May 2005 20:34:01 GMT

I'd like to nominate WNewquay, a Tablet PC MVP. He runs a great Tablet PC blog and is one of the most prolific posters on TabletPCBuzz.com . He is extremely knowledgable and is a research nut. He has a very strong and positive reputation on TabletPCBuzz.com - the largest online community for Tablet PC users. As far as representing the Tablet PC aspect of Longhorn, I can't think of a better person to serve on that team. http://msmvps.com/wnewquay/

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Aviv Raff — Sun, 01 May 2005 20:41:59 GMT

I would like to nominate Eli Arbel, a great Israeli developer, who won 3rd place at Microsot's “Does Your Code Think In Ink?” contest.

He has a very nice blog, and a lot of passion for exploring Microsoft platforms, especially Longhorn.

He is very ambitious and I know he wouldn't miss an opportunity like this.

-- Aviv.

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androidi — Sun, 01 May 2005 20:42:01 GMT

I nomitate the public Longhorn Product Feedback Center to be the messenger of Superuser/Superdevelopers opinions. Given the "technical nature" that some claim the PFC interface has, that would be the natural way for these user groups to give feedback.

I'd have nominated Donald Trump, John Siracusa and doctor Zoidberg but I have not found their blogs yet if they have one.

PFC has a blog at blogs.msdn.com/productfeedback so its valid and the PFC is certainly has passionate and authoritative users.

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MikeSax — Sun, 01 May 2005 21:23:20 GMT

I'd like to nominate Alan Cooper... he's an original thinker, has no problem speaking out, and he has insight in what Longhorn needs the most: goal-directed interaction design.

In fact, I believe Microsoft should hire Cooper Interaction Design to help design a whole new set of "common controls" and UI guildelines that redefine the way users interact with PCs.

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randyholloway — Sun, 01 May 2005 21:28:37 GMT

I'd like to nominate someone who you might not expect to Team 99- Dennis Kennedy. Dennis is one of the premier legal technology bloggers in the industry, and has a good sense of what technologies will be impactful for real world users. Also, Dennis is a great guy and really "gets" what community is all about. He'll actually make a substantive contribution, not just look out for himself and be out for personal gain.

Dennis is a great writer and communicator, a prolific blogger, and is a leading subject matter expert in his industry on technology solutions for lawyers and legal workers. I can't think of a better person to add some diversity to Team 99.

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eagle — Sun, 01 May 2005 21:57:02 GMT

Two guys I met at WinHEC would do a great job; Steven Bink and Ryan Hoffman. Most of the people in the Pressroom talked very little about computing (except to say were is the Tech guy?).

Steven, Ryan and I had some great talks as we learned at WinHEC and we will continue to learn more as Longhorn takes form.

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Jaz — Sun, 01 May 2005 22:28:37 GMT

right so we have to nominate people who are going to get the build no matter what? If you think people like tom warren and bink aren't going to get the build whether there is a team99 or not then you're seriously doped up. And why does it seem we can only nominate people from the so called "press".

Yes i can see why these peoplewill be nominated first,well lets see. Who gets yahoo 360, wallop, gmail invites first, those that have major blogs and are going to hype it up. So what if Team 99 started with alun smith who has a blog on blogger.com that was first used so that his family in alaska could keep track of what he's doing in singapore?

I agree with a few of the posts here, instead of giving positions in team99 to people who will get all this anyway reguardless of NDA's, give the positions to people like sven and Beer (even if he won't sign an NDA).

I fear this post will go unoticed by scoble and all, i fear that paul thurrot, tom warren and bink will get these team99 positions and this team 99 will be a wasted effort.

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Andre Da Costa — Sun, 01 May 2005 22:51:35 GMT

I nominate:
Leo Laporte - http://www.leoville.com/blogs
Chris Pirillo - http://chris.pirillo.com

I almost forgot:
Michael Jackson: http://www.mjjsource.com

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fergbrain — Sun, 01 May 2005 22:58:12 GMT

As egotistical as it might be, I'd like to nominate myself. I'm currently studying Electrical Engineer and Computer Science, I've used computers since I was four. I have a blog (thus meeting Scoble's criteria) on a server that I run from my house. I currently fit in the superuser category as I push windows XP really hard (as a side note, I usually have to reformat about every 6 months or so because I really screw something up). All my buddies (and parents and relatives) always call me first whenever they need help and many profess that I know too much.

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Minh — Sun, 01 May 2005 23:05:24 GMT

Aahh... I recognize a viral marketing campaign when I see one. NDA Actually, I want to nominate ... nay ... force Tom Miller, in charge of Managed DirectX to attend.

PS. I'd actually like veto power. I'd veto anyone who nominated themselves.

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mikal — Sun, 01 May 2005 23:09:53 GMT

I think it would be nice to include some people from other countries in the group as well. I suspect that Australians for instance have a different perspective on a lot of this, and I don't think our continent has been included in things like search champs.

I also think the person should be someone active in the open source community in Australia -- really you're trying to convince people not to use open source alternatives, so you need to see if that line works with a small group before trying with a larger group.

Entirely by coincidence I meet those requirements, but I suspect I'm not well known enough outside of Australia to be a good choice. Decide for yourself -- you can find me at http://www.stillhq.com

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DylanGreene — Sun, 01 May 2005 23:22:36 GMT

This is easy...

FoO of ForgetFoo.com

His eye for design is like no other. He's honest, blogs often, and is well respected in our community.

- Microsoft calls FoO [forgetfoo.com]
- Yahoo emails FoO [forgetfoo.com]

And if there's room for a usability guy with lots of ideas, I'd love to take part as well.

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Shannon — Sun, 01 May 2005 23:38:22 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

I want some developers there. Some "super users" like we were talking about last night.
... They'll tell us where we're screwing up, what we're doing well...
...would tell you the truth about what Longhorn is all about.

I nominate myself.

I am a blogger, I try to hold truth as the most important factor in all our online conversations, and I have made almost all of my professional development career on Microsoft platforms.

I am a web developer but also a user. I was a freelance contractor, consultant and developer for over 3 years and have seen the pain points for 100-employee business who refuse to upgrade to Windows XP, I have seen medical companies that don't want to upgrade to Office XP. I ran Windows XP on my main systems at home from Windows Beta 1 on up and the first thing I did during the week of the PDC was get Yukon Beta 1 (PDC build) running on Longhorn, for the same reason that people climb Mount Everest.

I am currently working as a developer in the content and media arena, dealing with both desktops and mobile devices.

Because I consider myself a Microsoft-based developer, I feel that the future of Microsoft's success is extremely important to my own future. Helping steer that course early is one of the few things I can really do to help.

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Squagle — Sun, 01 May 2005 23:58:09 GMT

I'd recommend somebody from Anandtech or Ars Technica. They both are definitely for more of the super user but I think they're more willing to give Windows a fair shake than some other sites. For example, in Ars' recent Mac OS X review, it's clear the author is a fan of the operating system and knows it inside and out but he still gives them crap for what they've done wrong, and deservedly so.

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 02 May 2005 00:43:10 GMT

Thanks for nominating me Mhi.

I nominate Mhi.

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Michael Griffiths — Mon, 02 May 2005 00:46:03 GMT

randyholloway wrote:

I'd like to nominate someone who you might not expect to Team 99- Dennis Kennedy. Dennis is one of the premier legal technology bloggers in the industry, and has a good sense of what technologies will be impactful for real world users. Also, Dennis is a great guy and really "gets" what community is all about. He'll actually make a substantive contribution, not just look out for himself and be out for personal gain.

Dennis is a great writer and communicator, a prolific blogger, and is a leading subject matter expert in his industry on technology solutions for lawyers and legal workers. I can't think of a better person to add some diversity to Team 99.

I'll second that... to an extent.

I think Deenis could be very useful, as long as he's "managed" correctly. He'd have a unique perspective, and a less technical one - something that I think is critical in this sense.

I don't think that technical people are those who should be involved in this. While I'm sure developers would be useful, Microsoft has all it really needs - its employees. Rather, I think this should be from a "useability" standpoint. To some extent, that will involve developers, but certainly not exclusively, or even significantly. A dedicated team of opinionated, hypersensitive, pushy bloggers would be best.

On the other hand, people off the street is also not what you'd want. "Experts" in the field - or as close as you can get. People who use as much of thier computer as they can - not people who use it only for word processing, or internet surfing, or email. People who dig inside the system to discover iys features - and weaknesses. People who easily pick up the latest feature, use it to its greatest extent, and scream in frustration at its limitations. People who, when seeing an obstacle, regulation, or rule don't just accept it, but scream "Why does this %#$@&# thing exist?", and try and hack around it.

I don't know how easy it is to locate people that like, and I'm not sure "nominating" people is the best way. On the other hand, it's democratic - and comes with all the (dis)advantages of it. At the very least, anyone who says Microsoft was "arbitrary" in choosing who got this privlige will be contemptuously wrong.

I think Dennis would be a good choice, however, although I don't know how well he fits those requirements. Still, he's bright, and has an interesting perspective. But I think bloggers who routinely post hacks, tips, tricks, workarounds to Windows are the ones who should be attending. Regretfully, I don't read the blogs of anyone who does that.

Oh, and I think jamie would be good because he is so critical of Microsoft's design sense.

Minh wrote:

PS. I'd actually like veto power. I'd veto anyone who nominated themselves.

So would I.

At the very least, anyone who nominates themself is far less desireable than someone nominated. It's not only basic curtousy (i.e. actually doing what Robert asked), it's ignoring a basic fact: to be nominated, you have to impress someone else. Which is far less difficult than impressing yourself.

Besides, it just bugs me.

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DanBartels — Mon, 02 May 2005 00:51:21 GMT

I would love to be involved (I am a developer, and have been patching, and coding sidebar tiles for a year now)... If not part of the team then even on the periphery.. I seem to somehow have gotten myself addicted to longhorn a year ago, and haven't been able to kick the habit. (want proof check out my current blog skin). Anything I can do just say the word.

Dan <= Self(ish) nominated

But in a not so selfish mode, my upstream contact has been Robert McLaws of LonghornBlogs.com there hasn't been much 5048 activity there, but I would have to recommend him as a "community leader"...

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geekling — Mon, 02 May 2005 00:53:00 GMT

The bugger? Stop nominating yourselves, guys. That's totally not cool; its supposed to be people we know and trust, and its hard to trust someone who nominates themself.

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me — Mon, 02 May 2005 00:59:32 GMT

not sure he'd do it - but id nominate Ben Slivka ( of course )

Ben worked on DOS 6.2 -memmaker (stacker oops ha) j++ (write once oops ha) and ie 2/3/4 (hmm)

He was a pre-eminant "ms communist" (according to gates)

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Shmuelpro — Mon, 02 May 2005 01:04:39 GMT

Well I definitely think that Paul Thurrott should be chosen I also think that Thomas Hawk is a good candidate.

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will — Mon, 02 May 2005 01:19:09 GMT

In deciding who I'd like to nominate, I've decided to look locally at the Australian Developer blogosphere.

I think in the superdeveloper/superuser/super blogger category I'd like to nominate Mitch Denny. He's the organiser of the recent CodeCampOZ and blogs (a lot!).

Mitch is also a code contributer to many .NET open source projects. A very active member of the local developer community (I think was one of the original co-founders of my local .NET User Group).

There's others who deserve to be nominated, but I'll nominate just one for now.

There's a lot of people who deserve to be on the team though, so it's never easy to choose.

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jcwelch — Mon, 02 May 2005 01:22:12 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Some factors? Are they trusted by the community? Are they visible? Do you think they'd give good feedback on your behalf to Microsoft? Some requirements I have? All members must be bloggers.

I don't have a formal process in my head yet, so I'm looking for help on how to pick a great group of people who'll properly represent the community.

Now's your chance to make sure there's good diversity on such group, for instance, instead of just fat white guys like me.

Another requirement? Must be passionate and authoritative about computers.

Well, let's see, Thurrot has no credibility outside of the win fandom circles, so anything he says is going to be ignored by a huge number of people, and I can't see him being honestly or usefully critical of MS.

What I don't see is anyone in the IT field. you know, the people that have to support this, and figure out how to integrate it with millions of setups that MS cannot predict. Who will have to make it work with stuff that MS doesn't want to think about.

Someone who will be the voice saying, "Um, yeah, so what about when you have to hook it up to a Linux box, or a Sun box, or an SGI box or a Mac OS X box?"

We support this. We make buying decisions too. We're also damned tired of being ignored for BallmerAllchingGates fantasies of Windows-only worlds. That's not realistic and we have to live in the real world.

So, yeah, I'll piss some people off here, (But that's what IT does *anyway*) and nominate myself. Seriously. I'll send you a resume if you want, I know what I'm doing far more often than not, and I hate all computers equally...(okay, I LOVE AS/400s. They almost dont't suck. But other than that, they all suck, even Macs. The fact that we know what our OS even IS shows how miserable a failure they are.)

Besides, what I DO care about is not having to want to drink myself into a coma to deal with the work i'll have to do to make OS X automounts work with Active Directory, or making Active Directory part of a cross-realm authentication scheme. I DO care about the "secure" settings in IE not forcing me to punch holes in the popup setup so that I can use OWA. I DO care about one day being able to have one set of managment tools for all my windows, linux, and mac boxes. I care DEEPLY about integration being more than crap thrown up by billionaires in Cupertino and Redmond during keynotes.

Because the better that stuff works, the more time I have at home with my son.

Which is something I care more about than anything.

So, if you think the Longhorn team's self - esteem is up for it, I'm in. But I don't drink koolaid, not from Cupertino and not from Redmond, and I don't see the need to put up with crap just because "that's the way we've always done it."

john

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rbushway — Mon, 02 May 2005 02:18:02 GMT

geekling wrote:

The bugger? Stop nominating yourselves, guys. That's totally not cool; its supposed to be people we know and trust, and its hard to trust someone who nominates themself.

Totally agree. Anyone who nominates themself should be disqualified.

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me — Mon, 02 May 2005 02:55:46 GMT

does "20 people fit inside a boardroom" mean the person has to be from seattle?

or is it a virtual team?

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manickernel — Mon, 02 May 2005 02:55:57 GMT

In the 'superuser' category I would nominate someone like Cider, that has to deal with thousands of users and knows the issues involved with educating them and managing how they interface with the 'product'.

It seems this is often left out in Product Development. (Yes, I have heard you do millions of usability studies, and that is how we ended up with Bob, Clippy, and the mongrel)

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wcrocker — Mon, 02 May 2005 02:58:06 GMT

I'd second the nominations of both Marc Orchant and WNewquay. Excellent contributors to the Tablet PC community and great thinkers.

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Zeo — Mon, 02 May 2005 03:13:57 GMT

Hey Scoble. Ian Ceicys here. I'm an MVP so I don't know if I can be part of Team 99, but I've already signed NDAs--so I'm trusted. I've attended nearly all of Thom Robbin's code camps, been invovled with the Imagine Cup twice, and I'm really active in the Boston Usergroups.

You know I'm passionate about Microsoft, but I've also got a level head when thinking about Longhorn because after attending the 03 PDC I too had Longhorn going to my head.

I'm interested because I'm both a power user of windows and more importantly I've actively invovled in development projects with .Net.

Thanks and good luck with the selection process.

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TDavid — Mon, 02 May 2005 03:31:42 GMT

rbushway wrote:

geekling said:
The bugger? Stop nominating yourselves, guys. That's totally not cool; its supposed to be people we know and trust, and its hard to trust someone who nominates themself.

Totally agree. Anyone who nominates themself should be disqualified.

Sheesh guys, loosen up the ties a bit, this isn't high school. Popularity contests, is that what this is about? I would think part of the process is also figuring out who really wants to take part, don't you? Some of the people nominated may not be able to do it. Are you sore because nobody is in your fan club and nominated you or what?

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 03:35:44 GMT

TDavid: I'm cool with people who nominate themselves. After all, if you can't toot your own horn you probably aren't gonna be a good blogger. Heh.

Anyway, great suggestions. Some things.

1) NDAs are gonna be probably pretty minimal and would just require keeping quiet until a specific date. I can't see a situation where it'd be more than a few weeks.

2) Jim Allchin has been emailing us and telling us that the betas will be available very widely. But this team will get early looks at builds.

3) International is DEFINITELY wanted.

Thanks for the interesting ideas, keep them coming!

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fergbrain — Mon, 02 May 2005 03:50:07 GMT

geekling wrote:

The bugger? Stop nominating yourselves, guys. That's totally not cool; its supposed to be people we know and trust, and its hard to trust someone who nominates themself.

I would argue that just because you don't know someone doesn't mean they're not trustworthy. Besides, those who are in the limelight would probably be more likely to be influenced by outside sources.

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richardtallent — Mon, 02 May 2005 05:26:01 GMT

1. I nominate myself.
- blogger...check
- developer...check (full gammut: VBA, .NET, Excel, SQL, Access, ASP, Windows Services, and plenty of non-MS-world stuff in my past)
- UI designer...check
- can sign NDAs (i.e., not press, competitor, etc.)...check
- not an MS yes-man, zealot, or koolaide-drinker...check
- yet, have strong desire to see Longhorn kick Tiger's butt... check
- live far from Silicon Valley's distorted reality... check (Texas)
- have thought pretty deeply about "if I were Microsoft I would have"...check
- know that the stated opinion above + $50 billion might actually mean something...check
- willing to nominate myself...check

2. I like the blogger requirement. NDAs are necessary, but it's also necessary that these participants be connected to *users*, not just their own echo chambers.

3. I nominate Shannon as well.

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richardtallent — Mon, 02 May 2005 05:26:51 GMT

Missed the International thing. In that case, I nominate Roy Oshrove as well.

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Christian Liensberger — Mon, 02 May 2005 06:26:24 GMT

I nominate Jamie and Beer!

Please don't take only devs. Take also some psychologists. They can point out things on the UI, you would never immagine.
Take also some people that work only sparely with computers. They show you also certain problematic aspects. Longhorn should be simple and useful for everybody.

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jldavid — Mon, 02 May 2005 06:27:04 GMT

Hi Robert,

I'll join the pack and nominate myself for Team 99. I'm a Canadian C# MVP who is working on a WinFX book for Wiley Publishing (w/Jim Minatel). Here is the book details on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/076457874X/qid=1115014031/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/102-1007050-7785756

I'm absolutely passionate about Longhorn! I've done a few user group presentations on topics such as XAML. I've recently joined the Indigo Ascend program and I'm moderating a TechEd 2005 BOF on Avalon. Here is a bit of background info: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=7D91419F-A9B1-4ADA-9413-31D137591C35

Good luck with the judging!

Thanks,
Jean-Luc
http://weblogs.asp.net/jld/
http://www.stormpixel.com

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Overdo — Mon, 02 May 2005 07:24:12 GMT

I'd firstly like to nominate myself, I'm a blogger from across the pond who is passionate about technology in general, especially when it concerns the average home user and improving their experiences with technology. I have just started doing some testing with the MSN teams and therefore have no problem with NDA's. I give good feedback about what is being done right and what needs improvement. I even registed just so I could vote! There is more about me on my blog.

I'd secondly like to re-nominate Andre, a student from Jamacia who blogs almost entirely about Longhorn related news from some of the other large press sites. As has been mentioned already by a few posters, readers don't neccesarily want to see the same big names on the team, for example Tom Warren, Paul Thurrot, Steve Bink etc and I for one believe Andre would be a great addition.

Neither of us are "fat white guys" but both of us are passionate about computers and would make a positive contribution to Longhorn's development.

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Tom Servo — Mon, 02 May 2005 11:51:01 GMT

I have a quick grasp on new things and also sufficient technical skills to act like such a "superuser". My english is better than the Internet average, Word can fix the rest. Even though I'm a Windows fan, I'm not biased. If something's crap, I call it crap, whether it's about Windows, Linux, FreeBSD or MacOSX. I like to take things apart using hex editors, debuggers, resource hackers and what's it. I also tend to try to break or change things creatively, giving a lot of insight about how things work.

In short, I'd like to nominate myself.

--ninjaedit: That conference room thing, does that mean meetings in person? And obviously I'm going to start a new blog, i.e. at Blogger.com, instead of using my own pseudo-blog (because I'd like to keep the header, which would be unsuitable for a Team 99).

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 11:57:32 GMT

Tom, yeah, I'd assume that at least one or two meetings would be done at Microsoft. That's really the only way you can get an inside look at what we're doing with Longhorn. Heck, I work there and they still aren't letting me put all the pieces of Longhorn on my machine.

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Chris_S — Mon, 02 May 2005 12:12:37 GMT

What about Joel Spolsky?

He's always got an opinion on what Microsoft is doing...

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androidi — Mon, 02 May 2005 12:13:16 GMT

Michael Griffiths wrote:

I think this should be from a "useability" standpoint. To some extent, that will involve developers, but certainly not exclusively, or even significantly. A dedicated team of opinionated, hypersensitive, pushy bloggers would be best.

I agree with you on this and like reading your and Ian Griffiths' posts. But I haven't seen really that many rants from *Griffiths regarding those areas of usability I am passionate about. But from good technical and developer type of posts standpoint I'd certainly nominate *Griffiths.

What comes to people nominating themselves - I can kind of see why. Many of us are here for the reason of wanting to make future MS products better in their special areas of enthuasism, but may not be bloggers and "free marketing" to MS. More like free rant when it comes to the area they are passionate about. But its hard to know who is passionate and critical about what here (with a few exceptions). So from this pov I have not that much against nominating oneself, provided you tell what are the areas that currently most bother you/you specialize in. But when it comes to people nominating themselves without giving any food for thought regarding why others should nominate them or expect that I have time to go read all their blog entries or posts here etc.. Well I may not have time for that so these people shouldn't expect me to nominate them (I am counting on that I can do more than one nomination).

Personally I do not have a blog, my 'blog entries' are distributed around the MSDN blog comments with various aliases - I have not been able to do much comments regarding OS features as there haven't been that many OS related blogs from Microsoft. But the areas I most care about are probably common to many "lazy developers" who find themselves thinking how to write utilities to do the obvious but missing things in areas like shell, media usability and metadata which is important to you (no predefined fields available). How to abstract the search/indexing and views of your data that resides over different mediums and networks and having easy abstracted access regardless of the container/formats the data is in. I also care about control usability and consistently good experience across different applications. Today you see how much quite basic apps with wildly different ways when doing stuff you take for granted with some MS apps like Word. One of my favorite nags include the mouse panning, it seems to be to much job for MS to have it consistently everywhere. It is in most of the Office apps, IE, Notepad etc, but not in Explorer? I tried to push it for .NET controls but it's postponed. So bet you we will see more inconsistency there. That's really just tip of the iceberg. Other areas I care are the audio/mixing side of Windows and how I've seen the more and less professional audio apps having huge difficulties there when trying to do things MS hadn't really thought of. And it just looks like this isn't improving in LH based on what I've seen so far. (Though we haven't seen that much yet here - could be I am wrong)

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jcwelch — Mon, 02 May 2005 12:18:40 GMT

TDavid wrote:

rbushway said:
[quote user="geekling"]The bugger? Stop nominating yourselves, guys. That's totally not cool; its supposed to be people we know and trust, and its hard to trust someone who nominates themself.

Totally agree. Anyone who nominates themself should be disqualified.

Probably

Some other people in the IT field (Some of whom might even thank me):

Chuck Goolsbee, VP of TechOps at digital.forest, Seattle ISP

Mark Jeffries, Genentech

Julian Koh, Northwestern

Schoun Regan, itinstruction.com

Don't make this into a Dev/Superuser - only party. Unless you work in IT with non-windows platforms and try to integrate them with windows, you'll not have the right experience set and POV to ask the right questions.

You should also have two people, regardless of background, who *hate* windows, yet can occaisionally behave. You'd be surprised at the questions and the angles you miss if everyone in the room is singing the MS version of "kumbaya".

john

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Babscoole — Mon, 02 May 2005 12:44:52 GMT

I would like to throw myself into the mix of possibilities as well.

I am neither a developer nor a member of the press. What I am is a system administrator and independent consultant. One day I may be swapping out a power supply in a PC at a small two person office and the next I may be designing an AD infrastructure for a 500 employee office preparing to upgrade from NT or performing a security audit.

I do work for law offices, medical facilities, a state university, a hotel chain, several restaurants, and really anyone who needs my support. I deal in the actual usage of an OS from SMB to the enterprise.

I would be thrilled to be a part of this team, especially given the importance of the outcome to the Win platform over the next few years.

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sriram_2001 — Mon, 02 May 2005 12:51:27 GMT

Since you guys want an international flavour, I would suggest looking at Anand M (www.dotnetindia.com). He's a respected MVP and a big Longhorn fanatic (even had a Longhorn specific blog back at the PDC).

And it helps that he's a VB MVP too

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androidi — Mon, 02 May 2005 12:52:28 GMT

And as it wrote in my last post - I'd like to see some people who use Windows in professional audio and DJ work to be on the team. I won't nominate myself here as I lack some "deep" in these areas, its more of a when I feel like playing area to me.

But given that I own this product and have followed its forums since beginning I know there's lot of very passionate people when it comes to DJ'ng on laptops.

And so I'd like to get someone from that community on the team. There's probably hundreds of other good candidates too but I have not followed the forums so closely I could go on saying who of the regular users would be a good fit. Anyway when it comes to the top level guys, there are few who certainly have something to contribute in this area to LH.

Dams who has been long in the VDJ management and the VDJ developer Stephane Clavel certainly knows what the OS could do to help DJs and audio software developers! But he's a busy guy so you may have hard time to get him on the team.

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shadow668 — Mon, 02 May 2005 13:20:52 GMT

I nominate myself, I’m a windows developer and user for 15+ yrs.

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gizmo_ — Mon, 02 May 2005 13:28:24 GMT

Id nominate myself as the "Lazy Student" chapter, sure im young. But i get a lot of opinions from the "front line" students using your development environments, home users who dont have a clue etc.

And of course; Enthusiastic avalon and C# developer Been silently tracking longhorn and have 2 blogs, which i just need to kickstart...

Failing that; Thurrot, Beer28 (You know you wanna ) Tom Warren (neowin.net) and Jamie.

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RazorD — Mon, 02 May 2005 13:28:46 GMT

Neowin's Tom Warren gets my vote, years of posting on, in my opinion, the best tech news site on the web.

And he seems to share the majority of ideas i do

-Raz

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AJerman — Mon, 02 May 2005 13:33:08 GMT

Well, I'll go ahead and shoot for this. I'd like to nominate myself as well. Not many of you know me here, Channel 9 is one place that I have always watche but not posted, however, a lot of the names you have mentioned for nominations are friends of mine. I am rather quiet in the community right now. I'm not one to go yelling about what I know and don't know on a bunch of message boards. I am a blogger and a developer as well, in fact, I wrote my own blog in ASP.NET when I was bored. I am currently in college studying ECE with a possible side in CS, so I do have the knowledge needed. While I do love Microsoft and Windows, I am also one of the most critical people of it that you will find. I would love nothing more than to have the chance to have a direct impact on the development of Longhorn myself. So anyway, yeah, I beta test everything I can get my hands on, including tons of MS stuff, so if you want a smaller name in the group as a little more outside unbiased opinion, I'm your man. Thanks.

Oh yeah, and don't let me forget to also nominate Tom Warren. Great guy, and he's also international as you were looking for.

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JKelley — Mon, 02 May 2005 13:37:26 GMT

Someone else mentioned Ian Griffiths, that's a name I would definitely support. Ian came to the company I work for as an instructor with DevelopMentor for a week long training class and he was quite good. He was a very good communicator, very interested in the techy details of things, and also willing to be critical of .NET when something somewhat boneheaded or inefficient was being done.

Also on that theme, Chris Sells would be someone whose opinion I would value, he may already be too much of an insider for this particular task but he would likely be very well respected.

Mining places like DevelopMentor for their top people seems like a good place to start. They have to instruct us all in the end anyway so why not get them to help out early?

-Jeremy

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Cairo — Mon, 02 May 2005 13:37:41 GMT

*raises hand*

Me. I would love to do it. I have used almost every OS made, other than VMS. I currently use the Big Three, all at once, at both home and work.

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Cairo — Mon, 02 May 2005 13:40:23 GMT

Another suggestion: someone from the Ars Technica crowd.

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Tom Servo — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:00:23 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Tom, yeah, I'd assume that at least one or two meetings would be done at Microsoft. That's really the only way you can get an inside look at what we're doing with Longhorn. Heck, I work there and they still aren't letting me put all the pieces of Longhorn on my machine.

Oh. I thought the superuser thing would be along the lines "Here's an .ISO, install it, review it, write up a bunch of articles, send all that stuff in and we say if the stuff's cleared or not for public viewing", with an occasional meeting here and there.

RazorD wrote:

Neowin's Tom Warren gets my vote, years of posting on, in my opinion, the best tech news site on the web.

No offense, but that's an unnecessary suggestion. He gets already the inside scoop from someone in Microsoft.

And regarding the others whining about the self-nominations, they're happening because people don't agree that only some certain people are supposed to be eligible for this.

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MisterDonut — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:02:22 GMT

Beer28 wrote:

scobleizer wrote:
All will need to sign NDAs cause there are things in Longhorn that we don't want to leak out, but they'll be your proxies. They'll tell us where we're screwing up, what we're doing well, and will be world's top authorities on Longhorn.

Sun never made us sign NDA's for project looking glass, only a form that said we couldn't reclaim money from IP we submitted to the project.

Before anybody agrees to this, I'd say consider the symbolic meaning of the NDA, then don't do it. If nobody agrees to NDA's eventually NDA's will disappear. If you are willing to trade that freedom for "new MS stuff", then that's you. You're in for a life of corporate servitude.

Dude, we live in a capitalist sociery..So, of course we're in corporate servitude. I mean, a corporation pays my bills.. Personally, I don't care about NDAs. If a company is funding research, you're darn right I'm going to respect their wishes. If they want to open it up to the masses, more power to them. But they shouldn't be forced to.

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androidi — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:04:21 GMT

Cairo wrote:

Another suggestion: someone from the Ars Technica crowd.

I really liked the Tiger review by John Siracusa. Perhaps he'd have an opinion of what not to copy in Longhorn

For example - MS please do not copy the disabled fullscreen view from Quicktime to WMP

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Shmuelpro — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:13:06 GMT

I propose myself as a candidate because I will make a unique and valuable contribution to the development of Longhorn. As a 17yr old computer software developer, I have a mix of qualities that will well serve the needs of this project. The world of software is my main focus.

My distinctive perspective derives from my background as an American growing up in Israel surrounded by advanced technology both at home (parents in the hardware/software/high tech fields) and in Israel at large where technology is a force of great significance. I attend numerous technology conferences which are prevalent in Israel. I have an extensive knowledge of new and existing technologies from reading a wide range of materials.

While youth may lack experience, it is also uncorrupted by prejudice and pre-conceived opinions allowing the young adult to view and review with an open and free mind. As a teenager I am both the key target market for software and it’s future; I understand the ‘winks’ and ‘nudges’ generation.

I am Interested in contributing to the development of Microsoft’s software and have a blog.

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Tommy4 — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:28:40 GMT

I would love to be included in this team. I have not posted with yall (This can easily be changed) but I do read this all the time. I have a few problems with some of the names you are tossing around; many of them already have a following with a personal agenda and are almost afraid to be too hard about Microsoft issues. I represent more from a corporate type of IT rather then the common home user. If you remember from last years WinHec I was very vocal on the SP2 issues and the lack of corporate involvement. I am not afraid to speak up and let Microsoft know there are issues with the product they have, if they don’t know it is broke then they can’t fix it. Since you do not have a formal process I am not sure what is actually needed from me to truly qualify for this group other then the passion to make Longhorn a great success. Please let me know what is needed from me.

Thomas Smith

Desktop Services Manager

Service Corporation International

Thomas.smith@sci-us.com

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thejo — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:39:51 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

[..]Nominate someone you think would be a good proxy for you and who would tell you the truth about what Longhorn is all about.[..]

I'd like to see Marc Orchant and Ed Bott as part of the team, writing about what they see, within the confines of the NDA of course.

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rethor — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:39:53 GMT

Hi, this is my first post here. I'm a 25 yrs old guy from Madrid (Spain), engineer and developer. I'm not nominating myself but only I want to offer my help in this "secret society" as a spanish-latam communication channel.
I have experience in almost all MS Tech: from Messenger (v7 beta tester) to XP Embedded, from Windows 3 to Longhorn Command Shell (which I am testing too), and I'm very excited with the next release of Windows.
If anyone wants to know more about me or my skill, please, let me know.
KR.

Pedro.

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lynn@soundworks.com — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:50:17 GMT

I'd like to see Carl Franklin on the team.

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 15:06:21 GMT

Mhi wrote:

I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott Andre Da Costa
James Proud This guy too
Tom Warren

Thanks for that Mhi . I would LOVE to be part of this, so of course I will nominate myself but also I think Andre Da Costa would be a great guy to be part of it too. Andre and myself talk a lot and we work well together when it comes to Windows stuff, etc.

I am a regular blogger at my blog www.jamesproud.com, I code quite a bit, I am passionate about tech, so yea, pick me

Gotta say Scoble this Team 99 seems a great idea. Be sure to get a wide range of bloggers and people. Well as much of diversity as you can with 20 people Thanks again Mhi.

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dentaku — Mon, 02 May 2005 15:22:33 GMT

Chris Lanier (http://msmvps.com/chrisl/)
Kevin Rose (http://www.kevinrose.com/)

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lynn@soundworks.com — Mon, 02 May 2005 15:25:39 GMT

Almost forgot, I nth the nomination of Paul Thurrott.

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Manni — Mon, 02 May 2005 15:47:52 GMT

I would like to nominate myself,
I've worked with Windows since Win 286 and I'm currently beta testing R2.

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figuerres — Mon, 02 May 2005 15:53:01 GMT

dentaku wrote:

Chris Lanier (http://msmvps.com/chrisl/)
Kevin Rose (http://www.kevinrose.com/)

Kevin Rose!

Yes, smart guy who knows how to dig in and see how it works, and I think He can tell MSFT whats wrong and whats right with LH

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figuerres — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:00:16 GMT

[quote user="scobleizer"]

I've been asked to restart "Team 99." What was that?
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can't deal with millions of people all at once. It's impossible to listen to that loud a crowd. So, let's start small. 20 people to start with. Why 20? It's how many can fit into an average conference room at Microsoft.
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perhaps it's more like "Team 999,999" everyone of us wants in on this man..... hard as H311 not to ask to be in it .... I think 99% of the folks here are super interested and generaly have things to contribute.

but yes it would be *NUTS*

to try and listen to all of us ...

unless Mr. Bill has that new implant ready for us to all join the collective, you know the ones that also make your skin turn pale and you start saying things about "assimilation is futile"

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brian.shapiro — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:06:52 GMT

I would want to be involved myself, but nobody important knows me, and nobody here on Channel 9 really knows me, and currently I have no blog presence, and I suspect if all this was the opposite, I wouldn't need to nominate myself--so I will stop short of doing so.

So, I'm sure I wouldn't be first on the list for the team, but I thought this would be a good opportunity to introduce my background anyway, and what brought me to Channel 9. I'm sure most participants in Channel 9 have some type of deep interest in software design.

I've been interested in good software design for a long time. I started programming around 6 years old, even if that was in BASIC. When I started with Windows, I was disatisfied with a lot of the smaller programs out there, and started to work on my own. Among other things, I started writing my own IRC client, because I was so disatsified with the other ones around. Coding a dirty client to handle IRC is easy, which is why you see so many around; the hard part is designing the interface and the program so people will want to use it and it will be a pleasure. Today few people use IRC, and I blame this on the clients available, and the lack of updating protocols to respond to good client products. I never got mine out but I had most things I wanted working. I also did many websites, mostly for things I found needed better websites.

Even though computer programming for me was somewhat an interest, I was also interested in writing, ideas, politics, and art. I really was only interested in programming from the standpoint of creating applications that needed to be made so people could use them; otherwise I found programming a menial excercise. When I went to college, I started by taking some computer science courses, among courses in other fields, and there was sort of some expectation, including from my parents, that I would go into computer science because that was more practical than some of my other interests. And I did well in my classes---I was able to ad hoc code for a puzzle solving algorithm in a half hour, while it took others about four days (even though my code was--because it was improvized--monolithic, so my partner rewrote it for me).

But I knew I never wanted this as a career, I was more interested in pursuing more academic subjects. So I changed my focus in college to Philosophy. I also in my free time study art history, and cultural history in general. Off the web, I'm working on a website on cultural history, with scans of paintings, texts of philosophy, poetry, etc. I'm working to link all of this in a much more comprehensive way than Wikipedia, which I think is very limited (especially since there are no editors), and try to present the richness of the entirety of each era in history with some sense how things changed. There is a lot of each era thats left out of text books, because they are such a limited medium, so hopefully this project will offer a broader account of history.

Right now I'm still a student at Berkeley, though for a few years I've been on personal leave, because I started having problems with writing, my thinking becoming more disorganized. Besides working part-time at a job, I've been working at some of my projects. I've also been adding articles to Wikipedia (User:Brianshapiro), have done some preliminary redesign on my IRC client, and have been starting an article on the design of computer interfaces for Marcin Wichary (http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/)

Being interested as I am, in coding and designing only as a means to an end, I've always seen the value of Windows relative to other OSs. If you could say Linux excelled in power and Mac in simplicity, then I think you could say Windows has best reached the happy medium over any other OS by sacrificing in both areas. I think there is naivité in all fan bases. Linux users are often Libertarians, and like Libertarians they have the same idea---a Linux user saying that they will take over the desktop market in 5 years is like a Libertarian saying they will elect a president in 5 years. Mac users have to get past seeing their OS as a fashion symbol, if it ever would become mainstream, if it could, which I doubt because its limited, then it would collapse under criticism (not only for the software but the style). The biggest problem I've feared might be true with Windows is that everything is designed by research papers, committees and focus groups, despite intelligent people working at Microsoft with good ideas, and a lot is done in order to please investors. Of course I don't know the inner workings of Microsoft's teams, which I would hope to watch more closely if I were on an evangelism team and had access to betas.

Well, whatever; that most likely not being the case, I will still be closely watching news on Longhorn and other developments for the time before its released, and working on my other projects, as I have been. I really hope that Longhorn progresses in the right direction.

I don't know who to nominate that hasn't been already listed, except perhaps Marcin Wichary, who I mentioned and posted a link for, who has some good insights in GUI design (some of which I disagree with).

brian.shapiro

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Jazzynupe — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:08:11 GMT

I would love to vote for my self too...

But being realistic... I still vote for me...

But if I HAVE TO pick someone besides myself, I would choose Rory Blyth. I figure he might be busy, but he is a good writer and is realistic.

Also Carl Franklin is good.. (Anyone else see the .NET Rocks! connection here?)

Just some thoughts...

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griffsl600mbusa — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:14:17 GMT

I nominate Jason Griffith from WV. He is works with WV state govt. and would be a great asset to push longhorn in that area. He is a MS beta tester, and is a technologist. His email is jgriffith@ag.state.wv.us

I would also like to nominate michael slaughter an IT systems admin from Federal Health and Human resources.

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Sven Groot — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:17:04 GMT

This thread is turning into a second Roll Call...

I second Rory Blyth and Carl Franklin.

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:20:19 GMT

I think James Proud would also be an excellent choice he has proven so to me by being an advocate for the common user of Windows and will greatly provide the feedback in both areas of technical and novice. I think he has what it takes to highlight the weak points of Windows and provide the feedback that is necessary to make Longhorn a great release and an attractive proposition for existing and new users. For James its not necessarily about problems in Windows, but ways of reflecting the potential that Windows can offer to new markets, demographics and economies of scale. Basically, I think he has the answers to help the Windows Team understand the different segments of the Windows user base.

Check out his blog/website here:
http://wwww.jamesproud.com

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jamesyip — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:21:35 GMT

I would like to nominate for myself.

Reason? I'm a people who focusing on Development Area, mainly .NET of coz, and also the "super user" side. I'm a MCT as well. I always help CTEC in HK to deliver MS development and system admin courses.

I'm also working as a consultant in providing MS technologies consulting services to customer. Also help in architecting MS based project.

I'm working in HK which I think I can help in "promoting" Longhorn in Asia Pac Regions.

Most importantly, I interested in trying all new things from MS. Thus, I always get enrolled to be Beta tester of MS products.

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Jazzynupe — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:28:53 GMT

I too like the Kevin Rose pick... I forgot about the TechTV guys...

They do good work and are honest in mpst reviews. In vact Kevin has a comment on Longhorn on his blog right now...
http://www.kevinrose.com/index.php/weblog/comments/226/

He is a neat guy...

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Peterssitje — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:33:33 GMT

Hello,

I nominate myself too, as a young 16 year old person,
with a very good knowledge of computers and internet.

I already run a small company.
I helped microsoft earlier with msn beta. and with
many suggestions.

I can look to the OS in many ways.

Thanks in advance

Peter van Dam

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:40:18 GMT

Jose Francisco wrote:

Greetings folks,
Firstly, I would like to nominate James Proud, his website http://www.jamesproud.com I've known James for quite some time now and I think he would make a good pick for Team 99! He has a passion for computers and was also one of the lead developers of the "Aero Browser" (sadly the project closed).

Thank you Jose, yes AeroBrowser was fun, I have new concepts and might restart it someday. Also thank you Andre I nominate you also Jose.

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Minh — Mon, 02 May 2005 16:49:57 GMT

To paraphrase LBJ, I shall not seek and will not accept a nomination for membership to Team99.

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Lazycoder2 — Mon, 02 May 2005 17:28:45 GMT

GrouchoMarx wrote:

"I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members."

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Jose Francisco — Mon, 02 May 2005 17:35:07 GMT

Greetings folks,

Firstly, I would like to nominate James Proud, his website http://www.jamesproud.com I've known James for quite some time now and I think he would make a good pick for Team 99! He has a passion for computers and was also one of the lead developers of the "Aero Browser" (sadly the project closed).

Secondly, I would like to nominate myself, Jose Francisco I am a blogger, you can visit my blog here - http://www.xpsource.com I am also a news journalist and hardware/software reviewer over at TechConnect Magazine (http://www.tcmagazine.info). I also use to help and give advice in the Microsoft Windows XP Newsgroups, I am planning to become a Microsoft MVP

I have been into computers since I was six years old. That's when I first started programming, well in BASIC

I also create my own concepts of future Microsoft software. For instance, some would remember the MSN Concepts images which were posted at http://www.mess.be, early September 2004. Unfortunately, I didn't continue creating the MSN Concept.

Just a few weeks ago, I created my first Longhorn Concept video based on Windows Longhorn Diamond Effects. You can find the video on my blog, http://www.xpsource.com

Lastly, I've been into Windows Longhorn for a number of years now, probably three (3) years. The first time I got so interested in Windows Longhorn was when the first video of Windows Blackcomb was leaked onto the internet. After that, I started following Longhorn from the earliest leaked builds.

Anyway, I am also a Microsoft beta tester. Here are a few:
1. Microsoft Office 2003
2. Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
3. Microsoft Windows 2003 R2

Oh, and I am based in Malta (South of Europe)

Enough chit chat! I wish you all the best of luck!

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ZippyV — Mon, 02 May 2005 17:44:13 GMT

Really? Time to close it then!

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The following people are from slashdot:

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enforce1 — Mon, 02 May 2005 17:55:14 GMT

Yes, yes, i'm new, and would like to be nominated. However, i'm not going to say that I'm the best candidate, because thats what everyone else is doing. I'm attempting to be nominated on the grounds that i'm an everyday user. I use windows, linux, and mac on a daily basis, and I'd like to think that i'm a "super user" of any of these operating systems. I've been hopping back and forth for the last few years, trying to decide which was the best OS for "me." I've decided that currently, there is a need for multiple platforms. However tedious and terrible that is. Longhorn seems to combine the things I need. I'm ready to talk up an MS product again. I have been using MS products since 1986, with DOS. I am not a developer. I am on the "fix it" side of things, which I believe gives me a different perspective on issues in dealing with an operating system. That said, Hello! I've been looking for a new forum, and hopefully, this can be it Any questions/comments/concerns, please feel free to email me.

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Manip — Mon, 02 May 2005 17:56:29 GMT

This thread has just been slashdotted.

Just my opinion - This thing is going to result in the wrong type of people being asked their opinions. Instead of selecting the best from the C9 community we will be selecting the most popular (Same as any school popularity contest!).

I just as much as everyone else would love to take part but that isn't why I said the above, it is just that the people that are being nominated are also the most popular posters not those that make the most insightful criticism of Microsoft's products.

Further more, what is with this blatant bias towards bloggers lately? It is a single new form of communication that piggy-backs off of forums and personal home pages, why leave forum users behind who have been communicating over the internet before the first blog appeared?

Bloggers are after all the exception not the rule and by selecting just those that blog you might have well just select those that are already MCP or MVP. It is an insanly biased group which will only reflect those with interests in their area, blogging. If you want to get a real cross section of users then you are going the wrong way about it IMO.

Further more I can't remember *ever* seeing a true power-user blog, not a single one. It mostly seems to be developers that think they are way cool because they can open the MMC and add a conponent...

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Jeremy W — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:08:00 GMT

Meh, I'll jump on the bandwagon and nominate myself. I was going to blog telling others about it, figuring my users would nominate me... But how is that any less pathetic than me nominating myself?

Seriously, I'll echo Richard's statement. I'm passionate about Microsoft, and begging to be given a reason to be excited. And I'm easily excited, so that shouldn't be a big deal.

Also, I'm already on campus 3-5 times in the next few months, so maybe you can wrap the schedule around times that Microsoft's already paying for me to come out to save you money

And, just because I'm nice, I'll cast my vote for a bunch of very cool people, should my self-nom not work any wonders (it didn't for Search Champs, so no biggie):

Marc Orchant
Mike Hillyer (MySQL guy, not easily BS'd)
Kenny Lyon (klyon@tacf.org)... and he's Scottish

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VictorJs — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:12:36 GMT

well...altouhgt I will love to be in the team, i have no previuos record of doing this such things.I been a .Net developer for the last 4 years, since beta stage.I am also a beta tester, one of the 400.000 that are testing VS2005, Yukon and others. I am a tech freak, I love technology i surely loves what MS is doung with this new wave of products.I been testing VS'05 and Avalon and I have to say its amazing what they are doing here.I hope Ms will kick some apple *** with Longhorn.
Well the downside on me is that as a Developer, i amaze my self with thing regular users dont. I love avalon, and how easy is to make beautiful UI, 3d effect in a few minutes, butregular people dont.Its hard to communicate people that are not tech geeks like us why to be excited about LH features. I think i could do a nice job, but i have nothing else that prove that. I am a Value Added services Product Manager in a Mobile Operator,I am a Systems Anakyst and almost and Economist (I drop that major because of my job) I love technology but i dont know how good i am comunicating.
So maybe We could give a task and write a paper and sent it via email.So he can choose the people acording some input he can measure.
By the way I would nominate Tom Warren from Neowin and Paul Thurrot.
VJS

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:16:34 GMT

Wow, who knew this would be Slashdotted?

As to why bloggers only? Read the front page of BusinessWeek last week to see why.

There's a whole raft of reasons to only consider Bloggers. For one, anything they write will get into Pubsub, Feedster, Technorati, and Google. Forum writers don't.

And, also, anything they write will be RSS'd, which will play a role in Longhorn too.

Finally, I want people who are visible to the Web. The best way to do that is through a blog.

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docrst — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:17:04 GMT

I also would like to try on LongHorn, I work as a tech for the Air Force and run a network of my own at home, would like to see if the Air Force would like what the next Gen of windows will bring to the table, also looking at Linux distros.

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Manip — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:19:12 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Wow, who knew this would be Slashdotted?

As to why bloggers only? Read the front page of BusinessWeek last week to see why.

There's a whole raft of reasons to only consider Bloggers. For one, anything they write will get into Pubsub, Feedster, Technorati, and Google. Forum writers don't.

And, also, anything they write will be RSS'd, which will play a role in Longhorn too.

Finally, I want people who are visible to the Web. The best way to do that is through a blog.

I understand that, still isn't fair.

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:19:25 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Wow, who knew this would be Slashdotted?

As to why bloggers only? Read the front page of BusinessWeek last week to see why.

There's a whole raft of reasons to only consider Bloggers. For one, anything they write will get into Pubsub, Feedster, Technorati, and Google. Forum writers don't.

And, also, anything they write will be RSS'd, which will play a role in Longhorn too.

Finally, I want people who are visible to the Web. The best way to do that is through a blog.

I totally agree, I personally get a lot of referrals to my blog from Technorati and blo.gs, those type of sites. Blog in my mind has taken over forums now, information easily available just on one page. So Scoble, who will be picking who gets into this group? And when will we find out?

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Walter — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:22:55 GMT

I would love to be on Team 99. I am currently a Freshman at Penn State University. I spend most of my team head down in our 2003 Domain and am really into enterprise management. I do a lot of stuff with our SMS, and ISA Server. On campus I strongly advocate the use of windows to my fellow students and really enjoy the windows experience.

The biggest thing I will be excited to see in Longhorn is the management tools and control features that will be there. I hope I get the chance to see it before it comes out. I believe that being in this University Setting, I will be in a great position to spread information to my peers.

I spend a lot of my time on channel 9 watching all the videos I can. I love this community and am very excited about all the new technology.

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BinaryCrusader — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:24:16 GMT

I would say one of the ARS Technica (http://www.arstechnica.com/) people, perhaps specifically "John Siracusa". ARS Technica is a very trustworthy source in my opinion, their extremely detailed and in-depth analys and reviews of hardware and software speak volumes to me.

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Jaz — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:28:09 GMT

manip, do i take it you agree with my opinion

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:29:28 GMT

Manip: it takes two minutes to start a blog. Geesh. Get one and join the party.

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Manip — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:39:04 GMT

Jaz wrote:

manip, do i take it you agree with my opinion

Yes I do. But you are missing the point, these people don't *just* get the new build they also get to give feedback on it... I don't give a darn about getting the build (no doubt I will download anyway ) I just want to be able to tell Microsoft what I think and have them listen.

scobleizer wrote:

Manip: it takes two minutes to start a blog. Geesh. Get one and join the party.

Yeah! Then I can start copying and pasting articles from MSDN and get an MVP as well! What am I waiting for!

The only reason I could ever want a blog is this topic.

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:39:20 GMT

Manip wrote:

Yes I do. But you are missing the point, these people don't *just* get the new build they also get to give feedback on it... I don't give a darn about getting the build (no doubt I will download anyway ) I just want to be able to tell Microsoft what I think and have them listen.

Manip, if you want to tell Microsoft, they will listen. Make a thread here in Channel9, MS guys are here all the time, they do listen. And this Team 99 is going to be picking the top PC Users who blog a lot, and using them as a way to access the community even more. Scoble, come on MSN lol

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Rossj — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:43:40 GMT

JamesProud wrote:

Manip, if you want to tell Microsoft, they will listen. Make a thread here in Channel9, MS guys are here all the time, they do listen.

Hahaha. You don't spend a lot of time around here do you? There are like 5 or 6 regular visitors here from Microsoft, and as much as we appreciate their feedback and/or interest it is fairly clear that very little we say goes further than 'those guys don't like X, never mind'.

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:46:55 GMT

Rossj wrote:

Hahaha. You don't spend a lot of time around here do you? There are like 5 or 6 regular visitors here from Microsoft, and as much as we appreciate their feedback and/or interest it is fairly clear that very little we say goes further than 'those guys don't like X, never mind'.

What a negative view you have then. I am round here quite a lot and I have found that Microsoft guys will listen to what people say. I am quite shocked at the amount of negative response this Team 99 has come from. We'll just have to see, If I was you, just _try_ to post here and see if MS guys respond. Worth a shot Or, email either mswish@microsoft.com or wish@microsoft.com, one of the two is to submit your ideas for products, if I remember correctly

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Manip — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:47:41 GMT

When was the last time someone from the Windows Platform team posted? The server team? The team responsible for creating the default shell (insert name here)? etc

The only team that does post here is the internet explorer team...

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androidi — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:49:57 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Wow, who knew this would be Slashdotted?

As to why bloggers only? Read the front page of BusinessWeek last week to see why.

There's a whole raft of reasons to only consider Bloggers. For one, anything they write will get into Pubsub, Feedster, Technorati, and Google. Forum writers don't.

And, also, anything they write will be RSS'd, which will play a role in Longhorn too.

Finally, I want people who are visible to the Web. The best way to do that is through a blog.

I think you just only confirmed what I read from Slashdot

Microsoft is looking at a new marketing tool to help promote its new Windows: bloggers

Of course I was to naïve to first think MS was more interested to get people from different areas of interest and specialty to give MS frontline feedback about the new features. But you just confirmed that this is 99% about marketing. Invite bunch of bloggers and Wow them and cause they are the special bunch they'll of course try Wow others in their blogs.

Edit: In the end I think its getting a bit late for any other than cosmetic feedback. Otherwise LH won't ship in time. So given that you are looking for Marketing - what does it have to do with "super"user/developers.. They are best marketers ? blogs.msdn seems a success (more signal to noise would be cool though) - this is just continuation to that presumably.

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Rossj — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:56:50 GMT

JamesProud wrote:

What a negative view you have then. I am round here quite a lot and I have found that Microsoft guys will listen to what people say.

James, I post here most days, and have done for about .. what? 6 months? I'd be interested to see if *anything anyone* has suggested/asked for here has been followed up?

I understand why most 'softies won't come here (apart from hopefully being too busy on Longhorn), sticking their heads over the parapet is likely to be followed by a cry of "there's one, gettim" or at least the forum based equivalent.

I am sorry if you think I am being negative, I've tried my best as an OSX/XP user/developer to be positive, but at some point you just have to realise - C9 is a one way conversation.

Of course, I haven't totally written off the possibility I might just be a dumbass and not making sensible suggestions..

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 18:59:10 GMT

As to how I'm going to pick Team 99? I don't know. I'm having a lot of fun seeing these nominees.

Some principles:

1) I'm going to try to get as diverse an audience as possible. There's several reasons to do that, but I want as many different points of view on this team as absolutely possible.

2) I won't just go for popularity. See #1.

3) I will go heavy on "super users" and "super developers." My mom, for instance, need not apply. She's a great person, but she only uses her computer an hour or so a day (if that). That said, I will refer to rule #1.

4) I will go heavy on people who communicate well. That's why this is for bloggers only, so I can look at your body of work and see how well you communicate with others.

But, I'm looking for ideas. How should we pick the members?

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ron_ivi — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:01:06 GMT

Now, before today, Team 99 was secret. I've learned from my messups with Jim Allchin's dinner not to do secret stuff anymore. Make everything transparent. Transparency is good. [...]All will need to sign NDAs cause there are things in Longhorn that we don't want to leak out, but they'll be your proxies.

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read.

You won't do secret stuff anymore, but you'll legally obligate your volunteer marketing reps to keep your problems secret!!!! WOW!

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jlromero — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:01:15 GMT

Please, consider my name. I will be pleased to be closer to the process of evangelization of the product. I am located in Mexico City and have contacts and influece in technological circles. Mi blog is located at: http://www.romerocamarena.com

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:01:44 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

As to how I'm going to pick Team 99? I don't know. I'm having a lot of fun seeing these nominees.

Some principles:

1) I'm going to try to get as diverse an audience as possible. There's several reasons to do that, but I want as many different points of view on this team as absolutely possible.

2) I won't just go for popularity. See #1.

3) I will go heavy on "super users" and "super developers." My mom, for instance, need not apply. She's a great person, but she only uses her computer an hour or so a day (if that). That said, I will refer to rule #1.

4) I will go heavy on people who communicate well. That's why this is for bloggers only, so I can look at your body of work and see how well you communicate with others.

But, I'm looking for ideas. How should we pick the members?

Sounds great, I think to pick people. You should look at the blogs, etc of those who have been nominated. See what they are like, their sites, etc. Narrow it down and contact the people involved. Have a mini-over the web interivew perhaps, find out if they are the material you want, and / also get them to do a presentation? Something like that. Scoble, come on MSN lol

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Cairo — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:05:18 GMT

lynn@soundworks.com wrote:

I'd like to see Carl Franklin on the team.

I'd like to see Al Franken.

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thewarlock — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:05:44 GMT

I personally would like to be involved. I know the chances are slim to none for me to actually be selected, but it's worth a try.

I have a blog that is holds it's own in the modblog community, and I am also a member of a few tech related blog groups that have potential of becoming rather big. I have been working with computers since I was at least three years old, I do believe the first computer I touched was a packard bell running Windows 3.1.

I am known as a computer/tech guru among friends and family, and maintain good knowledge of what users look for in an interface. I currently run Linux and Windows XP Professional on my laptop. Currently I am working as a freelance web developer.

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Tommy4 — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:07:06 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Wow, who knew this would be Slashdotted?

As to why bloggers only? Read the front page of BusinessWeek last week to see why.

There's a whole raft of reasons to only consider Bloggers. For one, anything they write will get into Pubsub, Feedster, Technorati, and Google. Forum writers don't.

And, also, anything they write will be RSS'd, which will play a role in Longhorn too.

Finally, I want people who are visible to the Web. The best way to do that is through a blog.

If you are only trying to get a blogger because he gets published then maybe most of us are the wrong people. Get some one like Joris Evers from IDG. I believe it is wrong to only look for some one that gets in a magazine or in a tech feeder, I have been in many of the main IT magazines but dont blogg. Please consider others that may be able to give a different aspect other then glamor. Some of the real users that work in a large enviroment like mine can give a good true life picture.

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Nathan Weinberg — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:07:45 GMT

Not that I want to be a person who needs to nominate themselves, but there is a huge part of me that wants to be involved in Longhorn. More so than most not already at Microsoft, I very much would like to see Longhorn be a success and the great product it deserves to be after all this waiting. While not a developer, I could bring a media- and marketing-savvy perspective to the group, while still not being the pervasive negative influence most media and marketing people have become. And, of course, I'm never afraid to speak my mind.

And I'm sure my readers at InsideMicrosoft would love to see some in-depth Longhorn reports...

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:08:10 GMT

ron_ivi: you misunderstand the purpose of an NDA, in this context. It's to make sure things are disclosed on a timeschedule. There's a whole raft of legal issues involved here. It's why we don't just post screen captures of the latest builds.

It has nothing to do with keeping our problems secret.

Oh, and on this group we'll have some people who aren't friendly to Microsoft. How about that? What, does getting invited into see our products automatically turn folks into our marketing agents? Heh.

So, if I invited you you'd instantly turn from being a Slashdot anti-Microsofter to a Microsoft adherent?

Damn, if it were that easy we should just invite all Slashdot members to campus.

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Rossj — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:09:51 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Oh, and on this group we'll have some people who aren't friendly to Microsoft. How about that? What, does getting invited into see our products automatically turn folks into our marketing agents? Heh.

Beer, quick start a blog !

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eminem213486 — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:09:56 GMT

i only ask that the longhorn team brings back the sidebar, it was a very usefull feature and sort of a different way of displaying information or widgets on screen, it was autohideable anyways, and the multiple desktops feature is much needed in a power user windows environment. after all, is that not why these widescreen laptops and screens came out for anyway? to take advantage of the extra space put a sidebar there, its how i do my laptop, nothing is fullscreen just stays at a 1024x768 window and the rest is for my IM client and desktop widgets. (imagine weather on the sidebar with a rss feed scrolling by and wifi signal strength meter there. presentable information for the power user at hand.

i also have a blog but i know you guys wouldnt consider me being a team 99 member. yes it would be cool but i just dont see it happening. i only hope the team has some awesome ideas and features planned for discussion.

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:10:11 GMT

Tommy4: Joris already gets to see Longhorn due to his press credentials. That's one of the reasons why this program is for bloggers only.

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:12:33 GMT

RossJ: I think most Microsofties don't come here cause most MSFTies are specialists and the conversation here is very broad. It's a problem that I don't know how to solve.

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mbiven — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:15:02 GMT

I would like to throw my name into the hat. I currently work as a Network / Systems Admin and would consider myself ta have a pretty unbiased opinion of different operating systems and approaches. Currently I admin over 30 linux, 7 Sun and 7 Windows servers that are used as web (apache, apache2 and IIS), database, (MySQL and MS SQL) and cluster (LVS) servers.

My small presence is at http://sweb.uky.edu/~mbive2, I'm in the process of moving my blog off the student server to elsewhere.

Michael B.

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:16:01 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

RossJ: I think most Microsofties don't come here cause most MSFTies are specialists and the conversation here is very broad. It's a problem that I don't know how to solve.

Robert: Perhaps a way to get other Microsofties here, could Channel9 hold chats like TechNet? Get developers over here? I personally think bloggers are a good group to target this at. Keep us up-to-date. Will the Team 99 only be able to be US guys or will it be open worldwide?

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christoc — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:17:09 GMT

I'd like to nominate myself! I'm very vocal and active in the DotNetNuke and CommunityServer communities, as well as a race car driver. If picked, I'll blog about Longhorn, and even decorate my car in longhorn graphics for the SCCA Solo II Nationals in Topeka Kansas in September this year!

Check out one of my many blogs

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orenweiss — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:17:25 GMT

I want to nominate Steven Bink. His blog is extremely insightful and constantly updated.

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:19:34 GMT

James: Team 99 is worldwide.

Chats are a good idea, but the videos sorta work that way too. I notice they often drag into Channel 9 the folks who were interviewed.

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JamesProud — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:21:59 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

James: Team 99 is worldwide.

Chats are a good idea, but the videos sorta work that way too. I notice they often drag into Channel 9 the folks who were interviewed.

Yea quite true. Perhaps try the chat idea one day maybe, see if it works. Worldwide, that sounds great. If I remember, I think you said something about coming to Microsoft to see the Longhorn stuff? Or did I misread it, how would that work for us non-US guys? Would we travel to Redmond or have I read something wrong

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Tommy4 — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:23:33 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Tommy4: Joris already gets to see Longhorn due to his press credentials. That's one of the reasons why this program is for bloggers only.

Everyone here that is trying to be part of this group should also see Longhorn leagly. I was under the impression that this was to help make Longhorn better. More of a higher level of beta testers. I hope you do include othersand me that dont blogg. To count me out due to me running an IT organazation is not what I consider fair. Before you say I dont have time that is not true I have entire teams that are able to test and make this better from a Corporate side. I have been in the IT field for longer then many of these bloggers have been alive and do not want another failure with this OS. I am here to help and are willing to get others on board to help. Please contact me if needed to discuss this more.

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androidi — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:23:42 GMT

One of MS's best non-marketing marketing blogs - Course now Matt will be pissed that the rabbit has jumped out of the hat regarding his comeback and intentions of telling what Longhorn is really about. Sorry Matt!

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aliethel — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:24:22 GMT

I would like to nominate Paul Robichaux.

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Rossj — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:24:42 GMT

scobleizer wrote:RossJ: I think most Microsofties don't come here cause most MSFTies are specialists and the conversation here is very broad. It's a problem that I don't know how to solve.

Not so sure, I bet a lot of them are worried about sounding too authorative, heaven knows your comments are sometimes taken as Microsoft policy

And whilst everyone is busy nominating people, I'd like to second John Welch's self-nomination If you don't have some of us mac users on your team you'll get terrible results*

* This is a joke - the mac bit, not the JCW bit. Don't flame me.

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JasonC0 — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:34:39 GMT

How about we stop nominating the same select group of people (I'm referring to Thurrott and others like him) and nominate an average user. After all, its not just them who are going to be using Windows. Get some feedback from some average people. For example, use a few people who use Windows for business. Use a few home users who do simpler tasks such as web browsing and e-mail. Use a few power users who do know the ins and outs of computers. Use a few people who use Windows for mainy entertainment (Media Center, music, gaming). Use a few people who use Windows at school. By selecting the same people over and over again you leave out what the NORMAL person wants. I despise this way of doing it. You need to have a variety of people. Also, what in the world does having a blog have to do with this? Why can't people share information in their own way?

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:40:09 GMT

>Also, what in the world does having a blog have to do with this? Why can't people share information in their own way?

This is a blogger group. There are other groups for other types of people.

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Irakli_Lomidze — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:47:21 GMT

I nominate myself.

I'm a Software Developer.I Have 14 Year Exprerience in Programming under DOS/Windows and
8 Year Experience in developing Security and Cryptography applications.
I have developed Desktop,C/S,web(intranet) Applications (With a Rich User Interface)

At this time I'm working as a developer in a software company, I'm making Desktop,C/S,Enteprise applications based on .NET.

I'm interested in Longhorn bacause, I want to be ready for fast migrating my existing application on
Longhorn as soon as it releases. Beside, I want to add new features brought by Longhorn in my Applications.

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Manip — Mon, 02 May 2005 19:52:49 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

>Also, what in the world does having a blog have to do with this? Why can't people share information in their own way?

This is a blogger group. There are other groups for other types of people.

Links?

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:06:53 GMT

MVPs. Several thousand members.
INETA. 773 user groups.
Press. Hundreds.

And there are others too.

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Lazycoder2 — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:08:24 GMT

Manip wrote:

scobleizer wrote:>Also, what in the world does having a blog have to do with this? Why can't people share information in their own way?

This is a blogger group. There are other groups for other types of people.

Links?

Here

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ManagedCode — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:17:46 GMT

With all due respect to some of the people tossed around here, I was actually a member of the original Team99 and have a huge amount of traction in the Microsoft developer community already with my blog. Indeed, this is why Don and other Indigo folks included me in all the Indigo SDRs the last year or so. So at the risk of being obvious, I am nominating myself as I am also an INETA Speaker, a Microsoft MVP and an INETA UG Leader as well as International Speaker.

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CPNABEND — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:19:54 GMT

I would like to join. I am running a LAN in the house that has WINXP SP2 (Athlon XP 3000+, 1GB DDR333, 200GB Disk, lots of printers, USB devices, scanners, media readers, etc.). Also on the LAN is a SuSe 9.1 PRO implementation on an Athlon 2000+, a WIN98SE box, and a wireless MIN ME cliient.

I think I could help you with this code! Let me know what I have to sign!

jgivens@columbus.rr.com

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mywinfx — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:26:13 GMT

I nominate myself. I think I might be able to contribute from international and educational perspective. My blog and profile is at:
http://mywinfx.blogspot.com

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:28:50 GMT

Ok, if any of you get to become a part of this Team, try and deal with some of issues facing Windows today.

Try and think beyond the average user base, think about Windows world wide. I am from a third world country where its still difficult to buy a PC because of cost. Try to think about how Windows can better conform to the needs of these economies or how Microsoft can better meet the needs of users in these countries through programs such as Starter Edition.

Sore Points: Piracy
How can Microsoft limit this issue which is very rampant in third world countries and even at home in USA where Windows is developed. What can Microsoft do to ensure that their software is better protected? I say businesses need to start activating their volume license Windows according to quota.

Getting existing Windows users to upgrade.
Why are schools still using Windows 98 and Office 97/2000?
Why are some businesses just rolling out Windows 2000?
Why are businesses still loving NT on the Server?

And many, many more questions.

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androidi — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:29:49 GMT

Scoble you certainly found a way to get a lot of new people registering here

Given that you are looking for bloggers and not Channel 9 people, blogs.msdn.com / blogs.technet.com might have been more appropriate place for this though. Or even your own blog.

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Diego Vega — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:31:51 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

Ok, if any of you get to become a part of this Team, try and deal with some of issues facing Windows today.

Try and think beyond the average user base, think about Windows world wide. I am from a third world country where its still difficult to buy a PC because of cost. Try to think about how Windows can better conform to the needs of these economies or how Microsoft can better meet the needs of users in these countries through programs such as Starter Edition.

I second this!

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:34:26 GMT

Androidi: well, Channel 9 is a better place to discuss this kind of stuff. The forums here are far better for in-depth discussions than blog discussions are.

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:34:56 GMT

ManagedCode wrote:

With all due respect to some of the people tossed around here, I was actually a member of the original Team99 and have a huge amount of traction in the Microsoft developer community already with my blog. Indeed, this is why Don and other Indigo folks included me in all the Indigo SDRs the last year or so. So at the risk of being obvious, I am nominating myself as I am also an INETA Speaker, a Microsoft MVP and an INETA UG Leader as well as International Speaker.

Just looked at your body of work, you definitely should be on that team. I nominate you!

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:35:06 GMT

Diego: yup, and on the other side of the fence, Paul Mooney just reminded me not to forget 64-bit enthusiasts too.

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ManagedCode — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:42:52 GMT

Why, thank you!

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AlanNYC — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:46:09 GMT

I would like to be involved. I have clients all over the New York Metro area that use Windows OS.

Alan

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:48:39 GMT

I thought Bill Gates favorite words and pharases were "to the max", "thats the stupidest think I ever heard" and "super".

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fdezjose — Mon, 02 May 2005 20:58:48 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

I thought Bill Gates favorite words and pharases were "to the max", "thats the stupidest think I ever heard" and "super".

Yeah, and developers, developers, developers... no wait... that's the other one, Steve Balmer.

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mbazzoni — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:13:32 GMT

I would nominate my friend Jim Doyle. He has a great website: www.webfellows.com and some good blogs. He is a really good technical resource and has recently been working on the security aspects of Windows XP.

I would also nominate myself. I have worked in the web dev community for 10 years and have BETA tested Win 95 and XP in the past. I am very passionate about new technologies.

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crippledlemming — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:18:59 GMT

I would nominate my self, I represent the 64 bit overclocking/gaming community. I have seen a push towards Linux from those I associate with. In my readings of Longhorn it is very interesting to see its Linux-like properties. It would be nice to see Longhorn's gaming qualities and power.

--lemming

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jeanharp — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:19:40 GMT

Can I nominate myself? If so, please consider me

jeanette harper

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:23:12 GMT

No, you don't need to be a developer. Chris Pirillo, for instance, isn't a developer.

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:24:05 GMT

Jeanette: yes, you can nominate yourself, but it might help if you told us why you should be considered.

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ZippyV — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:25:12 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

4) I will go heavy on people who communicate well. That's why this is for bloggers only, so I can look at your body of work and see how well you communicate with others.

If this is only for bloggers then go tell it on your blog and leave the Channel 9 community out of it.

You want to see how well people communicate? Look at the C9 forums! We got a graphics artist, students interested in Microsoft technologies, some Apple geeks, a Linux-only fanatic, someone known as 'the reference', guys from India with crazy ideas and a couple of others. Bloggers aren't the only ones who are able to communicate.

What was Lenn's idea again? To show the people how Microsoft works at the inside. Now that the opportunity is here you turn your back to the Channel 9 community and go for bloggers.

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Fernik — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:31:46 GMT

Robert, I woudl like to be considered for the Team99 as a superdeveloper, here is a description of my background:

I have been a Microsoft betatester of Visual Studio .net and .net framework since they were called next generation windows services.
I lead a local user group called .NetSchema(dotnetschema), listed at http://www.microsoft.com/mindshare.
I have my blog at http://spaces.msn.com/members/fernik where I speak about Visual Studio 2005 and WinFx development.
I have presented the WinFx and .net framework 2.0 in my local city in a conference we arranged with the Microsoft User Group of Argentina.

I you need to contact me you can reach me at fhualpa@REMOVECAPSmsn.com.

Fernik (also known as Diwik)

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scobleizer — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:33:17 GMT

ZippyV: most of the people on Channel 9 also have blogs.

And, how do you know that Channel 9 isn't a blog? Ever look at your profile page here? It looks a lot like a blog to me.

That said, having a real blog does help things out quite a bit.

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Manip — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:45:59 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

ZippyV: most of the people on Channel 9 also have blogs.

And, how do you know that Channel 9 isn't a blog? Ever look at your profile page here? It looks a lot like a blog to me.

That said, having a real blog does help things out quite a bit.

A blog is a page in which a single user (or 'blogger') discusses stuff which interests them.

A *forum* is a site which in which users discuss things that interest them with other users.

The difference being that a blogger talks down to people, in a forum everyone is on equal footing. And before you reply that - "What about blogging software's reply function?" - you should note that it is walking on a forums feet because forums have been around years before people starting to get trendy and invent new words.

PS - I take personal offence with how you bloggers seem to want to make everything a blog, most of which pre-dates the word and or concept of what a "blog" is.

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androidi — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:47:03 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

ZippyV: most of the people on Channel 9 also have blogs.

And, how do you know that Channel 9 isn't a blog? Ever look at your profile page here? It looks a lot like a blog to me.

That said, having a real blog does help things out quite a bit.

Indeed. The current default view is some sort of "Blog entries from all members descending by last comment"

One could say that http://channel9.msdn.com/rss.aspx?userid=10 is your Channel 9 "blog" and the Coffeehouse is more of a main aggregate of everyones entries just like blogs.msdn.com is.

The difference is that some blog specific features are missing and we have some forum type features here.

I guess one could go on saying that what you want from Channel 9 is a way to make posts from Word or whatever.. Maybe its possible? I haven't tried

Edit: Like I've said before - It'd rock if every forum etc had a common API/service to posts messages from editor/SmartClient or something.

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El Bruno — Mon, 02 May 2005 21:51:35 GMT

How about myself ?
I've developing with Microsoft Technologyes for more than 6 years (I'm 29) ... I originally live and work in Argentina, but after a lot of work/travels around the world, I decided to move to Spain to be near the "first world". I'm a Technology fan, now I'm working in Avanade, but I'm really want to contribute to the Ms comunity. I was an active participant of the locals Microsoft Users Groups in Argentina (now I'm doing the same job at Spain), and I've been a beta tester of VS ofer 4 years. (I've had a lot to write ... but no space, and no place for CV I asume).
Really ... I think that Team 99, is a great great oportunity (also a great idea).

Best Regards,

Bruno capuano.

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mjmartin — Mon, 02 May 2005 22:17:59 GMT

Like many people before me, I think Chris Pirillo and Kevin Rose are definitely good choices, Dan Huard may also be an interesting choice.

I can't really think of anyone in the UK who could do it except Bill Thompson of BBC fame (I don't think he's tied to the BBC exclusively).

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gthing32 — Mon, 02 May 2005 22:30:27 GMT

Kevin Rose. You need to reach the younger market.
The end.

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eagle — Mon, 02 May 2005 22:35:48 GMT

Gota be 64!

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 02 May 2005 23:00:22 GMT

I definitely agree with Kevin Rose being on the Team and Leo Laporte, I wouldn't mind if Patrick Norton was on it too. I already nominated Chris Pirillo. Those four persons I think can offer some real diverse diverse input on Windows weak and sore points.

We need some persons from other countries such as Europe, Caribbean and Africa to add some input from those parts of the world on Windows and how it affects their cultures, Education, business and economies. Also, input from persons in these cultures on IT too.

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fergbrain — Mon, 02 May 2005 23:02:54 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

As to how I'm going to pick Team 99? I don't know. I'm having a lot of fun seeing these nominees.

Some principles:

1) I'm going to try to get as diverse an audience as possible. There's several reasons to do that, but I want as many different points of view on this team as absolutely possible.

2) I won't just go for popularity. See #1.

3) I will go heavy on "super users" and "super developers." My mom, for instance, need not apply. She's a great person, but she only uses her computer an hour or so a day (if that). That said, I will refer to rule #1.

4) I will go heavy on people who communicate well. That's why this is for bloggers only, so I can look at your body of work and see how well you communicate with others.

But, I'm looking for ideas. How should we pick the members?

I think the crucial thing right now is a timeline. You could spend the rest of the year accepting nominations, reading users blogs, and developing a criteria.

I would start with the date you want to have a final list of T99 members and work back from there.

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docrst — Mon, 02 May 2005 23:18:00 GMT

well,
I do have 1 AMD 64 Workstation.

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jcwelch — Mon, 02 May 2005 23:44:40 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

RossJ: I think most Microsofties don't come here cause most MSFTies are specialists and the conversation here is very broad. It's a problem that I don't know how to solve.

because programmers are by nature specialists. Sysadmins are getting that way too, but not as fast. A true generalist is rare in this day and age of certifications for everything, but valuable, because they're the ones best able to see the total puzzle, not just the one piece that a specialist cares for.

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syclonefx — Mon, 02 May 2005 23:47:18 GMT

I nominate myself. I have beta tested windows 95 and Windows 98. I would love to do this. I also have a blog, syclonefx.com.

later
Chuck

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n4cer — Mon, 02 May 2005 23:48:17 GMT

I nominate Louis Parks. He's a .NET developer individually and for a corporation. He depends on Microsoft's products daily, but isn't afraid to be critical of their products or policies both as a user and a developer.

His website is at http://www.lparky.com/ and here's a direct link to his blog http://www.lparky.com/Blog/Default.aspx

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Stefán Jökull Sigurðarson — Tue, 03 May 2005 00:26:23 GMT

Hmm.. you said earlier that you wanted international feedback as well so here i'll go on a shameless self-promotion.

I actually don't personally know anyone as passionate as myself about Longhorn and the upcoming technologies associated with it (Avalon, Indigo and later WinFS). I'm also a developer actively using Visual Studio Beta 2 in my development today and i'm very much looking forward to seeing what Longhorn will have to offer us.

But i'm not only a developer and my interests don't stop there. I'm also an avid gamer and a media enthusiast (be it audio or video). I love watching my DVD's and quality as a big issue for me. For example, i hate disorganized mp3's, badly encoded video and on those notes i must also admit that i'm a bit of a perfectionist. I want my files and documents organized, organized and organized.

I also follow hardware development closely, upgrade regularly and i'm the typical techie that friends and family call when their computers start acting up. I'm very much used to troubleshooting hardware and software problems alike, reinstalling operating systems isn't a problem.

So in short, if you're looking for a typical enthusiast that likes to go deep into the operating system and the computers hardware then i'm your man.

Now, as for the blogging aspect, i do maintain a blog but as of now it's in Icelandic. Changing into english wouldn't be a problem as i'm very much capable of writing pretty good and understandable english.

By all means, if you (Scoble) have ANY questions then don't hesitate to contact me.

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rjdohnert — Tue, 03 May 2005 00:35:36 GMT

I nominate myself. Why? Because Im passionate about Technology and I am passionate about quality of products. I am not a biased individual and I tend to communicate whats on my mind about an idea. I am respectful of NDA's and I will strive to help Microsoft build a better platform for consumers, developers and the computing community in general. I also maintain a blog.

Thanks.

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gcnaddict — Tue, 03 May 2005 02:30:56 GMT

Mhi wrote:

I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott Andre Da Costa
James Proud This guy too
Tom Warren

im hoping i didnt respond too late

I think tom's nomination was a good choice, so long as his efforts are not based on neowin. Paul... nope not really. Andre, dont know him. I dont know james either. that last guy though... im willing to support him as well

Anyways, I will concur with Mhi's nomination of myself (in mhi's post: "this guy too") for these reasons:

I will do full reviews when necessary, but I will keep them brief and to the point when too much info is not desire
I will respect ANY and ALL Non disclosure agreements (ask the r2 beta team ^_^)
I already use many microsoft services and I am testing several microsoft products at this very moment
I look at beta software in ways that most people dont (i havent seen too many people skinning Longhorn build 4074)

Anyone who has ever worked with me for more than 2 days knows that I am capable of accomplishing this task

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nexus — Tue, 03 May 2005 02:32:37 GMT

gcnaddict wrote:

Mhi wrote: I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott Andre Da Costa
James Proud This guy too
Tom Warren

im hoping i didnt respond too late

I think tom's nomination was a good choice, so long as his efforts are not based on neowin. Paul... nope not really. Andre, dont know him. I dont know james either. that last guy though... im willing to support him as well

Anyways, I will concur with Mhi's nomination of myself for these reasons:

I will do full reviews when necessary, but I will keep them brief and to the point when too much info is not desire
I will respect ANY and ALL Non disclosure agreements (ask the r2 beta team ^_^)
I already use many microsoft services and I am testing several microsoft products at this very moment
I look at beta software in ways that most people dont (i havent seen too many people skinning Longhorn build 4074)

Anyone who has ever worked with me for more than 2 days knows that I am capable of accomplishing this task

gcnaddict is a good choice. hes a knowledg able person and knows a good deal about asthetic values. he can critise something but also give input in how it could be fixed. And ive seen him honor his commitments like he said for r2 hes been a lot of help on the newsgroups and to me.

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quantumalpha — Tue, 03 May 2005 02:40:59 GMT

gcnaddict does have interesting approaches to beta testing. his work with themes/visual styles/logonUI's has definitely earned him merit among the LH enthusiast community. also his punctuality and ability to work quickly is admirable.
he also forgot to mention his own blog/website: http://www.gcnaddict.com/

i also feel that the old techTV crew should be nominated (Pat, Leo, ...) but these new guys and G4 don't seem to deserve much yet (at least in my eyes, G4 has ruined TechTV)

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gcnaddict — Tue, 03 May 2005 02:41:55 GMT

nexus wrote:

gcnaddict wrote:

Mhi wrote: I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott Andre Da Costa
James Proud This guy too
Tom Warren

im hoping i didnt respond too late

I think tom's nomination was a good choice, so long as his efforts are not based on neowin. Paul... nope not really. Andre, dont know him. I dont know james either. that last guy though... im willing to support him as well

Anyways, I will concur with Mhi's nomination of myself for these reasons:

I will do full reviews when necessary, but I will keep them brief and to the point when too much info is not desire
I will respect ANY and ALL Non disclosure agreements (ask the r2 beta team ^_^)
I already use many microsoft services and I am testing several microsoft products at this very moment
I look at beta software in ways that most people dont (i havent seen too many people skinning Longhorn build 4074)

Anyone who has ever worked with me for more than 2 days knows that I am capable of accomplishing this task

gcnaddict is a good choice. hes a knowledg able person and knows a good deal about asthetic values. he can critise something but also give input in how it could be fixed. And ive seen him honor his commitments like he said for r2 hes been a lot of help on the newsgroups and to me.

someone registered for the sole purpose of backing me up? I feel honored

scobleizer wrote:As to how I'm going to pick Team 99? I don't know. I'm having a lot of fun seeing these nominees.

Some principles:

1) I'm going to try to get as diverse an audience as possible. There's several reasons to do that, but I want as many different points of view on this team as absolutely possible.

2) I won't just go for popularity. See #1.

3) I will go heavy on "super users" and "super developers." My mom, for instance, need not apply. She's a great person, but she only uses her computer an hour or so a day (if that). That said, I will refer to rule #1.

4) I will go heavy on people who communicate well. That's why this is for bloggers only, so I can look at your body of work and see how well you communicate with others.

But, I'm looking for ideas. How should we pick the members?

youve got the point of view from someone who loves to look at these things from the aesthetic and ease of use (functionality as well) point of view. im also someone who isnt hesitant to bash a product if it doesnt meet my expectations but im sure that wont be an issue here. You want honesty and/or propaganda, youve got it.
me? popular? it depends with which crowd. i dont hold the same status as paul, but that can be a good thing
is 11 hours a day (remote + physical presence) good enough? and not for IMing and email. im on usually for technical stuff such as writing programs or examining software/hardware
communicating with others... i tend to keep my writing concise, but i can go big if necessary. I can do alot of "word-of-mouth" work

I can collaborate well with others and get a team strategy worked out. I am the man for the job
By the way, my full site is here, if you would like to see what I've worked on.

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vorte[x] — Tue, 03 May 2005 03:01:40 GMT

"They'll tell us where we're screwing up, what we're doing well, and will be world's top authorities on Longhorn." - Scoble

I think we, the OS hackers (to you guys the bottom feeders without blogs), have been doing that quite well since 3683 leaked. Isn't it a bit too late for the (re)formulation of the "Team 99"?

Sidebar question: Are we ever going to get a build of Longhorn that we can reliably develop upon? That "developer preview" we received at WinHEC is defective and missing parts straight of the box. Now that I think about it more, that cheap multilingual Turboman doll comes to mind...

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Andre Da Costa — Tue, 03 May 2005 03:04:38 GMT

Why do I sense that Nexus, GCNaddict and quantumalpha are the same person or either in this for something more than making users realize the full potential of Windows?
Windows is more than a skin, I think Microsoft could sell Windows on Classic rather than Luna or Aero, they just gotta know how to do it.

For most businesses they don't care about skins, thats the first thing most Admins disable through Group Policy.

GCNaddict you know both James and I, trust me.

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mattcassell — Tue, 03 May 2005 03:12:16 GMT

I would like to nominate myself.

I was asked by a program manager at MS Canada to be a volunteer .net evangelist (I have no official title), and work with high school students.

I’ve been doing that for a while now. I’ve been blogging @ theSpoke (http://www.theSpoke.net/myblog/mattcassell/myblog.aspx) for almost a year now. Also, I’ve given a few presentations to .net ug’s around my area.

- Matt matt.cassell@rogers.com

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Tommy4 — Tue, 03 May 2005 03:19:09 GMT

I have been watching this string for a while and seeing everyone submit the so called popular names. I hope that this team will include new and unknown members that have nothing to lose but to help Longhorn being a better OS. Please keep some of the no ones on the list. thanks.

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techSage — Tue, 03 May 2005 03:40:22 GMT

I, David Mealo (mealoda on asp.net, techSage here and elsewhere), refuse to shamelessly nominate myself as (many) others have here, but I am more than willing to accept any nominations from this group of people who, unfortunately for me, don't know who I am. That being said, here are my qualifications:

I have been enthusiastic about Microsoft ever since using Windows for Workgroups to RAS into a government server (legally, for those whom are nervous about that statement) for web browsing using NCSA Mosaic in the early 90s. I would say since MS-DOS, but let's face it, that was not exciting. I've beta tested various MS products since Windows 95 + MSN (when it looked more like AOL/Compuserve).

I am currently a software developer therefore a power user by default, keeping my feet in the non-development side of systems all along. I am a blogger and, I believe, an effective communicator. I blog about various technology, but am most enthusiastic about MS tech (Tablet PCs, VS.NET, Windows especially). You can review my topics on my blog, techSage techNews.

As far as visibility, I am mostly active in the ASP.NET community, specifically developing web apps for SQL-based government financial and project management systems, but also contribute in supporting some "open" ASP.NET projects like DotNetNuke and Community Server (on which C9 is built).

If you can think of no one else to nominate, feel free to consider mentioning my name as an alternative to silence.

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Kenneth_VS — Tue, 03 May 2005 03:53:20 GMT

I Would like to nominate Maarten Goet of Techlog.org.(MS Related Community Site)

Because i think he has the knowledge and the skills to perform this task in a correct way.He is MS certified as well, and works with all kinds of MS Related technology in his daily job.

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joos — Tue, 03 May 2005 05:22:24 GMT

Any chance of a UK person. I have seen lots of the people we all enjoy reading with and I think they would all be a very good choice. So I would like to through my hat in why not?

Joe

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aspnix — Tue, 03 May 2005 06:02:09 GMT

Mhi wrote:

I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott Andre Da Costa
James Proud This guy too
Tom Warren

Dont forget Ryan Hoffman to that list! He is Bink.nu Developer!
Read his blog: http://www.extended64.com/blogs/rhoffman/archive/2005/05/03/411.aspx

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Diego Vega — Tue, 03 May 2005 06:10:14 GMT

I won't nominate myself, but you can take a look at this post and you will see a sample of the feedback you can get from me (there is a lot more both on my blog and in my mind). So, you are welcome to nominate me

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wagtberg — Tue, 03 May 2005 06:49:52 GMT

I get the major part of non Microsoft originated Microsoft info from bink.nu and Paul Thurrott's WinInfo websites...
I would like to nominate:

Steven Bink/Ryan Hoffmann
Paul Thurrott

Kind regards
Klaus Wagtberg

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Diego Vega — Tue, 03 May 2005 06:56:53 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Diego: yup, and on the other side of the fence, Paul Mooney just reminded me not to forget 64-bit enthusiasts too.

True. On both sides of the fence Microsoft has much to loose to Linux and others. The more feedback you get on this, the better.

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michielonline — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:00:50 GMT

I like Chris Pirillo, he is not affraid to give his opinion and he doesn't "beat around the bush".

I don't really understand why it has to be a blogger?? They are under NDA I assume so won't be able to blog anything about LH anyway!?!

Also, there are a lot of bloggers that are very narrow minded pro MS. I don't think that is of much help. Maybe you would even need some linux fanatics for decent criticism. I wouldn't even count myself as completely objective as my MS certification basically pais my salary.

I also think you need at least two minds on every subject (MCE, x64, Server, Client, UI, Networking, etc).

Some more names that come to mind:
Paul Thurrott (General Windows)
Steven Bink (Mostly server related)
Daniel Sterling (MCE TGB community)
Tom Warren (General Windows)
Thomas Shinder (Networking)

But on the other hand, it might be time for some fresh blogging blood!

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NetRyder — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:06:07 GMT

NetRyder wrote:

Definitely get Chris Pirillo in. I was listening to some of the feedback he was giving Shanen Boettcher at the blogger lunch in Seattle on Tuesday, and he had some solid, concrete ideas for improvement. Plus, he's not hesitant to be critical when it's necessary.

Brandon Paddock also posts lots of good suggestions and feedback on his blog. I think he'd be another great choice, especially in the search and organization space.

Marc Orchant for feedback on pen-based input in Longhorn is pretty much a no-brainer. He really knows his stuff, and his blogs are a joy to read.

I'd love to be there myself. I attended WinHEC and the x64 launch last week, and it was a blast. I do meet the core "requirements" - been a regular blogger for two years, and I've been passionate about computers since the age of 8. =)

Since everyone's doing it, I thought I'd expand on that original post a little bit.
As I mentioned earlier, I do meet the two core requirements - I've been a tech enthusiast from a very young age, and I've had a frequently updated blog for the last two years. I also spent the first 16 years of my life in India (I'm 20 now), so I think I would be able to bring in a unique international perspective to the team as well.

I have been actively involved with various Microsoft Featured Communities, especially OSNN.net and Neowin (and Channel9 recently), ever since the launch of Windows XP back in 2001. I have been a tech journalist and forum moderator on OSNN for a couple of years, and our members have always held me in high regard for my contributions to the community. I represented OSNN at WinHEC 2005 and the x64 launch event last week and wrote an exhaustive report of the event with technical information and pictures so that our members could be a part of the experience.

Besides being involved in online communities and the blogosphere, I am also an active student leader at UCLA, where I am currently pursuing a Bacherlor's degree in Computer Science. I have been an officer of the university's ACM chapter for two years, and I was responsible for deploying and maintaining a content management system for the student group. I have also worked closely with my fellow team-members to organize project groups and programming contests, industry events and mock interviews, faculty talks and research opportunities, and student advocacy campaigns to improve the undergraduate CS curriculum. Next year, I will be taking on the position of Technology Chair for ACM, and one of my responsibilities will be to incorporate the latest technology into the group's activities in new ways. I have also been nominated for the Microsoft Student Ambassador program next year due to my deep interest in Microsoft's products and technologies, and my presence within the computer science student body.

I feel that my strong technical skills and my involvement on campus as a student leader, combined with my active participation in the online community and blogosphere make me a good overall fit for Team 99. Feel free to send me an email (the link's on my blog), and we can have a chat on MSNM sometime.

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OfficerJoe — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:29:25 GMT

I would like to nominate myself for Team 99 because of the unique perspective that I would bring to the team, since:

1. I work in retail computer sales, and consequently have daily contact with hundreds of Windows (current and prospective) users of all experience levels. I am constantly getting feedback about what people wish their OS could do, what they like, and what they despise with passion. Allowing me to become a member of Team 99 would give these every-day Windows users an indirect voice into the development of Longhorn. Being in retail also means I have extensive experience with the different Windows flavors, from Media Center Edition to Tablet PC Edition to Windows Mobile.

2. I am a software developer, and a college student working on a software engineering degree. I appreciate the efforts going into making Longhorn what will be the best development platform available, and I am particularly interested in the new Speech interfaces and functionality.

3. I am an experienced tester for many past and upcoming Microsoft products, and so I am familiar and comfortable with signing NDAs and abiding by them. I do not have a problem with confidentiality since the benefits of Microsoft getting this kind of feedback will far outweigh the restriction. In my home I have the following OS editions installed and running on separate machines, none of them being dual-boot or virtual machines: XP Pro (x3), XP Home (x4), XP MCE (x2), XP Tablet PC (x1), XP x64 (x1), Longhorn (x1), Server 2003 Enterprise (x1). As you can see, it's quite the testing setup

4. I blog, although currently my blog is not publicly accessible. I use it to record my thoughts about software, development, new technologies and speech-related technologies in particular. I would be willing to make my blog accessible to the public if that is necessary to be part of Team 99, although that seems to conflict with the proposed use of an NDA.

5. I have lived in several different cultures and I am familiar with software localization processes and challenges.

Joseph Kilada

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andyandy — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:44:35 GMT

My votes goes to:
* Tom Warren
* Ian Griffiths
* Ars Technica (don't know who's best of them, but Ars Technica always write great, deep articles )
* Input from someone from the FreeBSD community would be nice: http://people.freebsd.org/~arved/bloglist.html
* Steve "Kernel Mustard" Dispensa (http://www.msmvps.com/kernelmustard/)

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Alessandro_Perilli — Tue, 03 May 2005 09:01:39 GMT

Hi all,
I'd like to nominate Steven Bink (bink.nu) for Team 99.
He is more than passionate and authoritative

Thanks

Alessandro Perilli
http://www.virtualization.info

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gcnaddict — Tue, 03 May 2005 10:30:28 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

Why do I sense that Nexus, GCNaddict and quantumalpha are the same person or either in this for something more than making users realize the full potential of Windows?
Windows is more than a skin, I think Microsoft could sell Windows on Classic rather than Luna or Aero, they just gotta know how to do it.

For most businesses they don't care about skins, thats the first thing most Admins disable through Group Policy.

GCNaddict you know both James and I, trust me.

actually, the admins of this site can tell that they arent the same people

and no i dont know you... if i do then maybe youd better PM me and tell me where I know you from.

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Christian(MVP) — Tue, 03 May 2005 10:39:53 GMT

Hi,

I agree with you, Steven Bink is my first choice

Christian

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tomwarren — Tue, 03 May 2005 10:48:08 GMT

Thank you for the nominations (Tom Warren here).

I'd like to nominate

Chris Pirillo - When I think RSS
Paul Thurrott - When I think Windows Reviews
Steven Bink - When I think Windows Server/Tech

Fairly obvious why, they all play a huge role in the Windows community over a period of years and provide great feedback.

I'd like to blow my own horn a little, over the years I've provided reviews, feedback and some revealing details on whistler and Longhorn at Neowin.net. I'd like the opportunity to provide solid feedback and criticism of Longhorn out to the community to comment on.

I think there should be some kind of minimum age to Team 99 to ensure that whoever is giving feedback understands the demands of developers, the demands of the enterprise and demands of consumers. Without relevant knowledge of all of these 3 areas I don't see HOW people can give good feedback.

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Blackice — Tue, 03 May 2005 10:48:46 GMT

I'd nominate AeroXP/Stan_fis(c?)her

and AeroXP/Blackice

I think AXP is a good longhorn group and a good place to start ... they know it inside out

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tomwarren — Tue, 03 May 2005 10:50:04 GMT

Blackice wrote:

I'd nominate AeroXP/Stan_fis(c?)her

and AeroXP/Blackice

I think AXP is a good longhorn group and a good place to start ... they know it inside out

http://www.aeroxp.net :laugh:

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Ryan Hoffman — Tue, 03 May 2005 12:19:45 GMT

Well, thank you Paul Mooney for nominating me (I'm Ryan Hoffman) and Steven Bink way back on page 2.

Interestingly enough, Scoble blogged about Paul calling him up and telling him that there needs to be a lot of 64-bit representation on Team 99. I hope Paul dropped my name on that phone conversation, as I own Extended64.com .

I think Scoble is going to have a very fun time figuring out how to only pick 20 people for this. I guess us hopefuls can only try to get noticed. I blogged this entry on "Why I Should Be On Team 99", and also posted a plea on Bink.nu for people to come over and support me and Steven.

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IanD — Tue, 03 May 2005 12:27:14 GMT

I would like to nominate myself if there is a chance to look at the Media Center side of things.

I have a great interest in that side of Windows.

Then when the time is right I could talk about it on my Windows Media Center Podcast. I also have a Media Center Blog.

I am sure there are people better qualified to do it but I do have a genuine interest (I also write apps for Media Center)

Ian

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fdezjose — Tue, 03 May 2005 13:25:27 GMT

Do you have to be a developer to join the Team 99?

I would love to be part of this wonderful team. I'm what they call a "power user", a geek; I've used all Windows versions, even MS BOB! I love everything that's related to the digital media world, I'm very passionate about software, I believe in the endless power of software. One of my hobbies is to go to a computer store and hear people conversation about what they think of computers, how they see them. I'm very exited about what you guys are doing in Longhorn. If I were you I would also nominate people form Europe (doesn’t have to be me though it would be really great, phenomenal as Bill Gates say!) and Asia. Feedback would be richer.
So yes, I nominate myself.

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KevinOwen — Tue, 03 May 2005 13:38:24 GMT

Here are my nominations:

Steven Bink
Ryan Hoffman
Paul Thurrott
Mark Russinovich

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Cairo — Tue, 03 May 2005 13:50:06 GMT

KevinOwen wrote:

Here are my nominations:

Paul Thurrott

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Long Zheng — Tue, 03 May 2005 14:21:34 GMT

As much as I'd love to participate in this opportunity, since I have no credibility or blog, and creating one just for this occasion would be so contradictory to its purpose so I'm not going to fake it

But I will nominate Tom Warren. I've only seen him on Neowin but from the times I've seen his posts or articles, it absolutely amazes me at the effort he does into sharing all those valuable information he gathers. To me he seems passionate about computers and heavily involved with them as well. I would think he would give great feedback on behalf of Microsoft like he does already. I really hope he gets it. He deserves it

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jason_looney — Tue, 03 May 2005 14:32:53 GMT

You need a couple of guys to lighten the mood. If Rory's out of the running (since he's an employee and all), I'll do the humble thing and nominate myself: http://www.thelooneys.com/blogs/jason.

E-mail: jason@thelooneys.com

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jsrfc58 — Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:23 GMT

News flash! This time, Steve Jobs starts a blog for real! Just for this limited Longhorn engagement!

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FyinsFlip — Tue, 03 May 2005 14:48:43 GMT

I visit Dan Bartels ( http://blog.danbartels.com ) for my information on Long Horn. He has been at a few of the recent conferences and has some in depth post on what is coming.

I would nominate Dan Bartels

Sincerely,
David Dimmer
Director of Development

Fyin, Inc.
Local: (414) 273-0101

W: http://www.fyin.com
Complete Website Design and Interactive Programming

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Bea — Tue, 03 May 2005 15:04:39 GMT

I vote for Bruno Capuano (El Bruno)
brunocapuano@msn.com ...

Byes

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ZaheerChothia — Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:27 GMT

My Team99 Nominations:
Steven Bink
James Proud
Paul Thurrott
Andre Da Costa

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Jose Francisco — Tue, 03 May 2005 15:36:08 GMT

creamhackered wrote:

http://www.aeroxp.net :laugh:

Hmm... What's so funny?

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tomwarren — Tue, 03 May 2005 15:37:32 GMT

Jose Francisco wrote:

creamhackered wrote:
http://www.aeroxp.net :laugh:

Hmm... What's so funny?

Well look at the link, site doesn't even exist anymore.

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Jose Francisco — Tue, 03 May 2005 15:46:45 GMT

creamhackered wrote:

Well look at the link, site doesn't even exist anymore.

Yah, but there is no reason to laugh over that I also heard that the site is undergoing domain renewal. Stan (from AeroXP), discovered a lot of interesting stuff hidden in previous Windows Longhorn builds

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tsilb — Tue, 03 May 2005 15:58:50 GMT

Obviously a geek such as me should be on the team. I do fascinating things on XP, with the five monitors, a dozen or so USB devices, 11 HDDs, etc etc... I can test the new IIS, PMC, MMC, etc in addition to stressing the OS to its limits. Normally my CPU hovers around 50-90% from background stuff I run in addition to some serious games.

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Synaptic — Tue, 03 May 2005 16:01:37 GMT

I have to agree with FyinsFlip's nomination of Dan Bartels. I think he could really offer a lot to the Longhorn development project. Just visit Dan Bartels ( http://blog.danbartels.com/">http://blog.danbartels.com ) and see for yourself.

Sincerely,
Ken

Synapse Designs, Inc.®

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olcay — Tue, 03 May 2005 17:32:49 GMT

I would like to nominate Stan Fisher = Stanimir Stoyanov (aka stan_fisher) from AeroXP.net. He made some great founds in the past. He is watching the development of Longhorn since the early Alphas.

Profil: http://channel9.msdn.com/User/Profile.aspx?UserID=9374

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gcnaddict — Tue, 03 May 2005 17:33:54 GMT

how many people are going to be selected?

and yes I would also like to add stan_fischer (stanimir) to my list of nominations

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Brandon Paddock — Tue, 03 May 2005 17:35:15 GMT

creamhackered wrote:

I think there should be some kind of minimum age to Team 99 to ensure that whoever is giving feedback understands the demands of developers, the demands of the enterprise and demands of consumers. Without relevant knowledge of all of these 3 areas I don't see HOW people can give good feedback.

Tom, with all due respect (which is a lot), that's a terrible idea.

Age should be the last consideration they have.

At the recent Search Champs event, I was by far the youngest attendee. I bet anyone who was there will tell you that I was the loudest voice for developers in the whole crowd. I was also one of the few to address enterprise/IT related issues (such as AD deployment and management capabilities for client tools).

I think candidates should be chosen based on: knowledge and experience, communicative abilities, conviction, credibility, and insight.

I also think the more opinionated you are, the better. The best candidates are those who won't hold back and who will not just express their opinions, but support them with thoughtful arguments and put their feedback into a useful and constructive context.

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gcnaddict — Tue, 03 May 2005 17:43:33 GMT

BHpaddock wrote:

creamhackered wrote:
I think there should be some kind of minimum age to Team 99 to ensure that whoever is giving feedback understands the demands of developers, the demands of the enterprise and demands of consumers. Without relevant knowledge of all of these 3 areas I don't see HOW people can give good feedback.

Tom, with all due respect (which is a lot), that's a terrible idea.

Age should be the last consideration they have.

At the recent Search Champs event, I was by far the youngest attendee. I bet anyone who was there will tell you that I was the loudest voice for developers in the whole crowd. I was also one of the few to address enterprise/IT related issues (such as AD deployment and management capabilities for client tools).

I think candidates should be chosen based on: knowledge and experience, communicative abilities, conviction, credibility, and insight.

I also think the more opinionated you are, the better. The best candidates are those who won't hold back and who will not just express their opinions, but support them with thoughtful arguments and put their feedback into a useful and constructive context.

I would also like to add that, in my opinion, it would be better to divide these three jobs amongst bloggers who can do a better job conveying their opinions to their respective groups. It would also make it MUCH easier on bloggers, when they know who their target audience is

edit: i was referring to the three jobs tom mentioned

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Tommy4 — Tue, 03 May 2005 17:47:36 GMT

I dont think it should be age by birth year but rather age within the IT community. You could be a 20 year old, top developer or engineer, and be the president of a company. or you could be a 55 year old guy that can not even tell me waht BIOS is. I would like to see someone in the community that truely understands the need of not only the home or casual user but also the corporate enterpise users.

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stan_fisher™ — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:12:34 GMT

gcnaddict wrote:

how many people are going to be selected?

and yes I would also like to add stan_fischer (stanimir) to my list of nominations

According to Robert Scoble, there are only 20 slots open.

I know there are a lot of nominations already, but I'd like to nominate GCNAddict for his skinning skills, and vorte[x] for his Windows and programming knowledge.

I'd love to be in the team myself. I've always been passionate about computers and innovations, am a programmer, C# and VB.NET primarily, I have been posting works and spreading the word about Longhorn on http://www.aeroxp.net (although it's down for a while because of domain renewal, it's going to be up again pretty soon). I am an official beta tester, as well, loyal to NDAs, providing good and accurate feedback whenever possible.

Regards,
Stanimir Stoyanov

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Jaz — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:36:47 GMT

Tekmaven wrote:

Well, thank you Paul Mooney for nominating me (I'm Ryan Hoffman) and Steven Bink way back on page 2.

Interestingly enough, Scoble blogged about Paul calling him up and telling him that there needs to be a lot of 64-bit representation on Team 99. I hope Paul dropped my name on that phone conversation, as I own Extended64.com .

I think Scoble is going to have a very fun time figuring out how to only pick 20 people for this. I guess us hopefuls can only try to get noticed. I blogged this entry on "Why I Should Be On Team 99", and also posted a plea on Bink.nu for people to come over and support me and Steven.

woo yeah go you, you just turned this into a popularity contest

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Jaz — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:42:31 GMT

why not?

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Chris123NT — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:44:43 GMT

Jaz wrote:

why not?

Cuz he still has school

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Jaz — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:46:30 GMT

what and you never took a holiday during term time?

my dad has lectures to give to his students, he still heads off to america a few times a year to attend a conference.

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billh — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:49:13 GMT

I nominate...

...everybody that posts after me...

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Chris123NT — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:50:57 GMT

Jaz wrote:

what and you never took a holiday during term time?

my dad has lectures to give to his students, he still heads off to america a few times a year to attend a conference.

Ok yes, but if you have to be over 18 to beta test windows, then I would assume the same rule would apply to this. I'm not saying people under 18 are stupid, but it becomes a legal thing because they are still minors etc...

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Andre Da Costa — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:52:04 GMT

creamhackered wrote:

Thank you for the nominations (Tom Warren here).

I'd like to nominate

Chris Pirillo - When I think RSS
Paul Thurrott - When I think Windows Reviews
Steven Bink - When I think Windows Server/Tech

Fairly obvious why, they all play a huge role in the Windows community over a period of years and provide great feedback.

I'd like to blow my own horn a little, over the years I've provided reviews, feedback and some revealing details on whistler and Longhorn at Neowin.net. I'd like the opportunity to provide solid feedback and criticism of Longhorn out to the community to comment on.

Have you gained weight? Anyway, I nominate you. Lets see if we are achieving our goals.

1. Chris Pirillo (white/short/popular)
2. Paul Thurrott (White/Fat/popular)
3. Tom Warren (White/gained a few pounds/popular)
4. Steven Bink (White/slim/popular)
5. Kevin Rose (White/slim/popular)
6. Leo Laporte (White/Fat/popular)
7. Patrick Norton (White/Fat/popular)

13 more to go!

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Chris123NT — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:58:38 GMT

Just to clear something up:

Edit: James begged me to remove this

Anyway I nominate:

AlphaAlien
Tom Warren
and Myself

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lars — Tue, 03 May 2005 19:08:08 GMT

Fastest growing thread ever on C9?

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Brandon Paddock — Tue, 03 May 2005 19:13:07 GMT

Chris123NT wrote:

Ok yes, but if you have to be over 18 to beta test windows, then I would assume the same rule would apply to this. I'm not saying people under 18 are stupid, but it becomes a legal thing because they are still minors etc...

Not necessarily applicable here (as you're probably right that they want 18+ candidates), but I was a technical beta tester for Windows long before I was 18

I think I was in the 9th grade when I got invited to test DirectX and then Windows 98 (and every subsequent release). They never asked how old I was .

Of course, I'm nearly 21 now so that's no longer an issue for me.

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bk86a — Tue, 03 May 2005 19:57:26 GMT

OK folks, I see only english websites-blog-creators on the list. Would be great to involve somebody in different countries, like Poland, where I am from.

Mike

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johlos — Tue, 03 May 2005 19:57:33 GMT

Steven Bink and Ryan Hoffman would be my nominations. http://bink.nu is one of the best informational sites on the web for all things related to MS. Steven & Ryan would be excellent additions to Team 99.

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mrgrosser — Tue, 03 May 2005 20:04:14 GMT

Can anyone be nominated? Including myself?

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Andre Da Costa — Tue, 03 May 2005 20:08:47 GMT

Yes, you can nominate yourself.

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Tommy4 — Tue, 03 May 2005 20:09:52 GMT

How long is this string going to go on? When will you make a team so we can see who you picked? Thanks

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mrgrosser — Tue, 03 May 2005 20:16:30 GMT

Then I nominate myself, I realize I'm not a part of Microsoft but as I'm sure you all have worked with their products for quite some time and have been using Longhorn since its been up on the MSDN Subscriptions site. I do blog with MSN Spaces.. and honestly think I would be able to contribute quite a bit as your "Average" user.
You can check out my space at http://spaces.msn.com/members/robertsodman

Thanks

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francisShanahan — Tue, 03 May 2005 20:30:45 GMT

I'll nominate myself. I'm fairly active, have written a bunch of articles for Visual Studio Developer Magazine (http://www.PinPub.com) and now 2 for MSDN.

I'm not that visible but I am opaque!

I have a little Sandbox here:
http://www.FrancisShanahan.com
and I'm often writing weird little tech experiments (http://www.francisshanahan.com/collage/bezos/bezos_b.aspx) just for the heck of it. The Bezos thing was in the Puget Sound Business Journal in April.

In my day I'm an architect so I have a broad awareness of the industry. I like Zachman, GOF and I'm also EJB/J2ee Websphere certified.

I build my own machines from the enclosure up.

What else? I participated in the Online Demos Beta testing and gave a tonne of feedback over 6 months.

Folks tell me I'm passionate although it sometimes comes off as cynicism.

Oh yeah, and I'm not fat but I am white (Irish actually, and no not the fake US kind).

A vote for me is a vote for democracy.
-fs

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jsrfc58 — Tue, 03 May 2005 20:42:34 GMT

This is turning into the ultimate "ego" thread.

Search for the phrase "Nominate Myself" on Channel 9.

Go on, try it. This thread has 40 something entries for the phrase "nominate myself".

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MilindL — Tue, 03 May 2005 20:47:50 GMT

I'd vote for James Proud!

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Chris Pietschmann — Tue, 03 May 2005 22:02:48 GMT

I'd nominate myself, but I'm not well known. Although I do have a blog.

I would have to nominate Steven Bink from http://bink.nu

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Wil — Tue, 03 May 2005 22:14:31 GMT

Oh, great. Now Longhorn will get its feedback from MSDN freaks, "superusers", and "superdevelopers". No mere mortals need apply. Do I see feature-bloat, counter-intuitive operations, and complex infrastructure galore coming down the road as a result? Might I suggest that you need less blogging about "Wouldn't it be if..." and more blogging about "Wouldn't it be if...". I therefore suggest that instead of picking 20 blogging gurus, you choose 20 people at random from the phone book and give them blogs. Get real users, not guys who dream in assembly language. I do not want an OS for superusers. I want an OS for folks who just want to get some work done. (Yeah, yeah, so I should shut up and buy a Mac...) Remember what caused Longhorn to collapse under its own weight earlier, and why you had to build it around Windows 2003 instead. Instead of blogs by MS "evangelists" to whom Windows is in fact a religion, and who thus will execute elaborate rituals with their keyboard and mouse as they faithrfully offer sacrifice daily to a graven image of Bill G., you should get blogs by OS agnostics who don't get a damn whether their PC is running WinXP, OS X, Linux, BSD, OS/2, DR DOS, or CP/M - they just want to turn the machine on and accomplish their job.

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mrservices — Tue, 03 May 2005 22:38:32 GMT

Hello, just found this on Microsoft Watch.

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1791340,00.asp

Best regards,

Roger

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mistermarc — Tue, 03 May 2005 22:47:41 GMT

Well here goes...I'll throw my hat in the ring! If I can be converted to become an evangelist then you really have a winner. Some may recognize my handle, others might not. We run Wizards of Technology Radio, distributed on the internet, podcasted, and soon to a satelite and AM station near you. My co-Host and I are avid Apple users, with technical skills that are cross-platform. I have an open mind and would be willing to entertain the idea. Our show is focused on "being a geek so you don't have to be" in assisting new and intermediate technology users with their challenges. We are a small venture into podcasting, internet radio, blogging, and technology in general. Forum for technical discussions and a place to air our presentations for beginner to intermediate technology users. Guest list includes: Wil Wheaton, Star Trek; Amanda Congdon, rocketboom.com; Laura Burstein, Inside Mac Radio; Leo LaPorte, Tech TV and KFI Los Angeles; Rick Yaeger, macmerc.com; August Trommetter, ipodderx.com; Chris Hoar, CEO, textamerica.com; David Pogue, Missing manuals and NYT columnist; Andy Ihnatko, The Chicago Sun-Times, Macworld UK, Macworld, The Mac Observer; Chris Breen, MacWorld magazine; Jon Gales, mobiletracker.com; Nitrozac and Snaggy, Joy of Tech; Rob Griffiths, macosxhints.com; Promos with Steve Wozniak. Mobile broadcasts linked authors with readers at bookstores and technology outlets. Attended Bloggercon discussions. Software collaboration with iPodderX. Partnership with Duke University iPod Project. In talks with Infinity Broadcasting for further distribution. Drupal CMS on Linux hosting. Content distributed from Akamai servers, direct link or using aggregator. Listenership aggregation at 3000+ listeners a day. Collaborations in sponsoring other podcasters. We can usually bring attention to a topic! Best regards, Marc "MisterMarc" Asturias http://www.wizardsoftechnology.com

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jcwelch — Tue, 03 May 2005 23:14:39 GMT

BHpaddock wrote:

Chris123NT wrote:
Ok yes, but if you have to be over 18 to beta test windows, then I would assume the same rule would apply to this. I'm not saying people under 18 are stupid, but it becomes a legal thing because they are still minors etc...

Not necessarily applicable here (as you're probably right that they want 18+ candidates), but I was a technical beta tester for Windows long before I was 18

I think I was in the 9th grade when I got invited to test DirectX and then Windows 98 (and every subsequent release). They never asked how old I was .

Of course, I'm nearly 21 now so that's no longer an issue for me.

The problem tends to be the NDA. A minor can't legally sign one, and having their parents sign one for them can get tricky too.

While I don't think that age makes a big difference, I don't see how having a cutoff at 18 will create a problem.

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Andre Da Costa — Tue, 03 May 2005 23:20:43 GMT

Wil you got my vote.

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Andre Da Costa — Tue, 03 May 2005 23:41:52 GMT

I have been preaching, lets think globally, lets think about the people who are not interested that much in Windows but use it just for the basic stuff, lets move them from the basics to the potentials.

The questions have still not been answered:

Why are some companies just deploying Windows 2000?
Why are some companies just deploying Windows XP? Windows XP was released almost 5 years ago, why are they just now choosing to deploy?
Whats up with inertia?
Why a fair amount of users still are on 98?
Why are schools still stuck on 98 and Office 2000?
I want to know the mystery behind "its good enough", "it just works", "if it ain't broke, why fix it?"

Microsoft cannot meet the needs of all, but they can set revolutionary standards that end up being accepted by everyone.

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Maurits — Tue, 03 May 2005 23:47:43 GMT

because installing new software costs money and time - unless the benefit of the new features outweigh the cost to purchase and deploy, companies and users will stick with what they have

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Andre Da Costa — Wed, 04 May 2005 00:58:59 GMT

Maurits wrote:

because installing new software costs money and time - unless the benefit of the new features outweigh the cost to purchase and deploy, companies and users will stick with what they have

So, how can we break new ground on that issue Maurits, and help companies realize the value of moving forward off legacy MS technology and start adopting the new stuff successfully? How can we help solve the the sore points on transitioning to new Microsoft technology, but most of all "see" the "benefits of it"?

It is most obvious that Microsoft's old products continue to be their worst enemy, from Office to Win-Desktop/Server.

And I said it before and I will say it again, Piracy. Let company's start activating their software.

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gcnaddict — Wed, 04 May 2005 01:21:19 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

Maurits wrote:because installing new software costs money and time - unless the benefit of the new features outweigh the cost to purchase and deploy, companies and users will stick with what they have

So, how can we break new ground on that issue Maurits, and help companies realize the value of moving forward off legacy MS technology and start adopting the new stuff successfully? How can we help solve the the sore points on transitioning to new Microsoft technology, but most of all "see" the "benefits of it"?

It is most obvious that Microsoft's old products continue to be their worst enemy, from Office to Win-Desktop/Server.

And I said it before and I will say it again, Piracy. Let company's start activating their software.

1) Many companies are informed of the new features. However, with that in mind, they dont upgrade because they know that they definitely WONT use the new features (or that the new stuff isnt worth upgrading for). Some corporations will use them (the new collaboration-enhancing features of Office 2003 for instance) because they know that it will be worth their money.

2) Do you have any idea how much of a hassle it will be for corporations to activate sofware on n number of machines?

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DrakeGreene — Wed, 04 May 2005 02:31:09 GMT

I'd like to nominate myself. I have a history of evangelizing MSFT products, and 4051 has been running on my desktop since the build became available. As a Media guy longhorn is going to be where its at for me, and while I usually live on the server and content creation side, the UI, and metadata fun that comes with longhorn is very exciting.

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Tommy4 — Wed, 04 May 2005 02:40:02 GMT

Well this has really made it to the big times. check out the article in Pcworld
http://www.pcworld.com/resource/article/0,aid,120693,pg,1,RSS,RSS,00.asp

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me — Wed, 04 May 2005 02:57:52 GMT

I'd like to nominate all C9 members - on behalf of the group and ourselves - and I hope we passed the audition

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scobleizer — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:16:30 GMT

Tommy: I'll take the process to the next step sometime in the next week.

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jcwelch — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:20:51 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

I have been preaching, lets think globally, lets think about the people who are not interested that much in Windows but use it just for the basic stuff, lets move them from the basics to the potentials.

The questions have still not been answered:

Why are some companies just deploying Windows 2000?
Why are some companies just deploying Windows XP? Windows XP was released almost 5 years ago, why are they just now choosing to deploy?
Whats up with inertia?
Why a fair amount of users still are on 98?
Why are schools still stuck on 98 and Office 2000?
I want to know the mystery behind "its good enough", "it just works", "if it ain't broke, why fix it?"

Microsoft cannot meet the needs of all, but they can set revolutionary standards that end up being accepted by everyone.

Because when you're in business the computer's a tool. Nothing more. The OS is meaningless, as long as the job gets done. If you didn't have a need to move past NT4, why do so, when there are other things to spend money and time on?

"New" != "Better", it just equals "New".

For example, for someone just doing mail merges, Office 2000 is a fine tool, or whatever version of Office they have. Don't lose site of the fact that most people don't WANT to have to know versions. They want their stuff to just work. The relative age of the tool is meaningless as long as it works. Non-Geeks don't view the computer as a tool unto itself. It's only useful as the task it performs.

When you run a network with over a thousand nodes, there's no such thing as a no-brainer upgrade. Ever. And unless that upgrade gives you features that will make things noticeably better or easier without creating large amounts of training costs, and disrupting workflow, OR makes things "Better Enough" so that it's worth the training and disruption, you're irresponsible to recommend that upgrade.

For example...for the work I do, there's no effective difference between XP and 2000. For one, I really hate the XP interface compared to 2000's. It's in my way all the time. For another, I can run my snort/Nagios/MRTG tools just as well from 2000 as XP. So there's no real REASON to upgrade beyond "it's newer", since nothing I do improved in XP. The only reason I did was for a single feature: The built in Remote Desktop Connection in XP Pro. That one feature made upgrading worthwhile. Sans that, i'd still be on 2000 and happy.

Just because MS/Apple/IBM releases it doesn't mean I have to use it simply due to its existence.

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Stevan Veselinovic — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:21:26 GMT

Nominate.... who wants to be nominated?

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jcwelch — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:23:50 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

Maurits wrote:because installing new software costs money and time - unless the benefit of the new features outweigh the cost to purchase and deploy, companies and users will stick with what they have

So, how can we break new ground on that issue Maurits, and help companies realize the value of moving forward off legacy MS technology and start adopting the new stuff successfully? How can we help solve the the sore points on transitioning to new Microsoft technology, but most of all "see" the "benefits of it"?

It is most obvious that Microsoft's old products continue to be their worst enemy, from Office to Win-Desktop/Server.

And I said it before and I will say it again, Piracy. Let company's start activating their software.

And companies in a high security environment will stop buying MS software. I fail to see why MS needs any sort of contact at all with every computer in my company just so they're happy that I'm not a pirate.

If we FORCE activation over the IntarWeb...

Will MS pay for my increased bandwidth charges and needs? No

Will MS recompense me for time wasted activating a thousand or so pieces of software n times a year? No

Will this even begin to stop piracy? Hardly

Activation works in a very specific set of circumstances, but it's hardly a panacea.

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ChrisChance — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:43:17 GMT

I could only nominated the following people

Paul Thurrott
Steven Bink
Ryan Hoffman

Those guys have always been there saying what i believe to be great ideas there are some others but they are definiettly on game to give some of the best criticism and since there pretty widely known im sure they also get a good feel for what everyone else is thinking longhorn should be.

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me — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:47:31 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

I have been preaching, lets think globally, lets think about the people who are not interested that much in Windows but use it just for the basic stuff, lets move them from the basics to the potentials.

The questions have still not been answered:

Why are some companies just deploying Windows 2000?
Why are some companies just deploying Windows XP? Windows XP was released almost 5 years ago, why are they just now choosing to deploy?
Whats up with inertia?
Why a fair amount of users still are on 98?
Why are schools still stuck on 98 and Office 2000?
I want to know the mystery behind "its good enough", "it just works", "if it ain't broke, why fix it?"

Microsoft cannot meet the needs of all, but they can set revolutionary standards that end up being accepted by everyone.

Microsoft just needs to try new ideas - like they did with 3 degrees ( what happened to that?) Apart form an Acid pizza pocket UI - it was NEW

That was a great meme for connected "new" stuff
* Me * Windows * You = 3 degrees

There is so much you could do..
Perhaps even just re-tooling existing technologies for better market penetration

Take - for example - office.

We all have Office - we all know Office. Many people do not want office to change. This effects design desicions ( peeving off users) where you cannot be completely consistant across the suite due to past design issues

Solution?

Re-tool - Release 3 Degrees Office (or similar new sounding name - yes; this means: "Office Classic" - deal with it Edit: "Office Original"

Perhaps the UI is more like MS Office for Mac
Perhaps its a best of breeed for the best implimentations of shared features ( these id like to vote on!)

As far as Windows goes - what happened to OLE? Why is there no "Global Page" that toolbars interact / come and go from?

If Im running Corel / Photoshop - and get documents in Word and Outlook with info to re-do - why cant I have a one page metaphor on my entire screen ( sort of like the Mac GUI - if done CORRECTLY.

For ISPs - where is an MS monitary "Page Points" system? - Portal content should be free to an extent - but people balk at paying. Where is MS with a credit/point system that provides ISPs users the ability to apply more points - say to free video - than to extra weather - or more photo storage - and no content at all ( if user doesnt use the content)

For users that enjoy content and app services - well - they can easily use up "Points" and it is applied to their ISP bill

In the Blogging space - where is a localized blogging infrastructure? Why - when we have Windows - and powerful home/biz machines - are all services from MS web based? You want to beat Google? Get your distributed family blog/portal networks running from home pcs- using the power client side. (including "asp passport - free and the live photo upload thing you use on MSN) *MSN Webmessenger thread on C9 = 140k views - DO IT! [y]

How about themes. I am a graphic designer and I am not smart enough to make a tuner theme and or XP theme. These were designed to be complex - when there is only a few important things most users would want to change. Rip out the Windows Media colour adjuster - and add it to the FP 2003 border/ shadow maker - make the headers and main butons easy to change and voila: 20 times the Xp and media skins avail.,

As another example - why am I building a new blog - that i already know the editor sucks - so everything I add to it - I will not no how to migrate to a STANDARD system? Where is the MS Blog / family portal / photogallery DB and site that will NOT break on new upgrades? Whos code base will not disappear due to OSS infighting and takeovers?

Who can I trust? Where is MS?
(*and why dont my winthemes work with my winblog!

There is so much you can do - so little time!
(im late..im late for a very..

In closing: Longhorn theme song should be:
America is waiting - Brian Eno/David Byrne - My Life In the Bush of Ghosts

"America is waiting for an answer of some sort or another.. I made a mistake - I made a mistake - I may have been wrong but I made a mistake..."

*showcasing auto healing - listening to customers - less activation ....etc etc...

The "Humble" roll-out

* i probably shouldnt have posted this in this thread - as it will get lost - Ill re-post on my blog as well ahh - i made a mistake hooray!

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Michael Griffiths — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:51:33 GMT

Please note several things:

One: Simply having a history of "evangilizing" Microsoft products means nothing. Nothing, nada, zilch.

Two: Working amoung computers (developer/etc) means nothing. It might actually hurt you. Team99 is not about how much of a Microsoft supporter you are; oh, no, not at all.

Three: Having a blog is crucial. Do not nominate yourself if you do not believe in blogging... or actually, if you don't have a blog. Yes, you can quite possible start a blog if you get chose, but blogs are critical for narrowing down the selection proecess (or perhaps something similar; I imagine forum posts, particularily on Channel9, could work).

Four: Nominating yourself isn't necessarily bad, it's just nowhere near as good as receiving a nomination. Really. Now, in some sense there's a trade-off - people who nominate themselves might be more self-motivated - but I'd wager nominations are likely to be far above a small limit of 20, so that is a secondary choice. Really. Then, the goal here is to find people who can communicate effectively... and notorious bloggers can, obviouly.

I'll write up what I want in a Team99 members later, when I'm quite a bit less exhausted. But please, for those of you posting after this, note these "guidelines".

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me — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:52:07 GMT

id like to chime in on the Paul thurott and Bink nominees - yes!

PT is not a shill people.. how many times have you gotten useful info off one of his sites - same for steve - who's a great guy - useful site

+ Let us not forget the guys at Winbeta

Maybe its time to reward all the people who have reported about you - that niche?

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Tommy4 — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:54:29 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Tommy: I'll take the process to the next step sometime in the next week.

Thanks

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DoomBringer — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:55:21 GMT

Pick me! I have a blog (fearmattdotcom.blogspot.com)! I'm a super-awesome developer!
Heh, in all seriousness, I think the A-list bloggers should get in (at least a few).

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Stevan Veselinovic — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:58:10 GMT

I nominate Jake Good.

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chriscustom — Wed, 04 May 2005 06:59:09 GMT

steven bink and ryan hoffman tom warren

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eyeOfChaos — Wed, 04 May 2005 07:29:38 GMT

Scobleizer, I like you. How was it you wiggled your way onto my blog feeds in the first place? It must of been your pasty white guy nonthreatening and inviting appearance I think. I nominate everyone in the universe, man, woman, child, beast.

On the other hand, you need me. Not for this project though. I tell you this more as a coutesy than an advertisement. I am the lead on a project that is taking a flank position to outmaneuver MS for territory on the desktop PC, among other things. I have a lot going for me at the moment (extremely so), so I would need a lot. Just being honest. I can do a lot for your company and this is your one chance to woo me. If I am ignored or brushed off, I do have a tendency to become extremely bitter and competitive. Again, just being honest. Let me know what you have to offer.

P.S. Anyone interested in my OS project can contact me.

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DCMonkey — Wed, 04 May 2005 09:19:14 GMT

I nominate Susan Bradley (http://msmvps.com/bradley/), a blogger, MVP, and prominent and respected member of the MS Small Business Server community.

That community and it's collective knowledge and insight is a primary reason that our business decided to switch to SBS 2003 from our "legacy" server platform.

I would find immense value in her take on MS's plans for the Windows platform.

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Jachin — Wed, 04 May 2005 09:23:08 GMT

I nominate myself...cos I'm an aussie and that must count for something....... and I have a blog http://blog.hfws.net/jacob

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jinath — Wed, 04 May 2005 10:10:35 GMT

On behalf of Sri Lankan community I nominate MVP merill
he is our .net lead

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BrianSlack — Wed, 04 May 2005 10:49:07 GMT

I nominate my mum, she does not have a blog let alone know what one is but as she is closer to the majority of user she would be perfect. I am sure she will find the blogging, wiki and rss feeds very useful.

Alternativly any of the current leaders in the SuperUser / SuperBlogger stakes will ensure that I, as a developer, will get the operating system I want.

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kLm Feature — Wed, 04 May 2005 11:26:46 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Some factors? Are they trusted by the community? Are they visible? Do you think they'd give good feedback on your behalf to Microsoft? Some requirements I have? All members must be bloggers.

Another requirement? Must be passionate and authoritative about computers.

Only bloggers? This is a big mistake that Microsoft will do!
Who is the most passionate and authoritative about computers? Bloggers? I don't think so.
Who receive the most and good feedback from people? Bloggers? And again, I don't think so.

Blogger are good, but not the only ones and the best!

Microsoft should pick up some visual styles and wallpapers designers and I nominate the follow ones:

StefanKa - visual style designer - stefanka.deviantart.com
Kol (Francisco Javier) - visual style designer - www.studiotwentyeight.com
Americanpsycho (Brad Cover) - wallpaper designer - americanpsycho.deviantart.com
Kalphegor (Lucian Marin) - wallpaper designer - www.lucmar.com

If Team 99 is the team that'll take us to Longhorn's launch, then it must include them too!

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Chris_S — Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:59 GMT

Barry Fox

http://www.vnunet.com/comment/1162659

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wolfman224 — Wed, 04 May 2005 12:10:24 GMT

I would volunteer, having read all the 4 points made about what you are looking for.

I have 27 years industry experience looking at products and implementing

Currently a K12 Director of Technology - in touch with a large market

MSDN member for the last 8 years

Professional photographer

Write a weekly tech column

Run a Blog - educating the future...

Paul

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rlobrecht — Wed, 04 May 2005 12:24:58 GMT

You're looking for women, how about Lora Heiny? She's a great evangalist for Tablet PCs.

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payforplay — Wed, 04 May 2005 12:38:55 GMT

Great idea ! Does Microsoft plan to pay people for spending their time promoting / testing/ supporting their product line ? The old scam that people would spend unpaid hours promoting and supporting Microsoft products and releases for ZERO dollars is quite stale and quite transparent.

In an earlier time when it was a win/win scenario for organizations to support microsoft this model made sense. In todays environment of commodity OS availability, and in view of Microsofts past behaviour this model no longer deserves support. If Microsoft wants an army of promoters, testers, and technical support people then they should hire and pay them for their time.

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demetz — Wed, 04 May 2005 12:46:33 GMT

Before nominating myself I'd like to give precedence to all people of pluralsight, thinktecture, IDesign and developmentor ... they all are super smart ...

Now, back to me,
I have a blog, at http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/stefandemetz/, to which you linked a couple of times ,am based in Rome -Italy, can cover a part of Europe with German, Italian and English(got educated academically in London, UK) , am harsh in critique (see blog), but fair and constructive, tend to prefer the enterprise side of the windows client(security, reliability, logging etc etc), work as indipendent consultant covering mainly large/multinational co.s as .NET architect, got ties to local usergroups
and at least a spare day a week to commit.
You're welcome to google me up

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vtdarush — Wed, 04 May 2005 12:53:36 GMT

I'm most likely not like the other bloggers nominated for Team 99, and that's a good thing.

Not to diminish contributions of others, but I think I can bring something to the table that others can't--I'm not a technology nut. I don't revolve my life around technology. I make technology, as appropriate, weave into my daily life.

I'll show perspective from everyday users; how the normal "average" guy buying a Dell can lasso Longhorn and create a stunning experience for his gaming, music, and video needs.

As I alluded to, I am a blogger. I'm at www.trickakissintime.com Check me out, and check out my style. I think I can make a flow that'd be pretty darn revealing and fun.

Oh, and I used to be a developer, so I'm fairly well-versed on the technical side too. I just think talking in techno blah blah blah gets ordinary and predictable. So let's branch out!

--Jamie

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Diabolus — Wed, 04 May 2005 13:07:53 GMT

Nominate the Neowin Staff. Lots of good info there and they are always pretty accurate and not always complimentary. I only look at that as a positive for them.

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Powerless — Wed, 04 May 2005 13:20:18 GMT

Admittedly I joined today to hopefully be apart of Team 99. I might as well nominate myself and I doubt none of you will know me. But I can be found on a few forums around the web helping people with their computer problems. I am Windows enthusiast and have recently set up simplyguides.net for a new way of helping people.

I am honest in anything I say and I wouldn't be afraid to tell you exactly what I think.

Well there you go!

Chris.

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Jemaho — Wed, 04 May 2005 13:34:50 GMT

I nominate 2 people:

- Stanimir Stoyanov a.k.a Stan_Fisher for all the things he find in Longhorn 4074: Aero theme, Sticky Notes and a lot of others making him for his young age one of the most talented developer I ever met...

-Me, Jemaho, for all the efforts I put on rendering as good as possible the DWM effects and "themes" for Windows XP in the DWM trilogy especially with the transparent taskbar trick...

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djohn — Wed, 04 May 2005 13:50:30 GMT

Hello guys,

I'm also new to the forum, joined today after a recommendation from Powerless. I've known Powerless for just over three years now and come to respect not only his work, but his enthusiasm in helping other people to gain the best from their computers, both hardware & software.

Powerless has his own site devoted to self-help guides which can be accessed/downloaded in many formats including video and PDF. He has already put his name forward, I would like to add my name to second his application.

I also belong to several help forums, currently on the Admin staff at a well known and established forum. Please feel free to PM me if you require any details of this for verification.

So, there we go, Powerless is a well respected and very knowledgeable person across various operating systems, well practised in writing easy to follow guides on Windows in particular, and last but not least, very passionate to test - learn and then pass on new technology.

Regards to all. dj.

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Ryan Hoffman — Wed, 04 May 2005 14:01:38 GMT

I'd like to thank everyone who nominated me and Steven Bink!

Although this is already on page 10+, I'd like to make my nomination: Paul Mooney (C9 Username: Eagle)

If you read Scoble's blog, you'd see that Paul actually called Scoble and tried to make sure that Team 99 had many 64-bit computer users on it.

In my opinion, Paul gets this stuff better then anyone here. Paul is a developer, a blogger, and he knows where Longhorn needs to be. Most importantly, Paul is a real nice guy who would be a valuable asset to Team 99.

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lobsterman — Wed, 04 May 2005 14:12:25 GMT

How about the Associate Experts group created by Microsoft during the XP beta?

Many of them are seasoned veterans of the Microsoft beta programs with years of real world experience.

They are not all bloggers, but you won't find a much better group to evangelize Longhorn than the folks still active in that community.

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Byron_Hinson — Wed, 04 May 2005 14:36:43 GMT

I'd like to recommend someone from the activewin.com team (not myself) as they have worked on Windows news and unbias views for 8 years, more than many sites and people out there. Comments have always been given on what they think of how things are being done at Microsoft and in the Windows world. Seems a good start.

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jdgx — Wed, 04 May 2005 14:40:34 GMT

I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott
Tom Warren

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junkie_doo — Wed, 04 May 2005 15:13:19 GMT

I'd nominate Burak Bayburtlu not only because he has a passion for software technologies, but also he is really interested in new operating system technologies.

Personally i find him truthfuly objective and constructive about his judgements.

Besides of all, I believe that newer technologies should be tested and critised by newer voices in the industry. This way, the mono-voice would depreciate and communities would have a chance to hear more variaty of thoughts from all over the world.

Technologies are not developed for single purposes. If a wider variaty of people get a chance to express their experiences, more of the industry would be able to have a peek at "in the first sight of ..." articles, blog entries etc.

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fastfat — Wed, 04 May 2005 15:19:27 GMT

Think in European and new markets. In Spain Ethek & friend’s team is a good example http://www.ethek.com the oldest Windows online magazine in Spanish, 7 years old, all the team are MVPS and of course 64-bits

Enric Llopart Windows Shell User MVP ethek@ethek.com
Alex Solano .Net MVP asolano@ethek.com
Jaime Ferre Windows Shell User MVP webmaster@ethek.com

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treeorc — Wed, 04 May 2005 15:24:12 GMT

I think it is always a good idea to have super users involved in this type of testing however, I also think it expedient to include a few knowledgable though at the home level types of persons who enjoy and work with computers at a more social level. I'm one of those guys and I can help you. I am currently working on my degree in information technology and the advantage I have is that I am free lance and work on computers for users who are at the point of frustration from viruses or lack of maintenance. Some of the things I've seen are unbelievable and I spend a lot of this time upgrading from 98, ME, or 2000 to XP. I can tell you that these people love XP too. Anyway, I am no super human on these things, but I manage and I am in a lot of homes and see what is going on.

Thanks

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chingling — Wed, 04 May 2005 16:35:11 GMT

Hi, I'm from Brazil and I liked to nominate myself

Thanks

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MindCrime726 — Wed, 04 May 2005 16:46:09 GMT

I agree compleatly with treeorc. It is my understanding that this is to get a well rounded group of people to test out the product. I myself work for a Tec company and work at a major corporation but also do some freelance support. I know what the average user is looking for in an OS. If it is true that you are looking for a well rounded group of testers I would love to volunteer.

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ImSkizzer — Wed, 04 May 2005 16:47:06 GMT

The guys over on this site....
www.uxevolutions.info
And myself...

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ImSkizzer — Wed, 04 May 2005 17:04:08 GMT

I second this nomination as well....
150%!!
All these guys have good reputations in the community I frequent.

larney_beta wrote:

ImSkizzer wrote: The guys over on this site....
www.uxevolutions.info
And myself...

ReflectiaX
Tom Warren (creamhackered)
Paul Thurrott
Stephen Bink
Chris Holmes (Chris123NT)
Harrison Hoffman

Would be my suggestions. All show a great interest, knowledge and enthusiasm about Longhorn. All are also damn good at staying under NDA's

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ChrisL — Wed, 04 May 2005 17:11:25 GMT

I would nominate Thurrott, Prillio, and Bink as three that really should be there. I think by now it's kind of implied by most that they should be a part of this.

-Chris Lanier
http://www.msmvps.com/chrisl

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amado — Wed, 04 May 2005 17:55:06 GMT

Hi guys,
I would nominate
Paul Thurrott of winsupersite
Tom Warren of Neowin
Steven Bink of Bink
if you are interested in any blogger from overseas, Egypt for example, I am here , I have been ms loyal beta tester for office 2k3, vs .net 2k3,2k5, sql 2k5 and virtual pc...since 2k2 and I work at the top IT company in Egypt (ITWorx)

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Jemaho — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:01:07 GMT

Sorry to bring back news of days ago but I just crossed them now, Creamhackered, sorry to dissapoint you but we still exist, we are just undergoing a domain renewal which should be fixed in the following hours...

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desdemona — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:06:31 GMT

I nominate Bruno Capuano (El Bruno)
brunocapuano@msn.com

Bye..

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KarelDonk — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:08:48 GMT

Details of how team 99 members would participate in this are not very clear, but it sounds interesting.

I'm not going to n0m1nate myself, but I'd like to point out my website at http://www.miraesoft.com/karel which you can check out, and if you like what you see there, you can nominate me.

I'd like to nominate Steven Bink and his developer friend.

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lars — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:27:11 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Are they trusted by the community? Are they visible? Do you think they'd give good feedback on your behalf to Microsoft? Some requirements I have? All members must be bloggers.

I nominate Jimmy Nilsson and Dag König

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Andre Da Costa — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:43:13 GMT

You people should check out what Paul Thurrott had to say about Team 99, its not encouraging:

http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthurrott/Article/ArticleID/46271/windowspaulthurrott_46271.html

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TwoTailedFox — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:47:48 GMT

I don't think he realised just why Bloggers are being picked.

Bloggers have a big online presence with Enthusiasts. If that can be used to promote Longhorn, it's as sound a strategy, as any.

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constatc — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:49:07 GMT

Speaking for the Small Business community, you know us ants that are finally getting some attention these days, how about Susan Bradley. She is a super user, passionate advocate of technology in our space and a prolific blogger. She is well connected with our community and her opinion carries a lot of weight with independent IT consultants like me.

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TwoTailedFox — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:56:29 GMT

Hey All, I'm somewhat new to this site (followed a link, after all), but I do have three nominations:

Paul Thurrott
Jose Francisco
Myself

I'll explain my reasons.

I've come to like Paul's methodic way of writing an article, as well as providing useful nuggets of information.

Jose is involved on TechConnect and GameConnect, as well as having his own XP-Related website, XP Source. He knows his stuff.

I'm nominating myself, because I think I'd add some useful ideas and suggestions as a 'New Face'. I'm 18 (19 in June), and I represent the Student and Young Adult segments of the Industry (As well as the PowerUser and Enthusiast ones, too), specifially in the UK.

I have no objection to signing an NDA (Why give bits about LH away, when you can make the masses drool in anticipation?), and

With regards to being Passionate and Authorative on Computers... I've spent close to 12 years working with them, my first experience being Windows 3.1, and MS-DOS 6.0. I also have a Wiki set up on Wikicities as a Computing Knowledgebase. With regards to experience with Windows Operating Systems, I've used most of them, and I've even Beta tested a few MS Products (Windows XP SP2, and Windows 2003 R2, for example), as well as installing and learning about a multitude of other Microsoft software through the Customer Preview Program (Windows XP Pro x64 Edition, and Visual Studio 2003 .NET, for example).

I do write my own blog, having now settled on MSN Spaces for it's location. Only recently set up, mind you, but I do plan to have my blog cover Computing-related Items.

I am well aware I'm practically an Unknown in circles like these, but I tend to think a few 'Unknowns' in the mix are just what is needed, to add a dash of life into a project such as this (And remember, the more diversified the test group, the more angles to look at Longhorn, and the more useful the criticism becomes)

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Jose Francisco — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:57:41 GMT

Thank you, TwoTailedFox You would also make a good addition to Team 99

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Hobbes — Wed, 04 May 2005 19:17:24 GMT

why not some big gun nominees like :

Steve Gillmor
Jon Udell
Dave Winer
MIke Gunderloy

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tcrichard — Wed, 04 May 2005 20:32:09 GMT

My vote goes for Bob Stein over at ActiveWin...

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harrisonh1 — Wed, 04 May 2005 20:33:36 GMT

ImSkizzer wrote:

I second this nomination as well....
150%!!
All these guys have good reputations in the community I frequent.

larney_beta wrote:

ImSkizzer wrote: The guys over on this site....
www.uxevolutions.info
And myself...

ReflectiaX
Tom Warren (creamhackered)
Paul Thurrott
Stephen Bink
Chris Holmes (Chris123NT)
Harrison Hoffman

Would be my suggestions. All show a great interest, knowledge and enthusiasm about Longhorn. All are also damn good at staying under NDA's

Thanks for the nominations! I really think that I could do a great job of representing those advanced users who do not have a voice in Longhorn's development.

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WebZoner — Wed, 04 May 2005 20:40:19 GMT

I nominate

neowin.net
winbeta.org

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scepterr — Wed, 04 May 2005 20:59:10 GMT

My vote goes for Steven Bink, whos work ive been following for quite some time now, and Ryan Hoffman who I know personally and think would make a great contribution to Team 99.

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Renken — Wed, 04 May 2005 20:59:16 GMT

I nominate myself Eric Renken. I am a developer and I think a "super user". I have written for ASP Alliance and I am very passionate about computers and how they work for me. I will defiantly speak my mind on what I don’t like. I am not a big blogger at this time, as I don’t have anything really to blog about, but I with Longhorn I will have lots to talk about, as long as it doesn’t violate a NDA.

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jose67 — Wed, 04 May 2005 21:17:16 GMT

I obviously nominate myself, as I would like to contribute to the development of Longhorn and provide feedback and anything that I'm presented with!

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mrkon — Wed, 04 May 2005 21:31:50 GMT

I think what Longhorn needs most right now is a hugely improved UI. They need to revolutionize usability and get rid of those ugly gradients that seems to plague all their new windows (like WMP). Sure, it may look futuristic, but it just doesn't 'look' efficient.

Most consumers won't really care that much about all the backend core improvements, they'll be looking for something that will improve their experience in the immediate short term.

Just make sure someone that's going to be on Team 99 addresses this and I'll be happy.

Google and Apple are becoming huge forces in the computing community because of the revolutionary 'simple' interfaces and innovations. Longhorn needs to get a move on this if it wants to be successful.

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jcwelch — Wed, 04 May 2005 22:04:54 GMT

jamie wrote:

id like to chime in on the Paul thurott and Bink nominees - yes!

PT is not a shill people.. how many times have you gotten useful info off one of his sites - same for steve - who's a great guy - useful site

+ Let us not forget the guys at Winbeta

Maybe its time to reward all the people who have reported about you - that niche?

Have you ever read what Thurrot calls "analysis" of things that are not windows or of MS?

He's a shill. If he was any more of a shill, he'd be Rob Enderle.

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Shmuelpro — Wed, 04 May 2005 22:09:34 GMT

jcwelch wrote:

jamie wrote: id like to chime in on the Paul thurott and Bink nominees - yes!

PT is not a shill people.. how many times have you gotten useful info off one of his sites - same for steve - who's a great guy - useful site

+ Let us not forget the guys at Winbeta

Maybe its time to reward all the people who have reported about you - that niche?

Have you ever read what Thurrot calls "analysis" of things that are not windows or of MS?

He's a shill. If he was any more of a shill, he'd be Rob Enderle.

yea all the time check out his blog here

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Buddhike.de.Silva — Wed, 04 May 2005 22:12:00 GMT

Why not me ??????????????

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mrkon — Wed, 04 May 2005 22:32:07 GMT

Shmuelpro wrote:

jcwelch wrote:

jamie wrote: id like to chime in on the Paul thurott and Bink nominees - yes!

PT is not a shill people.. how many times have you gotten useful info off one of his sites - same for steve - who's a great guy - useful site

+ Let us not forget the guys at Winbeta

Maybe its time to reward all the people who have reported about you - that niche?

Have you ever read what Thurrot calls "analysis" of things that are not windows or of MS?

He's a shill. If he was any more of a shill, he'd be Rob Enderle.

yea all the time check out his blog here

how annoying, he just regurgitates news. no real insight whatsoever.

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sohamroy — Wed, 04 May 2005 22:58:28 GMT

I like to be in it

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llarsen — Wed, 04 May 2005 23:30:57 GMT

I would love to be included.

Larry Larsen

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tiagolorga — Wed, 04 May 2005 23:53:55 GMT

I would love to be involved in Team99! I'm a huge fan of beta trials and I am so expectating about longhorn that i just can't wait 'till 2006!!

Put my name on it, you can trust me!

Tiago Lorga

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Andre Da Costa — Thu, 05 May 2005 00:27:34 GMT

All the persons nominated so far are popular Windows Enthusiast. Can you believe it? A few unknowns have been nominated but are outshadowed by the popular persons in the Windows Enthusiast community which is a shame.

I was hoping to see more cultural diversity and new faces on the scene who definitely have a say in all aspects of Windows from development to just regular users of the product.

I still hope we can break new ground and find knowledgeable people yes, but not "Windows Freaks". Some persons here who are getting nominated are also known as Windows opportunist. I would strongly recommend Robert Scoble stick to the "individual" which is derived from the blog itself. Some persons are looking at this as a chance to break new ground for their website and have a field day which will not substantiate the purpose of Team 99, which is to make Longhorn a great release. I myself am guilty of nominating a majority of the popular persons in the Windows Community. Please forget about who I have nominated so far, I am starting a clean slate and look through this thread again for some true passionate individuals.

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kjacobsen — Thu, 05 May 2005 00:36:59 GMT

Well this is certainly an interesting thread. I would like to also nominate Steven Bink over at bink.nu.

I would also like to see some of the Student Ambassadors/Champs from the UK/Australia/Asia/US. Having a student involved would be great. Hence, as a Student Ambassador and a blogger, I would love to be involved. Reaching out to students would be a great achivement and further Microsoft's position on campus.

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Tommy4 — Thu, 05 May 2005 00:38:07 GMT

If nothing else I believe you and everyone else are seeing that there are a lot of normal users that want to help that normally dont get the chance. To be involved in a large project at the ground floor. After reviewing the list of people that want to be involved I believe you will need a strong few (maybe 1/4 - 1/2) that can lead and keep the team focused and in the correct direction. The biggest thing you want to ensure does not happen is when it gets hard or heaven forbid boring that the newbies dont leave and allow this project to fail.

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APoff — Thu, 05 May 2005 00:39:04 GMT

Ok, I know I've only been here less then 15 minutes, and this is my first post. However, I have several points to make before you totally disregard me, please.

I've been using Windows since version 3.1, and have used 95 a/b/c, 98/98SE, and XP. I've also used several versions of Mac OS, and Linux. I know what I like and dislike about each, and (as for now) I think I prefer Linux.

As for development experiance, I've programmed in GW-BASIC, Q-BASIC, Visual Basic, C, C++, Visual C++, HTML, XHTML, XML, and Java. I've messed with other languages, but I don't think they qualify as full knowledge. My specialties are User Interface Design and Algorithmics.

I would like to bring to Windows Longhorn a feel that is overall cleaner, as opposed to the XP "Play-doh" look. Also, simpler navigation could be accomplished.

Please, don't get me wrong. XP was a step in the right direction, but, permitting, I'd like to help take Longhorn a step farther.

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Biggie — Thu, 05 May 2005 01:21:30 GMT

[I'd secondly like to re-nominate Andre, a student from Jamacia who blogs almost entirely about Longhorn related news from some of the other large press sites. [/quote]

I 2nd, 3rd, or 4th it. not sure how many has agree but he is grabing the Horns and holding on in his spaces.

Biggie

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Biggie — Thu, 05 May 2005 01:33:12 GMT

Overdo wrote:

I'd secondly like to re-nominate Andre, a student from Jamacia who blogs almost entirely about Longhorn related news from some of the other large press sites. As has been mentioned already by a few posters, readers don't neccesarily want to see the same big names on the team, for example Tom Warren, Paul Thurrot, Steve Bink etc and I for one believe Andre would be a great addition.

Andre has a great spaces. Has good taste in blogging tools. He got a hold on the horns just let him out in the china shop.

Biggie

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jsrfc58 — Thu, 05 May 2005 01:56:57 GMT

APoff wrote:

I would like to bring to Windows Longhorn a feel that is overall cleaner, as opposed to the XP "Play-doh" look.

Someday, they might add more "looks". Although I think something like a "Salvador Dali" skin/look might upset the relatives:

Original:

Windows theme:

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Shaded — Thu, 05 May 2005 01:57:57 GMT

Read my blog. (click to the left) Then you'll nominate me for sure.

Of particular interest:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/shaded/Blog/cns!1pcUVdsqGjzbPov5sh3Flrdw!259.entry

http://spaces.msn.com/members/shaded/Blog/cns!1pcUVdsqGjzbPov5sh3Flrdw!244.entry

http://spaces.msn.com/members/shaded/Blog/cns!1pcUVdsqGjzbPov5sh3Flrdw!248.entry

and

http://spaces.msn.com/members/shaded/Blog/cns!1pcUVdsqGjzbPov5sh3Flrdw!208.entry

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Shaded — Thu, 05 May 2005 03:34:08 GMT

Shaded wrote:

Read my blog. (click to the left) Then you'll nominate me for sure.

or... not.

I got a couple dozen hits in the first few minutes from that post. Thats cool even without a nominations. Oh and if you ARE reading my blog be sure to look at the comments on "We choose our heroes".

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jsrfc58 — Thu, 05 May 2005 03:37:58 GMT

How about somebody unbiased and intergalactic? He has a blog, too.

http://darthside.blogspot.com/

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jinath — Thu, 05 May 2005 03:52:23 GMT

Hope at least 1 Sri Lankan guy will be in team 99.

I nominated merill earlier.
sad thing is in the Avatar crating tool in channel 9 there is no Sri Lanka in country dropdown

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kaliya — Thu, 05 May 2005 04:10:43 GMT

So, it is with great surprise that I nominate myself. I do so only because Robert directly - in e-mail suggest that I do so. I am an avid Mac user. My first computer was and IBM think pad but I never 'bonded' with it. I am now on my second Mac. I am 'identity woman,' well at least that is the title of my blog discussing Identity 2.0 - http://www.identitywoman.net. Throught this work I have had the great opportunity to learn from and hang out with the very lovely Kim Cameron - the cheif identity architech from Microsoft. He is doing great stuff and 'we' the peoples identity folks are conversing with him about because the windows desktop is a key place for good to emerge in the next generation of peoples identity. I am passionate about the potential that computers have to transform the world - empowering people and communities in life serving ways (I am the program director at Planetwork http://ww.planetwork.net). I am also mad at microsoft for the lack of interoperability they create in the world. I have been watching the press talk about the tech industry and have been troubled by the 'ego' wars going on between Eisner and Steve, Steve and Bill, etc. Why? I just want this stuff to work and make my life better I could care less about 'raising the bridge' [Doc can tell you the meaning of that]. I am glad Team 99 is forming to have a market conversation. Hopefully I can bring a unique perspective as a woman mac user. I was born and raised in Vancouver, Canada so I know route 99 .

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Shaded — Thu, 05 May 2005 04:42:19 GMT

kaliya wrote:

...I have been watching the press talk about the tech industry and have been troubled by the 'ego' wars going on between Eisner and Steve, Steve and Bill, etc. Why? I just want this stuff to work and make my life better I could care less about 'raising the bridge' ...

Well put!

Did I mention my first computer was an Apple //e? I'm on my second Apple and my first Mac with my mini.

As inspired by Kaliya I'd like to nominate myself too.

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spyonsky — Thu, 05 May 2005 07:00:42 GMT

Inspired by all the people, I would also like to nominate myself

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mohennessey — Thu, 05 May 2005 07:09:56 GMT

Mhi wrote:

I would nominate the following.

Paul Thurrott Andre Da Costa
James Proud This guy too
Tom Warren

I couldn't agree more with you suggesting Tom Warren from neowin.net. It's a lovely, resourceful, unbiased website with a very large audience. If Microsoft plans to use a networking-type of communication with its end users and developers theres no better alternative than neowin.

Paul's site is decent. It has the large audience which is key, but aside from being biased it lacks the feedback which other blog sites have.

Anyway, Tom Warren from neowin gets my vote.

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Ytterbium — Thu, 05 May 2005 08:13:39 GMT

Chris P I'd say.

Thinking abit more I'd have Bink & Tom W as well.

for some Skinning people what about Vort[x] or Windows X (WinX is in Thailand as well)

I wouldn't have Paul T, though as he'd probally be involved anyway.

I would be really cool to get some mac and/or Linux/BSD bloggers, I don't know anytho?

I though of a good Mac rep could be Anand Lal Shimpi from anandtech he say's he's a regualr PC & Mac user and his reviews of mac stuff alway seem pritty level headded.

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larney_beta — Thu, 05 May 2005 09:16:33 GMT

ImSkizzer wrote:

The guys over on this site....
www.uxevolutions.info
And myself...

ReflectiaX
Tom Warren (creamhackered)
Paul Thurrott
Stephen Bink
Chris Holmes (Chris123NT)
Harrison Hoffman
Ryan Hoffman
(Don't think Harrison and Ryan are related but who knows)

Would be my suggestions. All show a great interest, knowledge and enthusiasm about Longhorn. All are also damn good at staying under NDA's

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geeklady — Thu, 05 May 2005 09:46:49 GMT

I'd like to represent the residential users of the world.

http://www.mcemvp.us/bbowman/
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx

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PAULCAUSTON — Thu, 05 May 2005 11:43:50 GMT

iS IT POSSIBLE TO NOMINATE ONE-SELF? I am a blogger in london. I trained as a programmer and am a heavy computer user....My blog is My Life in a Bush of Ghosts. and if you can't find it for yourself I would not want to work with you anyway...paulcauston@msn.com ...Thanks...

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build2600 — Thu, 05 May 2005 12:03:30 GMT

I'm not gonna add to an already exhaustive (& abhorrent) self nomination list. I have some great, genuine ideas but since I haven't been in the blogging scene (not yet, and still months away from it) I realize that the best way I can get my thoughts reach the right people (Jim Allchin, you listening?) it would be best I nominate the much bigger fishes who can publish my ideas to a much larger and more important audience than I could do. I mean; after all the objective behind Team99 is to have a excellent product much more than a self promotion campaign.

My recommendations ...
Steven Bink/Ryan Hoffman. Bink.nu is one of the best sources on Microsoft / Microsoft Technology news.
Tom Warren. Not a Blogger per se. But Neowin.NET is a HUGE community which cannot be ignored and creamhackered is the best known face there.
Paul Thurrott. Hmm who is he? Well I know there's probably no need to mention him, he would be a default entrant, but nobody wants a Florida recount!

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sbc — Thu, 05 May 2005 12:15:24 GMT

This is the longest thread on C9 now.

Perhaps the groups needs to be bigger than 20 when you see the amount of responses? You need a good mix of people, and 20 may not be enough to get the best feedback - of course you would need several rooms then.

A few popular bloggers, and those less well known are needed. You don't want too many who love Microsoft and fail to see bad points, but also you don't want some that are blatantly anti-Microsoft.

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androidi — Thu, 05 May 2005 12:46:44 GMT

Let it be known that I disagree with some of the popular nominations here on these grounds:

Many of the proposed people are already very much in the "wohoo LH finally comes and I gonna write every scoop I get about it" community. These people get the scoop anyway!

I would much rather see some creative thinking here and nominate people from large online communities that have less to do with Windows and more to do with what the people from those communities need and use Windows for.

Of course there IS a risk that the guys from such diverse communities are not so excited about the bling bling, but more about what the OS can do in their respective areas of needs and applications in the near future. It would be major win to get those possibly conservative communities out there excited about what the future platform advances can make possible for their respective environment. I think this is the "long tail" of Windows users and Team 99 doesn't really target that in any way.

Robert did mention there will be other groups. I am sure many people even just here are part of many of the "long tail" communities and can provide some guidance of how to specify these and find their respective "authoritative" people.

Of course it could get somewhat expensive to fly thousand people to visit Redmond but that money can be taken from the huge marketing budget!

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msemack — Thu, 05 May 2005 13:38:28 GMT

I'm sure my post will get lost in the noise here...

However, I'd like to nominate Joel Spolsky (http://www.joelonsoftware.com).

He's a developer, but he's also a usability "guru". He seems to be really good at looking at things from an end-user's perspective.

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Tommy4 — Thu, 05 May 2005 13:40:29 GMT

I fully agree.

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MindSmack — Thu, 05 May 2005 14:17:22 GMT

I nominate myself Online about 14 hours a day.

Yippie!

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steve0bob666 — Thu, 05 May 2005 14:20:22 GMT

alright, well i have an interesting idea.. i'm 15 years old, and one of the biggest windows enthusiasts/"super users" i know.. i think i could bring a rather interesting perspective to the longhorn review

~Steve

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blogster — Thu, 05 May 2005 14:28:22 GMT

I saw Barb Bowman nominated. She definitely should be part of Team99.

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Paul Thurrott — Thu, 05 May 2005 14:30:33 GMT

Not sure about "bloggers," but it would be a crime to not include these people in Team 99:

Barb Bowman (MVP, MS ExpertZone - a true expert)
http://www.mcemvp.us/bbowman/
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx

Steven Bink (Bink.nu)
http://bink.nu/

Tom Warren (Neowin)
http://www.neowin.net/

Bob Stein (ActiveWin)
http://www.activewin.com/

Todd Bishop (Seattle PI)
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/

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Phani — Thu, 05 May 2005 14:39:33 GMT

Have been working with Microsoft TAP champs for Whidbey for past 8 months or so.

Currently implementing legacy migration or to be precise, implementing SOA (facing major issues with transaction handling, basic service design etc)- researching and seeking answers in brainstorming session with my team (I am from Infosys)...

Have developed ready to use frameworks and prescriptive arch guidance for SOA...

I work very close with clients and am involved in day to day challenges when it comes to implementation (current primary focus is whidbey)...

have been to MS Redmond labs for perf testing etc...

I would be delighted to be a part of this team doing this activity.

BTW,
did anyone notice that on a win2k3 machine with DEC CTP whidbey bits(framework), IE 6.0, I try to use ink and the VS.net debugger pop-up is thrown and all IE instances are closed... that was nasty.. I logged in thrice to post this...

of course I did not have the tablet pc sdk and all....but the way its handled is definately no good..

ciao,
-Phani

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smernit — Thu, 05 May 2005 14:41:21 GMT

I'll nominate myself, Mary Hodder, and Anita Wilhelm as smart users...a key component of any team.

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UX Evangelist — Thu, 05 May 2005 15:18:52 GMT

I wasn't going to do this but I'll go ahead and nominate myself. I always make sure to keep abreast on all things related to longhorn. I believe I'd be a good candidate because I invest my own time and money to attend events such as WinHEC, PDC, TechEd, and all the free events MS holds in my hometown.

I'm already very personally dedicated to Microsoft, it's my dream to eventually work for them, so getting to collaborate with this supergroup and spread the word would be the next natural step for me.

Perhaps my greatest attribute is I have a way of conveying technical content to others in a very non-intrusive, easy-to-understand manner. What good is what you're trying to teach and share if you can't get it across to ALL audiences?

This would be the motivation for me to really put my blogging into top gear. Until now, I've blogged here and there but I mostly distribute my thoughts throughout the messageboards of the community. I'm also good friends with Tom Warren from Neowin, I just used some of my content (pics, videos, etc.) along with his on Neowin for WinHEC blogging this year, just to give an example of my distributed presence.

Thanks for your time, I'd really enjoy being taken into consideration for this team. I would most certainly be passionate about it!

-Stephen Chapman aka Ref'X

PS - As a proxy vote, I would most certainly vote Tom Warren, not just because he's a friend but because he's already a source for all things Microsoft by a LOT of people in this community. If you're wanting the word to get out there about ANYTHING, Tom would be the way to go.

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Fiscal Genius — Thu, 05 May 2005 15:19:16 GMT

Based upon his years of supporting Windows and hearing about what issues caused problems for consumers using it, you should include Scott Zuberbier in your list of Longhorn bloggers.

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ashktorab — Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:29 GMT

Hi Scobleizer,

I nominate myself (Mahdi Ashktorab), because I will bring with me the ability to reach out to the youth community. Being only 17 years and having a proficient background on computers, I can test, analyze, and spread the word of Longhorn. I'm also a Windows only user, I like Windows because of its easy user interface, and excellent online capabilities. I also respect Microsoft’s goals and wish to help them progress.

Regards,
Mahdi Ashktorab

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BearyAnn — Thu, 05 May 2005 15:57:23 GMT

I'd like to nominate Reed Porter, a Systems Engineer in Kansas City for St Luke's Hospital. You can check out his blogging at http://www.kccoffeehouse.com/blog/

He is an active participant at the ITForum blog as well.

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jcwelch — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:13:54 GMT

So here's a question that just occured to me:

Is team 99 supposed to provide various forms of input, (technical, usability, etc.)?

Or is it just going to be a group of people to talk about how cool Longhorn is going to be with official sanction from MS.

If you want real input, that's one thing. If you want cheerleading, that's quite another.

Asking because a good chunk of the posts here seem to be by people more interested in the latter than the former. (I didn't say ALL, or even MOST. But a *good chunk*. Relax)

john

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gcnaddict — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:19:16 GMT

jcwelch wrote:

So here's a question that just occured to me:

Is team 99 supposed to provide various forms of input, (technical, usability, etc.)?

Or is it just going to be a group of people to talk about how cool Longhorn is going to be with official sanction from MS.

If you want real input, that's one thing. If you want cheerleading, that's quite another.

Asking because a good chunk of the posts here seem to be by people more interested in the latter than the former. (I didn't say ALL, or even MOST. But a *good chunk*. Relax)

john

Well, there are quite a few cheerleaders whove already taken up that task. The best people for the job of informing the developers/modding community, in my humble opinion, would be Stanimir, Rafael, and of course, me

Tom Warren (again, so long as he doesnt tie his efforts with Neowin) would do a great job informing the public. Paul thurrott... I think not as he has taken the spotlight away from too many other people.

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mrkon — Thu, 05 May 2005 18:18:35 GMT

msemack wrote:

I'm sure my post will get lost in the noise here...

However, I'd like to nominate Joel Spolsky (http://www.joelonsoftware.com).

He's a developer, but he's also a usability "guru". He seems to be really good at looking at things from an end-user's perspective.

I fully agree. I second that nomination.

I would also like to nominate the idea of people stop nominating themselves, it's getting old/annoying.

Ms doesn't just need a "new look" such as themes or skins... it needs a new look that actually adds accessbility/function. having cool/unnecessary window animation/transparencies (which i think LH is going to have) is hardly so.

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JRLiberty76 — Thu, 05 May 2005 20:42:58 GMT

Given that I found this website via a link from MarketWatch.com, I believe that the "nomination" process for Team 99 and creation of a Superuser / Superdeveloper blogger group is a difficult task. 20 people is genuinely a small number; however, the voice of the few can influence the masses when the best voices are heard. Without a doubt, Microsoft needs intelligent, well-spoken, and respected individuals to carry out the respective task(s) to ensure that this is accomplished.

Although I may be a "newbie" to this forum, I cannot call myself a novice when it comes to computers and/or software applications. I have been a user and/or abuser of many Microsoft products since the late 1980's, including, but not limited to:
-- Operating Systems (from MS-DOS through Windows XP, I've seen them all),
-- Office Apps (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access, Publisher, etc.),
-- "Specialty" Apps (Internet Explorer (of course), Project, FrontPage, Money, Works, "Bob," et. al.). If Microsoft released it, I have used it at least once if not thousands of times.

While I doubt I am *unique* for having used every Microsoft product under the sun, I do believe that I am somewhat unique in how I have used them, learned to use them, and, ultimately, my ability to abuse them. My status as a bona fide Power User could be emblazoned across my chest when it comes to computers and applications in general. Technology has been synonymous with productivity in my everyday life -- not only at work but also at home (and in the classroom). I have used PC's in my life since the age of 8 in 1984 with an Apple II computer in my fourth grade classroom. Needless to say, I am wired in many directions today (work and home laptops (both with wireless), home desktop, PDA(s), cell phone(s) with wireless Internet, etc.)

Questions regarding my ability? Allow me to elaborate:
>>Are they trusted by the community? Since I am not a regular member of this community, I am not able to establish trust as easily; however, my record as an individual with product use and development establishes me as a person worthy of your trust. I can assure you of my ability to commit to and to deliver the task at hand.

>>Are they visible? Do you think they'd give good feedback on your behalf to Microsoft? Am I visible in this forum? No, not to date; however, I have been *visible* on the Internet for many years (early 1996 to be exact via my personal web page). I have been blogging since before there was such a thing (summer 1997 to be exact – reference my personal web page from the “old days” if you are interested). I provided critiques of local establishments as well as movie reviews while living in the Houston, TX, area in 1997. I like to be thorough and would provide critical information as needed to Microsoft on the effectiveness / capabilities of their product.

>>All members must be bloggers. As noted, this requirement is covered. I have had been providing online commentary and opinion since 1996/1997 via my personally-designed web pages that were hand-coded in the *dark ages* of HTML.

>> Must be passionate and authoritative about computers.

My interest and desire to have the best operating system(s) and applications available to me has been a passion of mine since Day 1. What is my “authority” on computers? As many of you likely can relate, I am the “go to” guy in my home area, in my work group, and on almost every project I ever touch. I bring technology to the table and make those around me more productive and effective by doing so. My passion for better software in combination with greater processing capabilities that hardware has provided us is in the core of my very being.

I AM your nominee.

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Lapytsh — Thu, 05 May 2005 21:22:30 GMT

I nominate Andre Da Costa and Lapytsh for Team 99

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mrkon — Thu, 05 May 2005 21:59:54 GMT

Lapytsh wrote:

I nominate Andre Da Costa and Lapytsh for Team 99

I nominate Pikachu, Spongebob, and Captain Planet.

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Tommy4 — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:00:21 GMT

JRLiberty76 wrote:

I provided critiques of local establishments as well as movie reviews while living in the Houston, TX, area in 1997. I like to be thorough and would provide critical information as needed to Microsoft on the effectiveness / capabilities of their product.

>>

Where in Houston? This is similar to my background since I also grew up in Houston and still live there now.

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Andre Da Costa — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:12:22 GMT

Ok, new nominations:
Bob Stein - Active Win - out of all the major enthusiast websites, he is the most mature, objective and down to earth person who is popular but at the same time can relay the problems and sore points facing Windows users today. I believe he can bring both knowledge and experience to the table and has proven this daily through activewin, which is more than just a website, but a community dedicated to solving issues that affect Windows Users today. He is not like other persons from other Enthusiast websites who seem to be boats with holes out at sea leaking NDA information every chance they get. So, if you want just one solid person from a popular Windows Enthusiast community, this is it.

Coming up with more soon.

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Andre Da Costa — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:31:05 GMT

mrkon wrote:

msemack wrote: I'm sure my post will get lost in the noise here...

However, I'd like to nominate Joel Spolsky (http://www.joelonsoftware.com).

He's a developer, but he's also a usability "guru". He seems to be really good at looking at things from an end-user's perspective.

I fully agree. I second that nomination.

I would also like to nominate the idea of people stop nominating themselves, it's getting old/annoying.

Ms doesn't just need a "new look" such as themes or skins... it needs a new look that actually adds accessbility/function. having cool/unnecessary window animation/transparencies (which i think LH is going to have) is hardly so.

You are nominating someone who worked at Microsoft then left based on his own decision? If they were interested in helping make LH great for the rest of us, he wouldn't have left and head off to Juno in the first place.

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SterlingNorth — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:35:29 GMT

I'd love to nominate myself, but I don't know jack about OSes or software or anything. Though I'd think it'd be a good idea to get some folks agnostic about MS in the least. I'd second the nominations of Dori Smith, Joel Spolsky (of Joel on Software), but perhaps if you can contact the man behind DrunkenBlog, he'd be a good choice. He's on the Apple side of things, but somewhat uncomfortable with Apple. He's a very clever writer, and he can make incredibly long articles spellbinding. He did post a strong defense of Microsoft when all of Appleland was having joy with Microsoft when they had to man the battlestations after the huge virus outbreak...And he has been the go-to man during the CherryOS controversy. For those reasons, I nominate DrunkenBlog's "DrunkenBatman"

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jcwelch — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:57:41 GMT

mrkon wrote:

msemack wrote:I'm sure my post will get lost in the noise here...

However, I'd like to nominate Joel Spolsky (http://www.joelonsoftware.com).

He's a developer, but he's also a usability "guru". He seems to be really good at looking at things from an end-user's perspective.

I fully agree. I second that nomination.

I would also like to nominate the idea of people stop nominating themselves, it's getting old/annoying.

Ms doesn't just need a "new look" such as themes or skins... it needs a new look that actually adds accessbility/function. having cool/unnecessary window animation/transparencies (which i think LH is going to have) is hardly so.

If someone nominates themselves instead of waiting/getting others to do it, they're showing that they're motivated and interested. What's wrong with that?

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jcwelch — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:59:55 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

mrkon wrote:

msemack wrote: I'm sure my post will get lost in the noise here...

However, I'd like to nominate Joel Spolsky (http://www.joelonsoftware.com).

He's a developer, but he's also a usability "guru". He seems to be really good at looking at things from an end-user's perspective.

I fully agree. I second that nomination.

I would also like to nominate the idea of people stop nominating themselves, it's getting old/annoying.

Ms doesn't just need a "new look" such as themes or skins... it needs a new look that actually adds accessbility/function. having cool/unnecessary window animation/transparencies (which i think LH is going to have) is hardly so.

You are nominating someone who worked at Microsoft then left based on his own decision? If they were interested in helping make LH great for the rest of us, he wouldn't have left and head off to Juno in the first place.

Okay, Microsoft, Apple, or Juno, it's just a job, not a loyalty test. I'd rather see someone who's been both inside and outside of MS giving feedback that someone who hasn't been anywhere else since college. (I had to deal with that type at MIT, been there 30 years, only place they'd worked since high school, impossible to deal with)

That gives them a really unique background. If he's happier at Juno, so what.

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 06 May 2005 00:21:14 GMT

jcwelch wrote:

Andre Da Costa wrote:

mrkon wrote:

msemack wrote: I'm sure my post will get lost in the noise here...

However, I'd like to nominate Joel Spolsky (http://www.joelonsoftware.com).

He's a developer, but he's also a usability "guru". He seems to be really good at looking at things from an end-user's perspective.

I fully agree. I second that nomination.

I would also like to nominate the idea of people stop nominating themselves, it's getting old/annoying.

Ms doesn't just need a "new look" such as themes or skins... it needs a new look that actually adds accessbility/function. having cool/unnecessary window animation/transparencies (which i think LH is going to have) is hardly so.

You are nominating someone who worked at Microsoft then left based on his own decision? If they were interested in helping make LH great for the rest of us, he wouldn't have left and head off to Juno in the first place.

Okay, Microsoft, Apple, or Juno, it's just a job, not a loyalty test. I'd rather see someone who's been both inside and outside of MS giving feedback that someone who hasn't been anywhere else since college. (I had to deal with that type at MIT, been there 30 years, only place they'd worked since high school, impossible to deal with)

That gives them a really unique background. If he's happier at Juno, so what.

I would have been happier at MS all along. But you do have a valid point, this person has been on both sides of the fence. So, I guess his being away from the company for good while has probably given him some complete perspectives of MS in the eyes both the Microsoft Developer and Microsoft Customer.

Ok, I nominate Joel on Software - for someone who has experienced it all.

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gcnaddict — Fri, 06 May 2005 01:18:53 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

Ok, new nominations:
Bob Stein - Active Win - out of all the major enthusiast websites, he is the most mature, objective and down to earth person who is popular but at the same time can relay the problems and sore points facing Windows users today. I believe he can bring both knowledge and experience to the table and has proven this daily through activewin, which is more than just a website, but a community dedicated to solving issues that affect Windows Users today. He is not like other persons from other Enthusiast websites who seem to be boats with holes out at sea leaking NDA information every chance they get. So, if you want just one solid person from a popular Windows Enthusiast community, this is it.

Coming up with more soon.

I will concur with that nomination for all of the reasons stated above

While we are on the subject of NDAs, I've looked through the topic and found that there are quite a few people who have nominated themselves but are known to break NDAs between Microsoft and its employees (excuse: "I didn't sign the NDA so I can leak it" nice try <_<) on a regular basis. Andre, I know that you are a responsible person. As such, I am not implicating you (or anyone else) in the matter, and I don't want you to think that I am. However, those who are highly respected seem to "earn" that respect thanks to what they've leaked and, in turn,how theyve broken an NDA by doing so. You all know who you are.

While I am at it, I wont only be discussing "Skins" or "Glass" as mrkon indirectly suggested that I would be doing. The main point of the Desktop Window Manager at this stage is to demonstrate the power that Longhorn contains and is ready to yield to developers (read: Avalon). However, in this early stage in the game, especially with the sidebar and other things gone, there isn't much to manipulate (read: hack) other than DWM.

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DeepakKapoor — Fri, 06 May 2005 01:56:58 GMT

I would like to nominate myself. I'm very interested in being a part of everthing that is Longhorn.

Why do I think that I'm worthy of Team99 membership? Hmmm, for a start, I've been playing with Longhorn since you guys first showed it. Due to my interest, I wrote few articles related to Longhorn / Avalon / WinFX. Here are the links

http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/HelloLonghorn.asp

http://www.codeproject.com/dotnet/TicTacToeLonghorn.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnlong/html/avalonwinformsinterop.asp

Other than that I have also started a community site related to WinFX

http://www.DeepWinFX.com

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gcnaddict — Fri, 06 May 2005 02:55:50 GMT

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Hrolfe — Fri, 06 May 2005 05:00:18 GMT

I don't really want to nominate myself, but for some reason I feel compelled to do so. Very well, I nominate Hrolfe.
I have been fooling around with DOS and Windows for the past decade, since I was about 11. My First box was a Pentium I with 16MB of RAM running Windows 95. I have followed Windows along having run a box with every major release of Windows. I have no great love for Windows nor do I hate it, it does the job.
For the past year, I have been working as a computer technician. During this time I've gained much experience fixing Windows problems and helping regular users. If anything, I would be able to provide insight into what an average user would desire or expect from Longhorn.

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tvogelusa — Fri, 06 May 2005 11:15:15 GMT

I like to test this I am very passionate about computers and was a beta tester for 2000 Tom Vogel

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csells — Fri, 06 May 2005 14:24:26 GMT

Stuart Celarier needs to be on Team 99. He's all over in the community:

Active Blogger: http://cs.ferncrk.com/blogs/stuart/
INETA User Group Liaison, PacWest region
INETA User Group Steering Committee
Chair, Birds of a Feather track, Tech·Ed 2005
Active member/organizer in the Portland Area .NET Users Group (PADNUG)
Maintainer of the Longhorn Developer FAQ, the Smart Client FAQ, the Windows Forms FAQ and the Compact Framework FAQ
Attendee at the WinFX-related SDRs
Owner of the blue beard that made Don green with envy (if that's not passion, what is?!? : )

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El Bruno — Fri, 06 May 2005 15:53:22 GMT

BTW ... thanks to this big post, i found a lot of new faces of Windows geeks. With this geeks, comes a lot of incredible WebSites.
A lot of new references !!!
Thanks to anybody !!

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Dick McManus — Fri, 06 May 2005 15:56:46 GMT

I am a blogger, I guess. I am not too happy with the term, but I publish a newsletter (my term).

You can read my work on my archieve/website at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewsViewsnolose/

I am a researcher into US war crimes/CIA drug trafficking. I recommend you read my piece called, Some Unknown History of the US.

On another subject:

I have a son who has a BA in computer science from the UW. His gpa was 3.9, but he has been unable to find a job. I am sure he would work for minimum wage to get experience and to improve his social skills (computer geek symdrom) and job skills. It seems to me such a waste is his intelligence. He is also into music.

Dick

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 06 May 2005 16:58:05 GMT

csells wrote:

Stuart Celarier needs to be on Team 99. He's all over in the community:

Active Blogger: http://cs.ferncrk.com/blogs/stuart/

INETA User Group Liaison, PacWest region

INETA User Group Steering Committee

Chair, Birds of a Feather track, Tech·Ed 2005

Active member/organizer in the Portland Area .NET Users Group (PADNUG)

Maintainer of the Longhorn Developer FAQ, the Smart Client FAQ, the Windows Forms FAQ and the Compact Framework FAQ

Attendee at the WinFX-related SDRs

Owner of the blue beard that made Don green with envy (if that's not passion, what is?!? : )

I agree with Chris, I have seen some of Stuarts post in the WinFX newsgroups, he's good. I second the nomination.

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tmintner — Fri, 06 May 2005 20:24:53 GMT

It seems there are a lot of developers nominated. I am an Infrastructure guy and I would like to nominate myself.

I am a MS MVP in Server Admin Frameworks and am actively involved on myITForum.com. I have a blog at http://myitforum.techtarget.com/blog/tmintner and am actively involved in a larger user group organization.

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Wil — Fri, 06 May 2005 20:47:57 GMT

As I noted in my previous post (about 1/3 of the way through page 11 in this thread), I consider it dangerous that MS will be relying on feedback from "superusers", who from the perspective of the real future users of Longhorn might just as well be from another planet. It is especially vexing that it is only the particular subset of superusers who have a religious fervor for Microsoft products that will take part. (After all, I know many "superusers" from the UNIX world who are incredibly smart and who do astonishing things with computers, but who wouldn't touch Windows with a barge pole.) I think it would be far more useful for you to rely on feedback from people like the guy in the next office here, whose user skills consist primarily of simple word processing, sending E-mail, using a Web browser, and running programs that other people have installed on his computer for him. Messrs. Gates and Balmer - come to his office and meet your true audience, whom you will have to win over to Longhorn!!! I therefore suggest that the Team 99 group be supplemented with a much more important one, which could be called Team 9.8, since it will consist of people who will never use even one-tenth of the Longhorn features that the Team 99 superusers regard as the sine qua non that gives meaning to their otherwise empty lives. For membership in this more significant Team 9.8 group, I would nominate all of the 50 million computer users in the USA who belong in that category, since I fear it is the only way that they shall get MS to listen to their plight.

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 06 May 2005 23:43:41 GMT

Wil wrote:

As I noted in my previous post (about 1/3 of the way through page 11 in this thread), I consider it dangerous that MS will be relying on feedback from "superusers", who from the perspective of the real future users of Longhorn might just as well be from another planet. It is especially vexing that it is only the particular subset of superusers who have a religious fervor for Microsoft products that will take part. (After all, I know many "superusers" from the UNIX world who are incredibly smart and who do astonishing things with computers, but who wouldn't touch Windows with a barge pole.) I think it would be far more useful for you to rely on feedback from people like the guy in the next office here, whose user skills consist primarily of simple word processing, sending E-mail, using a Web browser, and running programs that other people have installed on his computer for him. Messrs. Gates and Balmer - come to his office and meet your true audience, whom you will have to win over to Longhorn!!!

Thats what I have been saying, and what about those users who have migrated to XP but still have that 98 mentality? How will you get them to move to Longhorn and see the value points? How will you kill that inertia?

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mgarins — Sat, 07 May 2005 01:07:05 GMT

Well since a large number of people have been nominating themselves I will do the same.

Why should I be on Team99?
Because I have been a developer for 10+ years.
Therefore I understand what a developer is looking for in a OS.
I am a point prover. I will work and work to make some see/understand my point of view or idea.
I can understand the needs of the masses. I am the computer support person for my mid seventies father in-law in Florida and I live in Wisconsin.
I can explain complicated computer ideas to him and others without having to refer to other computer terms.
For Example: Explain MS Excel to someone who has never seen it or a computer.

I do not have an agenda. Currently well known computer luminaries might feel pulled in one direction or another. I will tell it like it is.

I do have a blog http://www.little-garins.com/blogs/marty albiet not a highly popular one yet. Although I did recieve alot of traffic for Visual Studio Macro I produced http://www.little-garins.com/Blogs/marty/archive/2004/06/24/171.aspx

I can write a coherent bug report.

I can produce a Power Point Presentation.
I can deliver that presentation.

Pick me and you'll have and asset.

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me — Sat, 07 May 2005 01:24:50 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

Thats what I have been saying, and what about those users who have migrated to XP but still have that 98 mentality? How will you get them to move to Longhorn and see the value points? How will you kill that inertia?

that's the answer right there - you don't "kill that inertia"

you stop copying apples metaphors
and concentrate on enhancing the ones you've popularized to a sea of millions of people for 10 years

Windows GUI rocks - always has - no matter which incarnation.

= upgrades!

Use the past Luke! Stop data obfuscation!

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ale_bona — Sat, 07 May 2005 02:32:56 GMT

I would like to take part of Team 99,
I nominate myself

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gcnaddict — Sat, 07 May 2005 03:29:17 GMT

ale_bona wrote:

I would like to take part of Team 99,
I nominate myself

want to talk about what you do? maybe some links to things youve provided to the community?

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CodeGeek — Sat, 07 May 2005 05:11:17 GMT

I nominate Dan Bartels.

Dan and his blog, http://blog.danbartels.com, are excellent reources for information regarding Longhorn and many other Microsoft tools and technologies.

Ryan,
Senior Software Engineer

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Diego Vega — Sat, 07 May 2005 06:21:38 GMT

I nominate Robert Stein from ActiveWin.com. Along with Robert Scoble, he has been my main source of information about Microsoft for a long time.

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Andre Da Costa — Sat, 07 May 2005 16:44:12 GMT

DiegoV wrote:

I nominate Robert Stein from ActiveWin.com. Along with Robert Scoble, he has been my main source of information about Microsoft for a long time.

You nominate the guy who is responsible for the program? Might as well nominate Bill Gates, he has been talking like a real Windows user lately about end to end scenarios.

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harrisonh1 — Sat, 07 May 2005 19:46:17 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

DiegoV wrote:I nominate Robert Stein from ActiveWin.com. Along with Robert Scoble, he has been my main source of information about Microsoft for a long time.

You nominate the guy who is responsible for the program? Might as well nominate Bill Gates, he has been talking like a real Windows user lately about end to end scenarios.

I think that you misunderstood him, I don't think that he was nominating Scoble, he was just saying that he had been a source of information for him in the past.

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Nata1 — Sat, 07 May 2005 23:01:14 GMT

I would like to nominate Dan Bartels.

For me, I would like to see people who are blogging quite a bit about longhorn, and have been doing so for a long time. Out of all the blogs I read, Dan is the only one I know who spends so much time installing, making observations, doing things like getting visual studio 2003, 2005 working, dealing with all the interesting quirks from build to build.

I won't add anymore than to say that you would want people who have a longhorn blog history that goes back for ages, and is fun to read. The only other people I know to nominate work for microsoft, I don't think they can give the best feedback but I love a couple microsoft blogs.

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Somenice — Sat, 07 May 2005 23:30:14 GMT

I think I really should be on this team. I live in Whistler, drink at the Longhorn, blog, and can see Highway 99 from my back deck. huh? no?

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Andre Da Costa — Sat, 07 May 2005 23:32:27 GMT

harrisonh1 wrote:

Andre Da Costa wrote:

DiegoV wrote: I nominate Robert Stein from ActiveWin.com. Along with Robert Scoble, he has been my main source of information about Microsoft for a long time.

You nominate the guy who is responsible for the program? Might as well nominate Bill Gates, he has been talking like a real Windows user lately about end to end scenarios.

I think that you misunderstood him, I don't think that he was nominating Scoble, he was just saying that he had been a source of information for him in the past.

Yes, sorry about that, I did misinterpret.

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cpu killer — Sat, 07 May 2005 23:54:29 GMT

creamhackered wrote:

Jose Francisco wrote:

creamhackered wrote:
http://www.aeroxp.net :laugh:

Hmm... What's so funny?

Well look at the link, site doesn't even exist anymore.

Sure it does.

Anyways, I think it's a great thing to have Team 99 back, the community and overall public (the more tech-savvy of us) are needing some more information and insight on Longhorn - alot of things haven't been made clear yet as to what exactly Longhorn will bring, that's new and exciting.

I'd like to nominate:

Stanimir Stoyanov, a.k.a Stan_Fisher (Admin, AeroXperience)
Victor Mach, a.k.a cpu killer. (Founder and Admin, AeroXperience) - me

For general envolvement and enthusiasm with Longhorn, and running a site that I consider a very awesome effort, and success, in informing the community about Longhorn in the friendliest and most straight-forward manner. Not because it's my site, but really because I like what's become of it.

Also would like to nominate Tom Warren (creamhackered), for his excellent coverage of Longhorn over the years - he's definetely been an irreplaceable individual for the Longhorn community.

All in all, I can't wait to see this take off

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Andre Da Costa — Sun, 08 May 2005 00:30:53 GMT

I notice no one has nominated anybody from Longhornblogs for Team99, so I'm going to do the honours and nominate Robert Mclaws and Ryan Dawson.

Ryan http://www.longhornblogs.com/rdawson/default.aspx

Robert Mclaws
http://weblogs.asp.net/rmclaws

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me — Sun, 08 May 2005 01:58:10 GMT

i second that - robert mclaws

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wessleym — Sun, 08 May 2005 03:19:07 GMT

I would like to nominate Leo Laporte and Patrick Norton. They are the two smartest computer guys I have ever known. And they always seemed so balanced in their TechTV days, able to see the achievements and flaws of Microsoft products. I never could have known all I do today about computers if it weren't for them. I actually registered on this site for the sole purpose of their nomination, so please accept it! You will not regret it.

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tomle — Sun, 08 May 2005 11:45:40 GMT

No doubt that Dan Bartels should be part of this. I vote for Dan!

You can follow Dan's cool blog at http://blog.danbartels.com/default.aspx.

TM;

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Dan Clark — Sun, 08 May 2005 13:23:00 GMT

I'd like to nominate James Proud. He's a very trustworthy and informative guy.

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tohackspouse — Sun, 08 May 2005 14:26:22 GMT

I heard about the Team 99 group on Kim Komando's radio show. I am a non-geek, but try to keep informed....

I would like to nominate someone from outside your forum. He will certainly be a beta tester for Microsoft's Longhorn, but I think he would bring some great insight to your group. He works for a major healthcare company in Virginia--IT's R & D person.

Sorry, but he's another fat, white guy. He's also my husband. Please don't hold that against him.

If interested in his services, please reply. He has no idea I'm nominating him.

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Stuart Celarier — Sun, 08 May 2005 15:37:31 GMT

csells wrote:

Stuart Celarier needs to be on Team 99. He's all over in the community:

Active Blogger: http://cs.ferncrk.com/blogs/stuart/

INETA User Group Liaison, PacWest region

INETA User Group Steering Committee

Chair, Birds of a Feather track, Tech·Ed 2005

Active member/organizer in the Portland Area .NET Users Group (PADNUG)

Maintainer of the Longhorn Developer FAQ, the Smart Client FAQ, the Windows Forms FAQ and the Compact Framework FAQ

Attendee at the WinFX-related SDRs

Owner of the blue beard that made Don green with envy (if that's not passion, what is?!? : )

True, all true. Thanks, Chris! And — Yes! — I would love the opportunity to be on Team 99.

My Indigo goatee, my Indigoatee, was great for generating interest and sparking discussion about that technology at Indigo Day at VSLive SF (pictured), and the Indigo SDR.

You've gotta show your true colors, man.

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steve0bob666 — Mon, 09 May 2005 05:00:28 GMT

i don't know about anyone else, but it seems to me as though the majority of everyone who's been nominated is someone who's already involved in longhorn, directly or not. i'm sure microsoft knows of every person out there with any credibility who's reviewing longhorn and posting their comments... so why bother putting them on a team of people? besides, as i read in someone's post earlier and completely agree, most of them are "super-users" in the true sense of the word, meaning they've probably lost sight of what it's like to be the normal everyday user. i for one spend seven hours a day with the normal computer users, including several who became frustrated with windows and went to mac, and even linux. now correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't THAT the normal user, that microsoft is trying to sell to? aren't THEY the ones who are going to have to like Longhorn for it to sell? so shouldn't we try to nominate some of the average users from some of these longhorn communities, like the ones who are asking questions like "how do i do..." or "where is such and such a setting", since THEY'RE the ones who drive the microsoft sales.

just a thought...

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El Bruno — Mon, 09 May 2005 12:10:10 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

DiegoV wrote: I nominate Robert Stein from ActiveWin.com. Along with Robert Scoble, he has been my main source of information about Microsoft for a long time.

You nominate the guy who is responsible for the program? Might as well nominate Bill Gates, he has been talking like a real Windows user lately about end to end scenarios.

Jejejee .... a better choice maybe Linus Towards or Steve Jobs ...

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Zhou Yong — Mon, 09 May 2005 14:19:30 GMT

the best 99 candidate from China must be LeighStroll,bcos she can really give MS guys an special insight into what nonsense really means.she will speaking loudly towards Bill Gates like this:Bill,you have to order ur guys to make Longhorn unmanaged,otherwise I will kick ur (I need to watch my language) hardly:):)

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Tommy4 — Mon, 09 May 2005 17:52:33 GMT

Any Idea on who is on the new team? Just trying to figure out when we will see the spokespersons for this group.

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cso — Mon, 09 May 2005 21:09:26 GMT

I would like to nominate myself as a Longhorn Superuser for Team 99. As the emerging technology strategic architect for a major aerospace corporation with over 125,000 IT users I am extremely passionate about the future of technology. I have participated in providing technical input to many alpha and beta products from multiple vendors.

I am an under 30 female computer engineer. Also known as the companies alpha geek.

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gcnaddict — Mon, 09 May 2005 22:27:47 GMT

This is one of my newest posts critiquing a new sidebar made by a fellow enthusiast. It is an example of the type of work I will provide if I am selected

(If you are not able to read it due to website obscurities, blame it on the wallop team, as I am using their public rendition of the internal flash blogs for my blog on my site)

Edit: regarding the wallop CSS situation, it seems to be just one server which is forgetting to send some of the necessary CSS. Refreshing once, twice, or three times should fix it

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harrisonh1 — Mon, 09 May 2005 23:45:20 GMT

This is my last post in this thead, I promise . Here is a great example of what kind of blogging you can expect from me if I am selected for Team 99. Link.

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Jonathon Watkins — Mon, 09 May 2005 23:49:12 GMT

I would like to nominate Jason Dunn. His contribution to the Windows ecosystem speaks for itself, with sites including: www.PocketPCThoughts.com, www.SmartphoneThoughts.com and www.DigitalMediaThoughts.com.

He is ideally placed to offer a thoughtful, integrated and holistic perspective on the mobile and media aspects of Longhorn. He blogs, is trusted by the community, is visible, has already given good feedback on our behalf to Microsoft, can keep to an NDA and most certainly is authoritative and passionate about computers.

I strongly commend him to you. He's certainly the person I would like to see representing me as my proxy at the Longhorn party.

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Charles — Mon, 09 May 2005 23:50:20 GMT

My hope is that one of the elected few is a Niner.

You hear that Scoble?

C

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JamesProud — Tue, 10 May 2005 16:49:30 GMT

MilindL wrote:

I'd vote for James Proud!

Wow, thanks Milind, a Microsoft guy nominating me, great Thanks again hehe

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Shaded — Tue, 10 May 2005 20:25:52 GMT

harrisonh1 wrote:

This is my last post in this thead, I promise . Here is a great example of what kind of blogging you can expect from me if I am selected for Team 99. Link.

Furthering the spread of leaked information about future Microsoft technology?

Sure you're not the first to leak it, but I bet Microsoft would like to tell its own secrets on it's own schedule.

... I wouldn't think that would be putting your best foot forward there Harrison, but best of luck to you.

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harrisonh1 — Wed, 11 May 2005 02:16:49 GMT

I did not realize that it was not alright for me to blog about that. It was current information that I found interesting and I always like to keep my blog current with the most up to date news. My intention in posting that particular link was to show what kind of in-depth analysis I was capable if. Of course, I wouldn't break my NDA if I was on Team 99.

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Shaded — Wed, 11 May 2005 03:17:15 GMT

harrisonh1 wrote:

I did not realize that it was not alright for me to blog about that. It was current information that I found interesting and I always like to keep my blog current with the most up to date news. My intention in posting that particular link was to show what kind of in-depth analysis I was capable if. Of course, I wouldn't break my NDA if I was on Team 99.

I am not (by a long short) an authority of what is OK and what is not alright in regards to Microsoft.

I did scan through your blog entry and it's clear you were very successful in making a detailed and organized presention.

After reading your reaction I hope my giving you a hard time does nothing but further your chances of being on the team.

Regards,

Shaded

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harrisonh1 — Wed, 11 May 2005 12:32:49 GMT

Thank you for your encouragement Shaded.

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leighsword — Wed, 11 May 2005 13:04:41 GMT

csells wrote:

Stuart Celarier needs to be on Team 99. He's all over in the community:

Active Blogger: http://cs.ferncrk.com/blogs/stuart/

INETA User Group Liaison, PacWest region

INETA User Group Steering Committee

Chair, Birds of a Feather track, Tech·Ed 2005

Active member/organizer in the Portland Area .NET Users Group (PADNUG)

Maintainer of the Longhorn Developer FAQ, the Smart Client FAQ, the Windows Forms FAQ and the Compact Framework FAQ

Attendee at the WinFX-related SDRs

Owner of the blue beard that made Don green with envy (if that's not passion, what is?!? : )

i think so.
he has strongly comunication,writing and technology skills..........cann't find words to say!!!
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=67306#67306

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Tommy4 — Wed, 11 May 2005 20:50:46 GMT

Scobe, you have not commented lately on this group could you please tell the group where it stands? I know a lot of us would like to hear on what is happening.

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Michael Griffiths — Wed, 11 May 2005 23:57:38 GMT

Tommy4 wrote:

Scobe, you have not commented lately on this group could you please tell the group where it stands? I know a lot of us would like to hear on what is happening.

Give it two weeks.

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Tommy4 — Thu, 12 May 2005 01:42:58 GMT

Thanks but what takes 2 weeks in the last week in a half this forum has become a monster. Just like to have some sort of "what is happing"

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scobleizer — Thu, 12 May 2005 01:58:11 GMT

I've been snowed under, sorry. I've been trying to come up with a great idea for how we're gonna pick 20 great people. It isn't coming to me yet.

Need more time. Thanks!

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geekling — Thu, 12 May 2005 02:08:52 GMT

OBEY ME, scobleizer:

For C9ers, pick jamie, Beer28, and Michael GififIFITISHFHSIFIFHFIF--I am so sorry I cannot spell your last name off the top of your head for the life of me; I think to do so might invoke some evil and dark spirit.

That leaves 17 people.

Two more should be Niners; chosen by a completely random "I like the way he dots his Is with little ninjas"--style.

Now you only have to pick 15 more people instead of 20.

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gcnaddict — Thu, 12 May 2005 02:19:27 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

I've been snowed under, sorry. I've been trying to come up with a great idea for how we're gonna pick 20 great people. It isn't coming to me yet.

Need more time. Thanks!

Here's a suggestion: pick out all the ones you believe are well suited enough for the task, try as hard as you can to reduce it to twenty, and if youre not able to, draw the twenty (or the people who won't be in the twenty, whichever takes the least draws) out of a hat. If you have less than 20, then state who you have now

It's just a suggestion though

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Tommy4 — Thu, 12 May 2005 02:40:26 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

I've been snowed under, sorry. I've been trying to come up with a great idea for how we're gonna pick 20 great people. It isn't coming to me yet.

Need more time. Thanks!

Thanks at least we still know you are alive. I fully understand being snowed under, it is always a mad house in my company also. Good luck.

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ancientone — Thu, 12 May 2005 15:44:24 GMT

"Team 99" sounds like a great idea all around, at least from a developer standpoint.

However, I do find one thing that disturbs me: All the folks being solicited [from any area, not just "99," so far] appear to be the über-tech OS/PC-types. This seems to be without consideration for "common folk" who most likely will ultimately be recipients of final version(s) of "Longhorn." [There probably are/will be more folks from that group using some form of Windows than there are/will be developers.]

So. How about having some evaluators [unabashed plug here: ME] who have strong ties to "common use" users, such as the elder community [i.e., grandmas, grandpas], moms and dads, college students, high school students, elementary students, precocious preschoolers, business/office workers, et al? Or how about at least pointing people like us/me to another evaluation group that fits the preceding description?

[Side note: "Why you? Why people like you for evaluation," you may ask? "What are YOUR qualifications?" Simple: Though I am not a blogger (I read extensively, though), I DO have extensive contact with Windows users of all stripes and technical levels because I run my own business dealing with and fixing (at least trying to fix), Windows software problems which people encounter. I also spend a lot of time trying to explain why software does what it does the way it does. Not to mention I spend an even LARGER amount of time demonstrating to/trying to teach folks how to get Windows and software to do what they want with the least hassle.]

So. What do you think? Is there need for a group like this? Does one already exist? Could/should someone like me be a representative on the Team as a "Developer of Good OS Relations with the Common Folk" to provide "early comments?"

[If you see fit to reply, please be kind, avoid flames if you can. I'm already well-flogged by people frustrated with the current Windows out there.]

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Stefán Jökull Sigurðarson — Thu, 12 May 2005 16:32:41 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

I've been snowed under, sorry. I've been trying to come up with a great idea for how we're gonna pick 20 great people. It isn't coming to me yet.

Need more time. Thanks!

Well.. not much of an idea as to how to pick but i sure hope you'll pick a wide variety of people, ranging from a typical word and excel using person to heavy media users (portables, dvd's etc..), enthusiasts (be it just gamers or hardware) and last but not least other developers.

You'll want feedback from almost every type of end user possible

About the selection process though, wouldn't interviews with the most likely nominees be the best choice, be it in person. phone or just over IM (MSN Messenger or such)?

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Seldon_21 — Thu, 12 May 2005 17:50:16 GMT

I want to be on this team. I have the skills and would given the chance be an excellent addition to the next OS revolution.

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gcnaddict — Thu, 12 May 2005 18:35:59 GMT

ancientone wrote:

"Team 99" sounds like a great idea all around, at least from a developer standpoint.

However, I do find one thing that disturbs me: All the folks being solicited [from any area, not just "99," so far] appear to be the über-tech OS/PC-types. This seems to be without consideration for "common folk" who most likely will ultimately be recipients of final version(s) of "Longhorn." [There probably are/will be more folks from that group using some form of Windows than there are/will be developers.]

So. How about having some evaluators [unabashed plug here: ME] who have strong ties to "common use" users, such as the elder community [i.e., grandmas, grandpas], moms and dads, college students, high school students, elementary students, precocious preschoolers, business/office workers, et al? Or how about at least pointing people like us/me to another evaluation group that fits the preceding description?

[Side note: "Why you? Why people like you for evaluation," you may ask? "What are YOUR qualifications?" Simple: Though I am not a blogger (I read extensively, though), I DO have extensive contact with Windows users of all stripes and technical levels because I run my own business dealing with and fixing (at least trying to fix), Windows software problems which people encounter. I also spend a lot of time trying to explain why software does what it does the way it does. Not to mention I spend an even LARGER amount of time demonstrating to/trying to teach folks how to get Windows and software to do what they want with the least hassle.]

So. What do you think? Is there need for a group like this? Does one already exist? Could/should someone like me be a representative on the Team as a "Developer of Good OS Relations with the Common Folk" to provide "early comments?"

[If you see fit to reply, please be kind, avoid flames if you can. I'm already well-flogged by people frustrated with the current Windows out there.]

one of the only requirements is that you be a blogger. start blogging and show us some of your blog entries so that you can be picked!

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LaiDaniel — Fri, 13 May 2005 07:48:11 GMT

I want to join Team 99.
I'm Microsoft MVP for Windows Server and Windows Client for last 2 years.
Also, I'm Microsoft Beta Tester for more than 20 products. Included Windows Server 2003 R2, Windows Server 2003 SP1, Windows XP SP2, Office 11...
I'm a blogger in MSN Spaces.
Currently, I'm Technical Lead Consultant for Microsoft Enterprise Platform and Licensing Solutions.

More information.
www.tinyurl.com/4pdu2

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Number9 — Sat, 14 May 2005 07:18:00 GMT

Robert McLaws, Steven Bink, Chris Prillo to name a few

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gcnaddict — Sat, 14 May 2005 11:44:03 GMT

Something very disturbing occured recently: The WIM dumping mechanisms from builds 4007 and 4059 were released in an unauthorized public release conducted by BetasIRC. Stanimir Stoyanov was named, full name and sist, as the provider of the leaked files. As stan never provided the files to anyone, not even anyone close, and remembering the fact that his full name was printed as the provider of files which were never supposed to leave Microsoft's internal labs, I request that the happenings of yesterday not be taken into consideration during the decision making process.

In short: Stanimir Stoyanov was set-up/mislabeled/framed(in the modern sense of the word). As such, I will also make a side request for anyone who is a viewer/supporter of BetasIRC, don't ever go to BetasIRC. Why support someone who would slander a very good and moral/loyal/other-synonyms-for-those-two-words member of the beta scene?

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peartree — Sat, 14 May 2005 12:27:48 GMT

I guess I'm going to have to nominate myself. Fortunately, that's not such hard work. To be heard and be a blogger, you need a generous helping of ego. I'm also going to argue AGAINST my "boss"es nomination.

You see, I write for the Lockergnome newsletters. While they're the baby of Chris Pirillo, he's got much more on his plate than the newsletters, these days. And,as a Microsoft MVP, he has a lot more to think about than just his opinions when he writes his (unfortunately) rare personal pieces. Not that he hasn't sounded off on Longhorn. He recently wrote a rather scathing piece about the UI. But, as I said, he's got more than enough to keep him busy.

I, on the other hand, write for the newsletters every day. Since the newsletters are actually closed-group blogs, I fit inside the confines of picking bloggers. It's just that the blog items >I< write reach around 500,000 people a day (last time I looked).

I also have plenty of experience with beta testing, having participated ina number of programs under Microsoft rule and others. Combined with computer experience that tops Chris's, I feel I'm just as good a choice, if not better. I can say that because my degree in Data Processing was handed over in 1970. I was playing with computers when Chris was playing with toy trucks .

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Tommy4 — Mon, 16 May 2005 18:02:22 GMT

Well for this being such a hot topic, to now no one is even speaking about it, this is the problem when a very popular idea gets brought up but no action is taken. Is this project going to kick off or just die away? I for one have really been excited about the possibility of a great team like this but am really bewildered in the lack of leadership of it. Please do something to make this a serious venture for us that want to see it succeed.

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gcnaddict — Mon, 16 May 2005 23:12:02 GMT

Tommy4 wrote:

Well for this being such a hot topic, to now no one is even speaking about it, this is the problem when a very popular idea gets brought up but no action is taken. Is this project going to kick off or just die away? I for one have really been excited about the possibility of a great team like this but am really bewildered in the lack of leadership of it. Please do something to make this a serious venture for us that want to see it succeed.

it wont die. the twenty bloggers are likely being decided at the moment.

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scobleizer — Mon, 16 May 2005 23:14:39 GMT

It won't die. I'm working on it this afternoon, in fact.

More later.

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gcnaddict — Tue, 17 May 2005 02:47:16 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

It won't die. I'm working on it this afternoon, in fact.

More later.

*Begins to pray*

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Michael Griffiths — Tue, 17 May 2005 03:57:14 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

It won't die. I'm working on it this afternoon, in fact.

More later.

Don't worry about posting progress (well, unless you decide to cancel it...).

The most important thing for you to do right now is to pick the right people. Take as much time as you need to to sift through and try and think who you can work with, and pick people who can work with each other (disagree, yes, but not get into fights...).

The publicity you've gotten has given Team99 a huge impact on Microsoft's image. That wasn't the intention, but as you said - "amplifying" effect . Not only are the right people critical for the suceess of Team99, it's also (slightly) important for Microsoft's image, particularly amoung bloggers. You want the internet world to be saying "Hey, those were good choices...".

While it's nice to know how progress is coming, don't be pressured to rush. I'd like have answers to direct queries (Have you chosen anyone? Yeah, we've got around half the places filled. Still working on it though!), and other such menial notices... but that's not a big deal.

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scobleizer — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:10:17 GMT

Michael, I agree with you. I'm not going to rush it. It's also nice to have some time away from the first rush to really think through what's important.

For instance, I keep coming back to a few attributes that every member should be rated on:

1) How much did the community want them? (Your nominations are very important to me).
2) How influential are they? (do other people look up to them and listen to them).
3) How much leverage do they have? (For instance, if Linus Torvalds said that he is switching to Windows, he'd have a HUGE amount of leverage on the marketplace)
4) What is their reach? (How many direct people do they touch. My reach, for instance, is about 9,000 people per day, while Peter Rojas reaches about 200,000 per day.

Then I am thinking about the group dynamics. Some things I'm thinking of:

1) How closely to our customer base can we align the group to?
   _International
   _Gender
   _Economic background

2) How credible are each of these people? When I was in Las Vegas this weekend, for instance, one of the Cirque du Soleil shows used a quote from a Time Magazine journalist on their advertising. Bring it back here someone from eWeek? Highly credible. Someone from a blog you've never heard about? Less credible. What should the mix be, given that someone who is less credible might have a high amount of leverage? Obviously feedback from Channel 9 members is hugely important here.

3) Technology background. What should the mix be between superusers and superdevelopers? Why?

Anyway, these are just some of the things I'm thinking about. Should there be any others?

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Stuart Celarier — Tue, 17 May 2005 05:49:15 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Anyway, these are just some of the things I'm thinking about. Should there be any others?

Here's my list of additional traits to consider. I want people who are articulate. I want holistic thinkers and generalists who can talk about the entire system, and the relationships of the different parts to one another. I want some people who have experience with with connected systems and data visualization. I want people who have a background in some aesthetic, like performing arts or visual arts. I want people who can create as well as critique.

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Wil — Tue, 17 May 2005 20:39:15 GMT

> 1) How closely to our customer base can we align the group to?

> 3) Technology background. What should the mix be between superusers and superdevelopers? Why?

These criteria are inconsistent. Both superusers and superdevelopers are a miniscule segment of your customer base. Either group would no more nearly "align" to your customer base than a group of 20 Martians would.

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directX — Wed, 18 May 2005 02:45:34 GMT

me?

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Tommy4 — Wed, 18 May 2005 03:06:52 GMT

Do people that enter there email address in channel 9 really read the email that is sent to them? I have sent email and no one answers it in return. Just a question.

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Michael Griffiths — Wed, 18 May 2005 04:31:52 GMT

Tommy4 wrote:

Do people that enter there email address in channel 9 really read the email that is sent to them? I have sent email and no one answers it in return. Just a question.

I don't use my MSN account because it doesn't offer (decent) Outlook access.

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scobleizer — Wed, 18 May 2005 05:36:34 GMT

Tommy4: I've received your email, but would rather that you leave messages in public. I'm getting so much email you wouldn't believe it.

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ryanlowe — Wed, 18 May 2005 11:36:00 GMT

I'll throw my hat in. There are a few things I can offer:

1. I am a Software Engineering graduate from the University of Ottawa, which is a fairly new program. I could offer new perspectives on software.
2. I've been blogging for over four years in various places. My current blog is over two years old: http://www.ryanlowe.ca/blog/
3. I am a Windows, Mac and Linux user.
4. I am mainly a Java and Eclipse developer but I have used Visual Studio and C#. I could offer a good perspective on the competition and how VS compares.
5. I subscribe to agile and customer-driven processes, unit testing, test-driven development, team accountability,etc. The new processes that will replace the status quo.
6. I sometimes give praise and I am sometimes critical of Microsoft from a software engineering perspective but mostly importantly I don't *hate* Microsoft, I respect Microsoft.
7. I have no problem being objective but I also have no problem having an opinion. I'm clear about which I am doing.
8. I will have lots of time to blog about Team 99's discussions.
9. I've been following the blogging scene for quite some time and I understand good blogging "protocol" and etiquette.
and most of all...
10. I'm very very passionate about software!

If you're interested, contact me at ryanlowe_@hotmail.com or at my blog. Cheers.

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Tommy4 — Wed, 18 May 2005 15:23:00 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Tommy4: I've received your email, but would rather that you leave messages in public. I'm getting so much email you wouldn't believe it.

Well against what I really wanted to do here, this is my sudo resume to join this group. I sent this to Robert and as he said he would rather have messages in public.

Good day Robert
I did not feel the need to blow my own horn in that large of a
forum on the channe9 site. So please take a moment and let me explain
who and what I am.
I currently am the manager of Desktop service support which
includes desktop level-2, desktop level-3, desktop engineering,
anti-virus team, and Altiris team. I have been here at this company for
6 years before my current job I was a network manager for the US Army in
Europe for 4 years. Prior to these I have been dealing with computers
since my first ones of VIC 20 and Apple 2. I took my first computer
programming class in 1985 which was Basic.

A little about my current infrastructure that I manage:
From Hoover's Online:
"Service Corporation International (SCI) is to death what H&R Block is
to taxes. SCI, the largest funeral and cemeteries services company in
the world, owns more than 2,800 funeral homes, cemeteries, crematoria,
and flower shops in eight countries, primarily in the US and Canada;
most of its other operations are in Europe. Services include
embalmment, burial, and cremation. The company also sells prearranged
funeral services, caskets, burial vaults, cremation receptacles,
flowers, and burial garments. Call it unburied treasure: SCI has some
$4.7 billion worth of unperformed funeral contracts."
An updated (Jan. 2005) estimate of the number of SCI locations is 3,200.

Other information:
SCI constantly enlarges its corporate holdings and business
opportunities by purchasing independent funeral homes and sites
throughout the United States and Canada. We then allow these sites to
operate virtually independently, offering access to corporate funds and
services. We have about 22,000 -23,000 active users across our
networks that could have any kind of connectivity they would like from
dial up to full T-1. Within my group I have people to do testing I have
roughly 20 on site personal along with a lab that consist of an ever
changing 30 different computers.

Some of my credentials:
MCSE, MCDST (Charter member), MCP, A.C.E (Altiris Certified Engineer)
(one of the first in the industry, one of the first 7 in Houston), been
interviewed any many magazines and new articles through out the IT
industry.

Professional organizations:
Infraguard
Board of Director for International Blackberry User Group

This is just some of the highlights that I have for the reason that I
want to be a member of this group and have the skills to back up what is
needed. Please consider me as one of your Longhorn testing group. As a
side note I am not sure how many are official longhorn beta testers for
this but I for one am.

Contact information for me

Thomas Smith
email: Tsmith7251@houston.rr.com
Phone: Removed
cell: Removed

Thanks for your time

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gcnaddict — Wed, 18 May 2005 21:10:38 GMT

I just realized that many of the recent self-nominations came from people who have never blogged in their lives. I mean, I've seen some fantastic resumés, but wasn't one of the main requirements to have used a blog?

Also, longhorn has no beta testers as of yet

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Tommy4 — Wed, 18 May 2005 22:00:22 GMT

gcnaddict wrote:

Also, longhorn has no beta testers as of yet

I beg to differ on the comment of no beta testers. according to the site www.Windowsbeta.microsoft.com site that i go to download my betas from it says "welcome to the official Microsoft Beta Website" and when i go to downloads on the left side it takes me to the longhorn downloads. this also gives me the choice of differnt folders that i can download my .isos from. Now i may be seeing wrong but i did download my versions from here and did get my beta number from Microsoft. If this is all not a legit thing then i have been fooled by the best. By the way just because it did not come out in MSDN yet does not mean it is not a beta.

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gcnaddict — Thu, 19 May 2005 01:34:50 GMT

edit

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Stevan Veselinovic — Thu, 19 May 2005 01:35:09 GMT

I believe if you have the Windows R2 beta you get that "beta position" as well. Windows beta, here i come! WOOHOO!
[that's where they posted the final Sp2 download for us nardly-beta testers. ]

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Tommy4 — Thu, 19 May 2005 01:57:00 GMT

Regardless, of the beta issue, I am not here to fight for a postition, if I am awarded one then I am honored, if not then I hope someone better is. I just want to assit the community in making this a better product. I believe the issue of being a blogger has come up many times and I want to ensure all types of users are utilized from the average user to the super user to the developer, while including all types of enviroments from home to enterpises. If blogging is a serious issue then a fellow team memeber might be able to afford some space on there blog site to allow this person to do the needed writing. That is just a possible solution.

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Mhi — Thu, 19 May 2005 23:47:50 GMT

Great represantion is like this interview by James Proud: http://www.jamesproud.com/index.php?id=22
Everyone loved it and this just pushes his nomination I think scoble should link on his blog.

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 20 May 2005 17:08:16 GMT

Thank you, I agree. If you just read Stuart Celarier post, the guy just requested 20 Bill Gates to be on Team 99, now thats what I call lacking diversity.

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Shaded — Fri, 20 May 2005 19:29:24 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

I've been snowed under, sorry. I've been trying to come up with a great idea for how we're gonna pick 20 great people. It isn't coming to me yet.

Need more time. Thanks!

IF you are agonizing that is because you have a lot of great choices. Congratulations.

Law of diminishing returns I'm sure applies to this situation and creating for yourself endless agony about how to be the most "fair" when the mission statement is an ideal might be a great way to earn yourself a nervous breakdown.

So what I would recommend is putting together a list of pass or fail nominations. If someone could be good for the team, put them on the pass list. If they don't, fail em.

Then take your pass list, and use a good random number generator to pick 20. You know a lot of good developers at Msoft, you should be able to find someone to code this for you in all of two seconds.

If you don't like the first list do it again, but I'm sure you will.

If you don't like the idea of everyone giving you a hard time about who you picked, you can;

1) refuse to discuss it

2) make a single post about why you liked each member (should be easy since they all made the pass list) and refuse to answer any further questions

3) tell everyone you picked names out of the hat

No matter what you do someone is going home with hurt feelings. Big Deal. Who cares? I know I won't even make the pass list so I'm going to start crying now.

Watch:

WaaaaaH! Scoble didn't pick me! WAAAaaaHHH!

There... now I'm over it.

Whatever you do Scoble, good luck.

Regards,

Shaded

PS: and to give credit where credit is due, I'm not the first one to suggest pulling names out of the hat. I just went into a deeper justification of it because I think it would raise my chances. (heh)

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The Channel 9 Team — Fri, 20 May 2005 19:40:50 GMT

Shaded: How about if we used some criteria like this:

Eight of the 20 should be from outside the United States.

Six of the 20 should be publicly using non-Microsoft OS's (Linux or Macintosh).

Eight of the 20 should be women.

Four of the 20 should be from "non-famous" blogs (blogs that aren't on the top 100,000 of Technorati).

Eight of the 20 should be developers.

Two of the 20 should be Tablet PC enthusiasts

Two of the 20 should be Media Center enthusiasts

Two of the 20 should be 64-bit enthusiasts

At least two of the 20 should be Channel 9 members in good standing (IE, top folks who are among the posters who have been members for more than two months).

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jsrfc58 — Fri, 20 May 2005 19:45:23 GMT

Now imagine if you had to turn this set of criteria into an SQL query.

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Shaded — Fri, 20 May 2005 21:10:14 GMT

The Channel 9 Team wrote:

Shaded: How about if we used some criteria like this:

I could pick it apart and talk about why some decisions suck and some don't but the reality is chances are you'll regret some nominations regardless of your selection method.

It is against the nature of what is Geek for me to say "Get the damn job done and quit splitting hairs." but that's exactly what I would bring to Team 99. Common sense.

The sooner this is done the more opportunities Team 99 members have to influence Longhorn, and/or the more time they will have to consider their feedback carefully.

I could also argue: "Why two 64 bit enthusiasts, instead of three? Clearly that is more important than media center or Tablet put together, since it will effect all machines in the future."

I'm not going to pick your method apart. Instead I'm going to support whatever method you choose, in hopes that you will be more comfortable choosing one and it will get done sooner.

... but that's not to say I wont try to influence it before then.

More reasoning on "names from the hat":

The more details you give on your selection process the more you're opening yourself up to criticism.

One website put this much better than I ever could.

Criticism is another way of saying you're never going to have a consensus.

http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/03/one_of_us_iisi_.html

Instead of looking for a consensus on how to select Team 99, you should be looking at how to limit criticism. To me one Microsoft's biggest downfalls is exposing its reasoning to criticism, when it was not in its best interest, and hiding its reasoning when its absolutely brilliant.

Find a developer that has a highly accurate random number generator (I'm sure MS has at least fifty of them) and give the task to someone else to select the winners. You could even video tape the whole thing and make it a Channel 9 video.

Then you could make the story about how you made it fair for everyone instead of applying your own layer of fairness to it, that immediately will make some people angry.

Truth is, even if you use a random number generator linked to decaying nuclear isotope, some nut out there is bound to be upset and claim "he just changed the numbers when they came out of the machine to put Shaded in there, since he has always been a MS brown noser in his blog."

Sometimes working harder to make people happy, just gives them an opportunity to frustrate them more.

Even after choosing a random number generator some people may way "Microsoft leaves important decisions up to chance."

So, that's why I said, maybe you should only list the reasons why the 20 made the list, and NOT discuss how you arrived at the 20 - or why everyone else did not make the list.

.... imagine finding out you listed someone as outside the united states who was selected on that basis and they really were inside the united states. Whoops.

Ok I have to wrap up this rant somehow... so I'll do so by saying, this post has a great bunch of people in it - you'll do well no matter who you choose - so don't kill yourself choosing a group, focus more on what to do with the group you select.

Regards,

Shaded

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eagle — Sat, 21 May 2005 15:08:45 GMT

I’ve stated it before; we should have 99 Members with 64bit machines.

It’s about leadership; we need to show the world the benefits of 64bit computing.

32bit Longhorn is going to be the Windows ME of the Twenty First Century.

I met the Longhorn Team in Seattle and I asked them “who is going to upgrade to 32bit Longhorn”? “Enthusiasts”, was the answer, but computer Enthusiasts will want to (if they haven’t already) upgrad their hardware to 64bit.

The GPU is going to play a greater role in the Longhorn system, so the idea of running Longhorn on one of today’s Tablet PC's is ludicrous. I can’t wait to get my hands on a 64bit Tablet PC with a 256mb GPU!!!

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ZippyV — Sat, 21 May 2005 21:53:09 GMT

I want to bring a little correction to the requirements:
- Scrap the 2 64-bit enthousiasts, 64-bit is just part of the evolution, soon all new computers will be 64 bit.
- Those 2 Channel 9 members should have registered at least 4 to 6 months ago. Otherwise everybody could have registered since the Team 99 announcement.

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gcnaddict — Sun, 22 May 2005 02:00:22 GMT

eagle wrote:

I’ve stated it before; we should have 99 Members with 64bit machines.

It’s about leadership; we need to show the world the benefits of 64bit computing.

32bit Longhorn is going to be the Windows ME of the Twenty First Century.

I met the Longhorn Team in Seattle and I asked them “who is going to upgrade to 32bit Longhorn”? “Enthusiasts”, was the answer, but computer Enthusiasts will want to (if they haven’t already) upgrad their hardware to 64bit.

The GPU is going to play a greater role in the Longhorn system, so the idea of running Longhorn on one of today’s Tablet PC's is ludicrous. I can’t wait to get my hands on a 64bit Tablet PC with a 256mb GPU!!!

Everything but your last comment was right.

Read this and this for why

Why do you think nvidia and ati are working on high-powered notebook graphics anyways? 1) Demand. 2) Longhorn
Not only that, by late 2006 there will have been so many advances in mobile graphics tech that I wouldnt be surprised if 256mb becomes the amount of ram in MAINSTREAM laptops and tablets Dont forget that Microsoft is planning out a super version of Longhorn with all of the features from tablet and MCE.

there

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Tommy4 — Thu, 26 May 2005 03:23:11 GMT

Any news on how this is going?

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scobleizer — Thu, 26 May 2005 09:40:34 GMT

It's going. We'll have a list soon. Sorry for taking so long.

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officialsm — Thu, 26 May 2005 16:48:24 GMT

Can i candidate myself for italian language blogging?
www.officialsm.net

bye!

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Andre Da Costa — Thu, 26 May 2005 18:26:54 GMT

officialsm wrote:

Can i candidate myself for italian language blogging?
www.officialsm.net

bye!

Yes you can Officialsm.

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Jaz — Sat, 28 May 2005 10:15:29 GMT

Ok it's time for me to actually stick my hand up and be counted.

Who am i for a start. Well the majority of everyone here knows me, ive been here pretty much from the start. I was probably a few days off but woops sometimes exams take more presidence.

I'm Jared Evans, i'm 20, i'm a comp sci student at De Montfort Uni, just about to start my 3rd year in july doing an industrial placement. I'm a geek, i'm a freak and i'm proud.

Why will i be good for Team99? Hell you all know me, i'm willing to voice my opinion, i'm willing to say this isn't going where it should be or saying that this is pointless. I'm a bit contraversial. But i love technology, and i love doing things with it to make my life better and to make other peoples lives better. I have spent much a time on these forums, working on MS betas, working on other peoples betas and geeking out in the MS chats.
Give me a tablet/laptop with Longhorn on and let me walk around campus let me drum up the student vote, let me get people talking and get lecturers switching from linux to windows.

I have a blog with a small amount of readers www.livejournal.com/~jaredce but those readers trust me and when i say the next version of windows will be amazing, they'll trust my opinion and they'll spread it onto their friends.

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DanBartels — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:14:02 GMT

The silence is deafening..

I am feeling a bit starved for longhorn info here... any update on this?

Or did you (Robert) take your own advice and stop bloggin about longhorn again until the beta? =)

Dan

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scobleizer — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:22:40 GMT

Team 99 is still being worked on. I have to work with a lot of other people and unfortunately I'm just snowed under this week (I leave for a 10 day tour of Europe tomorrow and I'm giving a keynote and I had a bunch of book deadlines and we announced some new Office formats yesterday, etc, so I've been a little snowed under).

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prog_dotnet — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 21:32:39 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

I'm giving a keynote

What about bringing your cam along and get it taped for public viewing at channel9 ?

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revjon — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:03:59 GMT

Nomination for Dan Bartels (www.danbartels.com)

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Tommy4 — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:48:37 GMT

Any new news yet? Your team memebers(?) are excited to see there names on your list.

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scobleizer — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:57:48 GMT

Tommy, probably next week. Sorry for the delay.

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Andre Da Costa — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 23:40:05 GMT

I am so excited, I can't wait to see who will be on it. Remember Robert, "diversity" is the key.

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NetRyder — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:24:37 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Tommy, probably next week. Sorry for the delay.

Awesome! This should be fun. =)

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thenikjones — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:58:42 GMT

I'd also like to recommend Jason Dunn (Pocketpcthoughts.com amongst other things). I've been visitng his sites since 2000 and I've always found him to be helpful and knowledgeable.

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Vishnardi — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:58:37 GMT

Jason Dunn (As others have suggested) would make a good complement to the team. I also have to put in another vote for Paul Thurrott.

And if you want another fat white guy, you could just always ask me...

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Chris_McKay — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:40:50 GMT

I also think Jason Dunn would be a good choice as well as Paul Thurrott. Both seem very knowledgeable and are very helpful. I think the team would be better with their participation.

Now, for a shameless plug, I would love to be able to help out, too. As for my credentials, I am the programmer behind three Windows automation utilities found at Insight Software (http://www.wintools.com), the most popular of which is Macro Express. As such, I know most of the ins-and-outs of pretty much each version of Windows since Windows 95.

I also develop WisBar Advance (see http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) and am working on a new version of PocketBlinds for Stardock. As such, I'm very familiar with the internals of the Windows Mobile OS.

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CrashX — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:03:51 GMT

I also believe that Jason Dunn would make be a good choice for Team 99.

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OSUKid7 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:19:32 GMT

Jason Dunn of Thoughts Media would make a great contribution to Team 99.

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Bajan Cherry — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:41:50 GMT

Since I do not blog and cannot travel, my nomination would be Jason Dunn of Thoughts Media

Seriously, Jason is a great guy, and I am positive that he'll bring tons of ideas to the so-called Team 99.

Aum Shanti

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Xenon101 — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:27:11 GMT

I have to agree get Steven Bink in on it, his reviews are great! Also yea...neowin boys could be good (but then again do you really believe these people wont publish everything found on their sites?)

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billh — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:38:22 GMT

I sure hope none of the regular posters from Channel 9 gets elected to the team. That would be d-u-l-l with a capital "D". I mean, after all, only A-list bloggers should be allowed in. Channel 9 posters just don't get how cool it is to post non-stop endless, rehashed information from other people without an original thought of their own. This is social networking at its finest. It's all about conversations, and the ability to look at the computer monitor at the end of the day say "Look! I posted that!" or "I read 400 feed reads tonight! Have YOU?". A night without bloglines? Talk about withdrawal! Can you imagine getting the shakes from missing the latest update to the RSS specification? I can't imagine such a tragedy.

Personally, I can't wait for the day when they make chip implants and then I can load up my favorite feedreader software and get all that life-changing information piped right into my cerebral cortex. Blogging is about volume, reliable secondhand information, and manipulating the Google search engine. If you don't like a comment, just ignore it and post five more topics. It's like walking away from a bore at a party. Nobody like an accurate bore...its much funner to debate with colorful statements and by turning up the volume. And to hype up a product? C'mon...its a no-brainer...you go with the ones who can talk the most. Accurate feedback is b-o-r-i-n-g. I mean, how many people is an all-star developer going to influence? One company? One manager? A couple hundred desktops? Why move mountains? Let's move mountain ranges!

Crap...is this thing on? I didn't mean to post this! Where's the edit button?

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Jaz — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:18:40 GMT

billh wrote:

I sure hope none of the regular posters from Channel 9 gets elected to the team. That would be d-u-l-l with a capital "D". I mean, after all, only A-list bloggers should be allowed in. Channel 9 posters just don't get how cool it is to post non-stop endless, rehashed information from other people without an original thought of their own. This is social networking at its finest. It's all about conversations, and the ability to look at the computer monitor at the end of the day say "Look! I posted that!" or "I read 400 feed reads tonight! Have YOU?". A night without bloglines? Talk about withdrawal! Can you imagine getting the shakes from missing the latest update to the RSS specification? I can't imagine such a tragedy.Personally, I can't wait for the day when they make chip implants and then I can load up my favorite feedreader software and get all that life-changing information piped right into my cerebral cortex. Blogging is about volume, reliable secondhand information, and manipulating the Google search engine. If you don't like a comment, just ignore it and post five more topics. It's like walking away from a bore at a party. Nobody like an accurate bore...its much funner to debate with colorful statements and by turning up the volume. And to hype up a product? C'mon...its a no-brainer...you go with the ones who can talk the most. Accurate feedback is b-o-r-i-n-g. I mean, how many people is an all-star developer going to influence? One company? One manager? A couple hundred desktops? Why move mountains? Let's move mountain ranges!Crap...is this thing on? I didn't mean to post this! Where's the edit button?

thats what ive been scared will happen all along, people like steven bink will be nominated and all he ever does is post rehased info to his "blog". (I need to watch my language) let me start one of these things up.

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billh — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:16:35 GMT

Jaz wrote:

billh wrote: I sure hope none of the regular posters from Channel 9 gets elected to the team. That would be d-u-l-l with a capital "D". I mean, after all, only A-list bloggers should be allowed in. Channel 9 posters just don't get how cool it is to post non-stop endless, rehashed information from other people without an original thought of their own. This is social networking at its finest. It's all about conversations, and the ability to look at the computer monitor at the end of the day say "Look! I posted that!" or "I read 400 feed reads tonight! Have YOU?". A night without bloglines? Talk about withdrawal! Can you imagine getting the shakes from missing the latest update to the RSS specification? I can't imagine such a tragedy.Personally, I can't wait for the day when they make chip implants and then I can load up my favorite feedreader software and get all that life-changing information piped right into my cerebral cortex. Blogging is about volume, reliable secondhand information, and manipulating the Google search engine. If you don't like a comment, just ignore it and post five more topics. It's like walking away from a bore at a party. Nobody like an accurate bore...its much funner to debate with colorful statements and by turning up the volume. And to hype up a product? C'mon...its a no-brainer...you go with the ones who can talk the most. Accurate feedback is b-o-r-i-n-g. I mean, how many people is an all-star developer going to influence? One company? One manager? A couple hundred desktops? Why move mountains? Let's move mountain ranges!Crap...is this thing on? I didn't mean to post this! Where's the edit button?

thats what ive been scared will happen all along, people like steven bink will be nominated and all he ever does is post rehased info to his "blog". (I need to watch my language) let me start one of these things up.

Better yet, start several of them, and then link them all back and forth to each other. Then link to Scoble.

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eagle — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:28:21 GMT

It does seem curious that this Jason Dunn would get so many nominations all of a sudden. He wasn't at TechEd, neither was Paul Thurrott.

I wish more posters would nominate someone they know who has a 64bit computer.

By next year all PC will be 64bits.
Remember the jump from 16bits of RAM to 512?
We're moving to two to sixteen Gigabits of memory!

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Sven Groot — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:28:38 GMT

I have a 64 bit computer!

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Jaz — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:00:32 GMT

as do i

/me pats his spanking new AMD 64 3500+

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eagle — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:28:41 GMT

Cool, welcome to the world of 64!

I nominate Jaz and Sven, two guys I have known for over a year.

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Wil — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:14:08 GMT

I use a SPARCstation at work a lot, so I've had a 64-bit computer for ages! I also have a really swell HP calculator, and I've got a pretty keen digital watch! Wanna trade me (the latter two) for your Athlon box??? Wheee!!!

Wow, this thread now has 500 replies! If the whole point was to generate hype for Longhorn blogs, it's already succeeded, even without picking anyone to be the bloggers!

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Sven Groot — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:32:36 GMT

Jaz wrote:

/me pats his spanking new AMD 64 3500+

Damn. I only have a 3000+. It's still very fast though. And my motherboard is compatible with the new Athlon64 X2 dual-core chips, should I want to upgrade. But the price must come down first.

Do you run XP x64? I do.

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Jaz — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:49:18 GMT

to be honest it's my mums PC, but practically mine, and mine will be a 3500 anyhow when i get my first paycheck.

but yeah it should be X2 compatible and it has PCI Express.

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Sven Groot — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:59:27 GMT

Jaz wrote:

but yeah it should be X2 compatible and it has PCI Express.

Same here. What motherboard do you have? I have the Asus A8N-E (and God I'm loving the nVidia chipset after the horror that was SiS).

What video card do you have? I had some trouble finding an adequate PCI-E card which also had 64 bit drivers available and wasn't too expensive. In the end I settled for the GeForce 6600GT.

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:39:17 GMT

I nominate both Robert Stein of ActiveWin.com and Ryan Hoffman of Extended64.com

Robert for his wonderful website that has been an amazing resource for everything Windows since 1998 and for his knowledge and expertise when it comes to Microsoft technologies and his willingness to share that knowledge through the AnetForums.

Ryan Hoffman, a great guy and a real enthusiast when it comes to Windows x64. His website is a great resource that has focused so long on evangelizing the power 64-bit computing. His expertise at computer programming and his recent award, Microsoft Student Ambassador prove that he is the right man for the job.

These two persons I know posest the strength, knowledge, vigour and skills to communicate the insights of the different Microsoft communities to help make Longhorn an exceptional release.

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Tommy4 — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:55:08 GMT

Dont want to keep bugging everyone but, where are we as of today on the group?

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billh — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:19:51 GMT

This is the thread that never ends...yes it goes on and on my friend...some people starting posting to it and didn't know what it was and they'll continue posting to it just because...

eagle wrote:

Cool, welcome to the world of 64!

Now...if they would only revive the Commodore line...and call the new 64-bit creation the Commodore 64 x 64.

eagle wrote:

I nominate Jaz and Sven, two guys I have known for over a year.

I nominate Eagle, because he is the epitome of consistency and durability, and thus...he can always be counted on. For what, I don't know, but look at his avatar...it never changes!

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Tommy4 — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:20:11 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Tommy, probably next week. Sorry for the delay.

any updates?

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Stevan Veselinovic — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:38:04 GMT

Nominate me!

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mikekol — Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:25:12 GMT

I nominate Dan Bartels - http://blog.danbartels.com/default.aspx

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Andre Da Costa — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:46:46 GMT

Hello, is anybody home? I guess Robert is waiting until beta 1 or PDC to announce the top 20.

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Stuart Celarier — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:15:43 GMT

Check it out. This thread is rated the number 5 most viewed discussion on the Channel 9 Coffeehouse. We've got work to do, and together we can do it -- at 52,451 views, we only need 9,505 more views to beat out "Does Microsoft care about Webmasters?" Check back two or three times a day to see if there's any news on Team 99 and drive that view count up! : )

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billh — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:24:39 GMT

Stuart Celarier wrote:

Check it out. This thread is rated the number 5 most viewed discussion on the Channel 9 Coffeehouse. We've got work to do, and together we can do it -- at 52,451 views, we only need 9,505 more views to beat out "Does Microsoft care about Webmasters?" Check back two or three times a day to see if there's any news on Team 99 and drive that view count up! : )

Hey but it is number one in "Most Replies". Of dubious quality. How did MSN Web Messenger get so many views anyway?

automated script?

My favorite post is IE 7 Download Manager one. Over 25,000 views. One reply.

Let me see...is there a way to increase the viewership? Hmmm...how about...

Nah, that wouldn't work.

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Shaded — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:28:38 GMT

Stuart Celarier wrote:

Check it out. This thread is rated the number 5 most viewed discussion on the Channel 9 Coffeehouse. We've got work to do, and together we can do it -- at 52,451 views, we only need 9,505 more views to beat out "Does Microsoft care about Webmasters?" Check back two or three times a day to see if there's any news on Team 99 and drive that view count up! : )

This would be my biggest worry about working at Microsoft - more so than other companies. When your organization is so big it is hard to measure your actual impact. Instead your performance is measured on metrics that... all too frequently have nothing to do with actual contribution.

Like counting how many views this thread gets, and trying to pump it up. Are Stuart and Scoble's job performance judged by these statistics? If so I highly question the accuracy of this metric.

Its becoming more and more clear to me that Team 99 is not about contributing to Longhorn as much as it is about driving traffic to Channel 9. Sure there comes a point where hype and generating interest can carry a wave of enthusiasm and make a project (or product) better than it otherwise would have been, but there comes a point in time where you are just cabbage patching.

When the consumers finally catch on that contributions to Longhorn are not all that difficult to make, you end up with a product that is not only worth less than what you originally had, you're over staffed to support the reduced demand after the bubble bursts.

... or not. That's just the way I see it.

All I know is I've seen hundreds, maybe thousands of messages with little more substance than a Linux verses Windows debate. I'm just as guilty as the next guy of contributing to this useless debate, however I came to Channel 9 to learn what the developers are doing, and participate in a community supported by Microsoft that is focused on getting something done. Anything. Sure I'm a novice I don't know what the hell I'm doing

Maybe its my fault for spending so much time in the coffee house because the real substance is somewhere else, but lets face it, this is where the activity is. Otherwise why else would the team 99 post be put here?

... or not.

But the day Microsoft considers the number of views a post gets the amount of "work" done is the day I have to ask... "Is the dot com era really over?"

Am I really going to check back two or three times a day to add counts to the "views" column of some obscure database? Is that the extent of my contribution to the community of Channel 9?

I'd like to think I have something better to do with my time...

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me — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:58:04 GMT

we all like to think we matter in some way

best we can do is not kill each other trying to get our points across

yes..yes.. every day there is more and more news about MS and < whatever-has to do with IP> also big business, security, bla bla bla bla

but oss chaos surely cannot be the future ?

ms have been a good steward so far - although we need some BIG actions soon to show they are up to the challange

i think they will pull it off again - like 95 was over Workgroups

only this time they arnt beating themselves - they are beating everyone who doesnt want one company controlling tech

thats what its about
i think a COMPANY does need to control that
as much as i like oss
MS has steamrollered along slowly - meeting customers and consumer demand

or.... call stall man

i need a nice cold frosty....B...

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ckeast — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:08:56 GMT

I have been with Windows since 3.0 and currently am using XP Pro. For the past 5 years I have been working on a customized email stationery and signature card concept. Lack of financing for an e-commerce website has been my only hold back. The 'signature card' concept (similar to a business card) concept is unique as acts as a piece of stationer but moves downward as text is added in both Outlook and Outlook Express.

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Tommy4 — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:48:04 GMT

First off please dont take this wrong Robert

I think people are getting tired of false expectations. I do understand having a busy time and not being able to accomplish the needed task on this group. Maybe it will benefit us more by saying we will close this Nomination process and I will let you know when the group is formed in a few months, when I have time. With 516 replies and almost 53,000 views there is a lot of interest in this topic that should get some kind of team by now. If you need some help there are many on this string that would be willing to help. I will step up and be the first to offer my assistance if needed.

Just to clarify what I mean about false expectations:

Scobleizer quotes

May 4th
Tommy: I'll take the process to the next step sometime in the next week

May 12th
I've been snowed under, sorry. I've been trying to come up with a great idea for how we're gonna pick 20 great people. It isn't coming to me yet.

Need more time. Thanks!

May 17th
It won't die. I'm working on it this afternoon, in fact.

More later.

May 26th
It's going. We'll have a list soon. Sorry for taking so long.

June 2nd
Team 99 is still being worked on. I have to work with a lot of other people and unfortunately I'm just snowed under this week (I leave for a 10 day tour of Europe tomorrow and I'm giving a keynote and I had a bunch of book deadlines and we announced some new Office formats yesterday, etc, so I've been a little snowed under).

June 9th
Tommy, probably next week. Sorry for the delay.

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billh — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:52:33 GMT

Sorry, but he's currently being "snowed under" by Dave Winer at Gnomedex and may not reply for a while.

http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/06/24.html#a10461

Robert Scoble wrote:

We're at Gnomedex and Dave Winer is about to take stage

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Stuart Celarier — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:09:14 GMT

Shaded wrote:

Are Stuart and Scoble's job performance judged by these statistics?

ROTFL. Make no mistake: I am not employed by Microsoft. I am positive that these statistics have nothing to do with how my job performance is judged! I don't think I'm as sinister or shallow as you must think. I thought that by drawing some light-hearted attention to the traffic on this topic, Robert might be subconciously motivated to get Team 99 in motion. So much for subtle subversion.

Don't miscontrue my unabashed effort to draw attention to and drive up view count. The view count is already so high because people remain interested in Team 99 being announced.

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Shaded — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:15:17 GMT

Stuart Celarier wrote:

... I am not employed by Microsoft. ...

Well good thing I mentioned I had no idea what was going on. Otherwise I would have made a fool of myself.

... Oh? I did anyway?

Well at least its Friday....

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:06:24 GMT

In the words of Steve Ballmer's father:

If you are going to do a job, then do a job, if aren't going to do a job, then don't do a job.

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NetRyder — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:45:37 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

In the words of Steve Ballmer's father:

If you are going to do a job, then do a job, if aren't going to do a job, then don't do a job.

Can anyone be any more painfully obvious?

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:55:38 GMT

NetRyder wrote:

Andre Da Costa wrote:
In the words of Steve Ballmer's father:

If you are going to do a job, then do a job, if aren't going to do a job, then don't do a job.

Can anyone be any more painfully obvious?

Yeah, its typical Ballmer style.

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Tommy4 — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:50:37 GMT

no good responses yet.

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Stuart Celarier — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:50:14 GMT

Tommy4 wrote:

no good responses yet.

Nope. But in his defense, one look at his blog will tell you that Scoble has been busy this week.

Meanwhile, the view count has increased to 53,470. That's 1,000 views in three days. However, views of "Does Microsoft care about Webmasters?" have also gone up, leaving the gap between the #4 and #5 most viewed threads at 8,730.

Recklessly extrapolating, without the smallest shred of statistical validity, that would put the cross-over date on July 29 — unless some annoucement on Team 99 is made before then, which would make this thread rather uninteresting rather quickly.

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scobleizer — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:53:03 GMT

I'm sorry for not meeting expectations. There are a lot of moving pieces here and I want to make sure it's done right with everyone on board.

This attracted a lot more attention than I expected to tell you the truth, so got more attention internally than expected. Translation? Made it harder to get it finished, especially since I've been traveling so much (channel 9 video posting rate has suffered too).

But, Beth Goza starts next week. She's helping out here too, which is another reason for the delay.

More to come soon. I don't want to promise another date. But soon.

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Stuart Celarier — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:48:08 GMT

I figured it might have to do with more than just being busy. Remember the immortal words of Super Chicken, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." : )

And so now here you are, after a bar crawl that started at 10 p.m., at 3:00 in the morning, and you're posting on Channel 9 forums. I see the passion (read "obsession"), but where do you get the energy? When do you sleep?

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jcwelch — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:31:44 GMT

Tommy4 wrote:

no good responses yet.

Dude, relax. I mean, I'll give Robert a hard time without blinking, but I also know what pulling this kind of team together takes, especially on something that's ridiculously high profile.

Robert's doing okay here, just chill for a bit.

(there, see, I CAN say something nice about Robert

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Andre Da Costa — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:49:47 GMT

Sorry Robert, I should have realized. Anyway, take your sweet little time and decide ok?

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billh — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:14:25 GMT

I think the whole process of selecting 20 people could really be simplified into a minimal amount of "moving parts":

15...whack!
16...whack!
17...

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Tommy4 — Sat, 02 Jul 2005 03:46:31 GMT

jcwelch wrote:

Tommy4 wrote:
no good responses yet.

Dude, relax. I mean, I'll give Robert a hard time without blinking, but I also know what pulling this kind of team together takes, especially on something that's ridiculously high profile.

Robert's doing okay here, just chill for a bit.

(there, see, I CAN say something nice about Robert

Yea I guess I was a little hard. Well I chilled for a while and wanted to watch and see how this would come out. I think it is now at a point of almost being forgotten. Just my 2 cents.

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scobleizer — Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:46:14 GMT

It's not forgotten. I'm just so far behind tasks it isn't funny. We have a new employee, Beth Goza, starting next week. I'd rather wait to get her involved here. She has a lot of experience running these kinds of groups.

It'll take a while longer. Sorry.

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Michael Griffiths — Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:38:54 GMT

Scoble: Don't worry about it.

Team99 generated several magnitudes more buzz than it should have. Naturally, that means internal pressure to get it exactly right and not annoy anyone increased exponentially.

When an executive reads something about Microsoft in the news he didn't expect to see, it makes him antsy.

Team99 is not urgent. It can wait - about - another 3 months before it really needs to get done. The end of the summer, around fall, of course, it should be organized.

So: stop making excuses. There's no point.

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Tom Servo — Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:04:08 GMT

Michael Griffiths wrote:

Team99 generated several magnitudes more buzz than it should have.

Actually, it generated less buzz than expected. By joining Team 99, you'll get an inside look into Longhorn. Considering how many people there are trying any chances to put their hands on it, I'm surprised that this thread is still at some 530 replies only.

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scobleizer — Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:49:11 GMT

Thanks!

Team 99 won't be the only way to get a look at Longhorn. That's one thing I'm sure of.

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Andre Da Costa — Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:22:04 GMT

Team 99 is not crucial to the development of Longhorn. The Longhorn Team already has anthropolgist out in the field to take care of that.

The exciting part really was to have people be a part of Team 99 and have people on the Longhorn development Team explain to those individuals, the things they felt passionate about when it came to making Windows great.

In return we were to learn from this and spread the good news about those great things in Longhorn.

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:10:32 GMT

Hello? anybody here?

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Stuart Celarier — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:56:06 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

anybody here?

You've got some XML well-formedness issues:

The following tags were not closed: echo, echo. Error processing resource...

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scobleizer — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:59:26 GMT

Sorry for the slowdown on this stuff. It's gonna take a few more weeks.

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Tom Servo — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:15:55 GMT

In a few weeks is the PDC, where beta 2 comes out and will be available to the public, anyway. At that point, there's no reason to keep a Team 99, because everyone and their grandma have the beta 2 build and post everywhere about it.

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me — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:56:19 GMT

hey tom... whats with the avatar swearing?
who is that?

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scobleizer — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:56:27 GMT

Tom, there still are reasons to bring a small group back into our labs, even after the PDC. We're thinking it'll be more like a way to get people you know and like to interact with the Microsoft teams here on Channel 9.

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Tom Servo — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:00:13 GMT

jamie wrote:

hey tom... whats with the avatar swearing?
who is that?

Gabe Newell from Valve Software.

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:11:56 GMT

Tom Servo wrote:

In a few weeks is the PDC, where beta 2 comes out and will be available to the public, anyway. At that point, there's no reason to keep a Team 99, because everyone and their grandma have the beta 2 build and post everywhere about it.

Longhorn BETA 2 ain't coming until Q1 of 2006 (this was announced at TechED 2005).

At the company's annual Worldwide Partner Conference, one Microsoft executive said the company will provide the first beta of Longhorn aimed at IT professionals this summer, but the "cool new UI" with visualization, organization and search capabilities won't be included in the Longhorn code until beta 2, which is due next year.

"I'm very confident we're going to make next year," Sanjay Parthasarathy, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Developer & Platform Evangelism Group, said about making the fall 2006 ship date for Longhorn. "Keep your fingers crossed for us."

Read the rest here

There will most likely be an Interim Update of Longhorn at PDC specifically targetted at Developers. As for beta 2 information, I suspect Microsoft is just going tease our taste buds with a pleasant glimpse of the new GUI concept of what they have in store, does not mean you will get it though.

Robert, don't worry, we are behind you 100% (well, I hope we all are). Keep up the good work.

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Tom Servo — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:25:04 GMT

Q1 2006 for beta 2? Oh boy, I hope they won't rush out a bugfest, just to meet the Fall 2006 RTM deadline.

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Andre Da Costa — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:51:25 GMT

I say the longer it takes for Longhorn to be released, the better. Let them make it is as, stable, secure and reliable as possible.

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Tom Servo — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:47:50 GMT

Shareholders would like to disagree. They're the reason why they've postponed WinFS and pulled the release date to an earlier point in time.

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Andre Da Costa — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:29:56 GMT

Tom Servo wrote:

Shareholders would like to disagree. They're the reason why they've postponed WinFS and pulled the release date to an earlier point in time.

hmm, why do I sense most of those shareholders don't know anything about computers, and if they do own a computer its an iMac and they take trips to Morocco or Greece every holiday?

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Michael Griffiths — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:38:24 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

hmm, why do I sense most of those shareholders don't know anything about computers, and if they do own a computer its an iMac and they take trips to Morocco or Greece every holiday?

Because you don't need to know about software to know how to make money selling it?

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Nata1 — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:23:20 GMT

Don't forget Dan Bartels - now working for Telligent Systems.

I don't just say that because Dan is one of the only people who figured out how to get Nata 1.1 to work, but because he posts constantly about Longhorn - pretty inspiring stuff, makes me actually want to get a virtual machine going

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jcwelch — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:38:20 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

Team 99 is not crucial to the development of Longhorn. The Longhorn Team already has anthropolgist out in the field to take care of that.

The exciting part really was to have people be a part of Team 99 and have people on the Longhorn development Team explain to those individuals, the things they felt passionate about when it came to making Windows great.

In return we were to learn from this and spread the good news about those great things in Longhorn.

No, actually, that sounds like the crap I can get by reading the PR silliness that MS puts out in a torrent every day of the year. Why would anyone go through extra effort to get marketed to? I can do that without any extra work whatsoever. I go to work and read my email and check my snailmail. Why do you need Team 99 for that. And having the Longhorn Devs tell *me* what *I* want? Sorry, doesn't work that way.

I was not under the impression that the entire purpose of Team 99 was to sit in a room and get stroked by MS PR, fed Kool-Aid by a couple of project managers so that we can all go out and spread the word of Ballmer across yon 'blogosphere' and the great plains of the 'Inkernet'.

I had this idea, admittedly stupid now that I ponder it more, that Team 99 was to be a way for a cross - section of various Windows customers to tell the Microsoft Longhorn Dev team, directly, with no filtering by survey-speak or marketing wonks what they wanted from Longhorn. That it was to be direct communication. Unfiltered. Unfettered. No one "interpreting". With no one, at any time uttering the phrase, "What they mean by that is...", because there'd be no need. We'd all be talking to each other directly. How stupidly ignorant and pollyannaish is THAT?

They've GOT cheerleaders, they pay them well.

So is this a cheerleader team - building effort, or a chance to directly talk to the dev team?

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scobleizer — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:33:48 GMT

>So is this a cheerleader team - building effort, or a chance to directly talk to the dev team?

All the above. And a chance to yell at the team too and throw rotten tomatoes.

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gcnaddict — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:51:56 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

>So is this a cheerleader team - building effort, or a chance to directly talk to the dev team?

All the above. And a chance to yell at the team too and throw rotten tomatoes.

I guess all of the above would be right, minus the rotten tomatoes and the yelling at the team part. I'm still very willing to participate in Team99 if it ever becomes a reality in the next few months...

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jcwelch — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:40:50 GMT

I'd guess the real question is how much of Vista is set in stone. If the featureset's locked down, and all that's being beta'd are bug tests, then there's no point in Team99

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Jeremy W — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:43:22 GMT

jcwelch wrote:

I'd guess the real question is how much of Vista is set in stone. If the featureset's locked down, and all that's being beta'd are bug tests, then there's no point in Team99

It's not "feature complete" for (give or take) another 6 months, when beta 2 comes out.

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Tom Servo — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:45:56 GMT

The further the start date of Team 99 gets to beta 2, the more it'll turn into an one-way PR group. You don't need a Team 99 for this, beta 2 will be public, half the internet will be blogging about it then, anyway.

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Tommy4 — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:56:01 GMT

I tend to agree, it is a shame that we as a group could not come together as a team to get a head start on this project. In the future this kind of team should not be led on so long, you lose the momentum. I am disappointed in the way it has not happened as it said in the start. This thread was started on May 1st, and almost 3 months later nothing has been done. Scoble has done a great job in the past but I will consider this group as not being a success. Scoble please don’t take this as a ding against you but rather constructive criticism.

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Jeremy W — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:56:08 GMT

Tommy4 wrote:

I tend to agree, it is a shame that we as a group could not come together as a team to get a head start on this project. In the future this kind of team should not be lead on so long, you lose the momentum. I am disappointed in the way it has not happened as it said in the start. This thread was started on May 1st, and almost 3 months later nothing has been done. Scoble has done a great job in the past but I will consider this group as not being a success. Scoble please don’t take this as a ding against you but rather constructive criticism.

Agreed. And with you as well Tom.

Scoble's basically organizing this, and it seems that his overloaded nature is having a hard time actually making this happen.

That said, you'd think there would have been some resolution to that during the last team offsite. Maybe we'll see movement soon?

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scobleizer — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:14:27 GMT

Criticism noted. One problem I haven't been transparent about is that the analyst community bashed us quite hard about our Team 99. So, we backed up and are working on a broader community engagement first. Sorry for the delay. Also, now with the new name, the Team 99 name doesn't make sense.

We also had several changes to the team and it's taking some time to get the integrated into the team and get them working on projects like this. More news coming soon.

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Jeremy W — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:16:34 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Criticism noted. One problem I haven't been transparent about is that the analyst community bashed us quite hard about our Team 99. So, we backed up and are working on a broader community engagement first. Sorry for the delay. Also, now with the new name, the Team 99 name doesn't make sense.

We also had several changes to the team and it's taking some time to get the integrated into the team and get them working on projects like this. More news coming soon.

Phew, thanks for the update!

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Tommy4 — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:48:06 GMT

Thanks Robert, all I ask is just keep us updated when you can. Keep up the great work!!

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jcwelch — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:22:37 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Criticism noted. One problem I haven't been transparent about is that the analyst community bashed us quite hard about our Team 99. So, we backed up and are working on a broader community engagement first. Sorry for the delay. Also, now with the new name, the Team 99 name doesn't make sense.

We also had several changes to the team and it's taking some time to get the integrated into the team and get them working on projects like this. More news coming soon.

Um...so analysts are deciding how this is run?

Great.

Okay, so with my last fading sparkle of hope here, what is the purpose for TTFKAT99? Is it going to be on-line before code lockdown, when, in theory, it can make a difference, because the various teams will be listening to what the people who may or may not buy Vista have to say, or is this going to be a "We got to see Vista, and here's why it ROCKS!! WOOOOOO!!! DEVELOPERS!!!" and nothing is going to even have a remote chance of being changed?

Because the original idea for this was a really good one, but it looks like it's rapidly sliding towards the great PR oubliette. I'd rather be wrong here.

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Andre Da Costa — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:16:50 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Criticism noted. One problem I haven't been transparent about is that the analyst community bashed us quite hard about our Team 99. So, we backed up and are working on a broader community engagement first. Sorry for the delay. Also, now with the new name, the Team 99 name doesn't make sense.

We also had several changes to the team and it's taking some time to get the integrated into the team and get them working on projects like this. More news coming soon.

How about Team Vista?

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scobleizer — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:38:17 GMT

>Okay, so with my last fading sparkle of hope here, what is the purpose for TTFKAT99?

Well, it looks like the beta will get into 100,000 people's hands. There will be PLENTY of feedback coming into the team.

The problem is 100,000 people might not get an answer to "what the hell were you thinking?"

We're currently thinking of making Team 99 more of a Channel 9 thing. Where a small group of representatives that the community picks can come and meet with the folks who actually built the technology and ask them any question they want. I'm working on getting them video and non-NDA access too so you can listen in on the conversation.

We're thinking of uncoupling this team from Windows Vista and making it more of something like our Mobius group which will cover lots of things at Microsoft that geeks and developers care about.

Basically still the same idea. 20 people on campus that would get to meet with execs and get tours of teams here on campus.

Importance? Such a team will help you figure out if a new technology that we're trying to pitch the market on is good or bad (shocker, not all of our ideas are good).

Yes, they will also give feedback from the community (the people we pick are gonna be people you know and trust -- not necessarily Microsoft lovers either!) and will be expected to be advocates for you.

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Michael Griffiths — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:41:11 GMT

Interesting idea on expanding it. I'd lean against doing so too soon, and try initially with only the Windows Vista group. If it's a success, extend to other product teams.

And I thought that was always what Team99 was about...?

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me — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:49:54 GMT

if thats the case i nominate Manip (for a no BS report) and Michael - for a well documented report

theres lots of people on C9 who could help with this - but my main question is - WHY DO WE HAVE TO GO THERE?

send the beta - make a forum where the 20 or 50 selected members can post - send us a video presentation and NDA and have at it

why does anyone need to meet managers / fly across country.. when we have the internet??
(My Reply 1001! )

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Tommy4 — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:12:02 GMT

I like the Idea Robert!! I also like the idea of the forums where we could as a group (sorry to say) the ones that are on the beta (due to the NDA) can come and talk about issues and be able to post questions with screen shots as needed. And we should not out cast the ones that do not have an official beta of Vista so make a forum that is not under NDA to just talk. By allowing a forum that the average user can comment on with the beta testers we could check stuff for them and report as needed and allowed. This could be dangerous to the beta testers but they have to use good judgement and not give out the wrong type of info. I am willing to work with the community to make this a success for all channel 9 users.

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billh — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:00:21 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

We're currently thinking of making Team 99 more of a Channel 9 thing. Where a small group of representatives that the community picks can come and meet with the folks who actually built the technology and ask them any question they want. I'm working on getting them video and non-NDA access too so you can listen in on the conversation.

<---nominates self

Seriously.

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Cider — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:23:43 GMT

Michael Griffiths wrote:

Interesting idea on expanding it. I'd lean against doing so too soon, and try initially with only the Windows Vista group. If it's a success, extend to other product teams.

And I thought that was always what Team99 was about...?

I kind of disagree. In my opinion, one of the biggest problems that Microsoft has is that it is this behemoth of a company and because each part of the company gets too deeply involved in itself, it fails to see the sort of "life cycle" people out in the real world use.

For example, as a Network/Systems Administrator, I often get annoyed by Microsoft failing to realise that a product they developed has failings in deployment or failings in ability to control and maintain the packages. These occur because the people who develop the products are so ingrained in their own product/service group, they can't see beyond that.

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gcnaddict — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:52:28 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

>Okay, so with my last fading sparkle of hope here, what is the purpose for TTFKAT99?

Well, it looks like the beta will get into 100,000 people's hands. There will be PLENTY of feedback coming into the team.

The problem is 100,000 people might not get an answer to "what the hell were you thinking?"

We're currently thinking of making Team 99 more of a Channel 9 thing. Where a small group of representatives that the community picks can come and meet with the folks who actually built the technology and ask them any question they want. I'm working on getting them video and non-NDA access too so you can listen in on the conversation.

We're thinking of uncoupling this team from Windows Vista and making it more of something like our Mobius group which will cover lots of things at Microsoft that geeks and developers care about.

Basically still the same idea. 20 people on campus that would get to meet with execs and get tours of teams here on campus.

Importance? Such a team will help you figure out if a new technology that we're trying to pitch the market on is good or bad (shocker, not all of our ideas are good).

Yes, they will also give feedback from the community (the people we pick are gonna be people you know and trust -- not necessarily Microsoft lovers either!) and will be expected to be advocates for you.

I'll be honest; I personally liked the previous idea better (the one where Team99 is handpicked by the employees running Channel9 and blog about Windows Vista, among other things) because it was just one goal, and we would have been dedicated to just one product.

But then again, thats just me

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scobleizer — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:00:44 GMT

Jamie,

>>WHY DO WE HAVE TO GO THERE?

Because there's something a lot more real about being there. Er, here. You'll see probably tomorrow as I interview Chris Jones on the Windows Vista team (VP).

We couldn't do that kind of intimate interview without going to his office.

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scobleizer — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:12:42 GMT

> try initially with only the Windows Vista group

That's our thinking too. Agreed.

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jphillips59 — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 02:30:27 GMT

Guess I should have been more active on C9...

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jcwelch — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:15:34 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

>Okay, so with my last fading sparkle of hope here, what is the purpose for TTFKAT99?

Well, it looks like the beta will get into 100,000 people's hands. There will be PLENTY of feedback coming into the team.

The problem is 100,000 people might not get an answer to "what the hell were you thinking?"

We're currently thinking of making Team 99 more of a Channel 9 thing. Where a small group of representatives that the community picks can come and meet with the folks who actually built the technology and ask them any question they want. I'm working on getting them video and non-NDA access too so you can listen in on the conversation.

We're thinking of uncoupling this team from Windows Vista and making it more of something like our Mobius group which will cover lots of things at Microsoft that geeks and developers care about.

Basically still the same idea. 20 people on campus that would get to meet with execs and get tours of teams here on campus.

Importance? Such a team will help you figure out if a new technology that we're trying to pitch the market on is good or bad (shocker, not all of our ideas are good).

Yes, they will also give feedback from the community (the people we pick are gonna be people you know and trust -- not necessarily Microsoft lovers either!) and will be expected to be advocates for you.

What's the point? The beta's out there, so the code's locked down. If there's major integration issues, not going to get changed. You and I both know the S/N ratio on over 100,000 users approaches useless, it's why public betas are more for PR than anything else.

This had the potential to be a really useful tool, but now, it's just another PR scheme designed to create cheerleaders. I can ask any question I want NOW, and probably get it to a fairly high level quickly. The ability to ask questions has no value if the answer is known beforehand and cannot change anything.

The ability to sit down with the Vista team BEFORE things were finalized, and say "Look, here's all the stuff that Windows is doing really badly, and here's what is needed out of Vista so that there's some value there beyond "NEW"." That's gone now, dead and gone, and through delay, this is now a plan to build yet another cheerleading squad.

Pity too, it would have been nice to see in its original form, before the marketing vampires drained the life out of it.

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tomwarren — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:27:27 GMT

So what's going on with this then? Any updates??

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Stevan Veselinovic — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 09:37:18 GMT

Hello?.. Anyone? Echo, Echo, Echo...

- Steve

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Stitch 2.0 — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 09:43:36 GMT

I gotta be honest here. This looks more and more like another marketing scam to me.

It's 2 months since the last status update and to tell you the truth I don't believe in T99 (or what it's called now) anymore....

A pretty disappointed,

Stitch

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reedracer — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:52:34 GMT

It's the thread that refused to die! I think I fell out of the running since I have to go to Carousel now that 30 years have passed since I submitted my nomination.

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scobleizer — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:54:27 GMT

Sorry, Beth had this on her plate and she had to take a leave. We dropped this one on the floor, sorry. It came down to doing 30 videos for all of you or doing a program for a few people. It'll come back.

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

me — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:37:36 GMT

Safe to assume getting 9er's new betas of O12/vista would greatly reduce the harm of us all participating in this fallacy of an interaction X 70 k views
..so - where do we reclaim our wasted time? ha - serious?

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

Andre Da Costa — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:36:53 GMT

I think Team99 will be back again in 2010.

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

Tommy4 — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:59:32 GMT

Andre Da Costa wrote:

I think Team99 will be back again in 2010.

That is asking a lot, in the Microsoft world 2010 is right around the corner.

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

Wil — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:39:33 GMT

Tommy4 wrote:

That is asking a lot, in the Microsoft world 2010 is right around the corner.

Yes - after all, Windows 2010 will probably be released sometime in 2013!

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

Andre Da Costa — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:29:09 GMT

It will be back in 2010, but put off again until 2016.

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

jcwelch — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:16:35 GMT

It'll be done in 2016 by a team of gadgets so that no human input will be needed. Surprisingly, the gadgets will agree that whatever MS does is good.

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

harrisonh1 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 05:18:21 GMT

I'm just going to bump this up. What's going on with Team 99? Any updates or progress?

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

scobleizer — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:02:21 GMT

harrisonh1 wrote:

I'm just going to bump this up. What's going on with Team 99? Any updates or progress?

Jeff Sandquist is working on something new. More details on that soon. Sorry for the lack of information.

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

bander — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:08:33 GMT

I nominate Beer28, maybe he will stop using SuSE and join us

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

Cornelius Ellsonpeter — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:56:06 GMT

So...what is that "something new"? Any word yet?

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

Maddus Mattus — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:49:05 GMT

go away!

Coffeehouse - Nominations open for Team 99 -- Longhorn Superuser and Superdeveloper blogger group

Go Microsoft !!!!!!! — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:12:21 GMT

thread 2005??