Just curious about when windows is going to try and overtake apple in the digital production work, I rarely see a movie studio that doesnt have a mac. These production programs are not that complicated, when will microsoft figure out what they need to
do to edge mac out of the market?
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Hehe.. I don't think iMovie is the reason why people use macs for video editing.. I'm sure there's tons of other professional software that they use to do their thing instead. iMovie and Movie Maker are just for us consumers that want to make our own videos for personal use.. (at least that's what they are geared for imho). People use macs because they are simple, easy, and powerful, both in software AND hardware. Microsoft does not control the hardware, so it makes it much more complicated for a studio to decide what to buy, and to make sure it'll perform good. Also, it's probably due in part that the 'typical' video editor likes a Mac, just because that's the type of person they are. (:
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machocomacho wrote:Just curious about when windows is going to try and overtake apple in the digital production work, I rarely see a movie studio that doesnt have a mac. These production programs are not that complicated, when will microsoft figure out what they need to do to edge mac out of the market?
They don't want to edge Mac out of the market, that would be monopolistic. Although seeing a superior professional video editing solution in a future revision of Movie Maker would be great. I'm right now using some Open Source software called virtual dub as it:
- Allows me to specify what frames I want to cut out
- Makes it easy to seek to the next scene or keyframe
- Allows me to filter the video and audio (I can use a 2D Spatial Cleaner on my recorded cartoons ^_^)
- Allows me to change the volume of the audio
- Makes it possible to output to any format
- Makes it possible to use a codec's VCM to set settings (I really like the options in the WM9 VCM; seperate download)
It would be nice to see the ability to do that in Windows Movie Maker.
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Eto's right. High end video production doesn't go anywhere near iMovie. Sure, AVID's a bit behind the times but it's still essentially the standard. It runs mainly on Macs.
I'm fairly sure it wasn't Apple's goal to muscle out their partners, hence why iMovie really shines in the consumer space.
That said, there are some really fantastic digital editing suites for Windows out there as well. Microsoft just doesn't make them (and in many ways I'm glad because it is such a specialized market space where errors simply arent' tolerated). -
For home videos I think Movie Maker 2 really hits the mark. It's easy to learn and use, but you still can produce a decent looking movie.
I've tried a lot of low and high end packages, MM2 has worked out well for my needs.
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Jeremy W. wrote:Eto's right. High end video production doesn't go anywhere near iMovie. Sure, AVID's a bit behind the times but it's still essentially the standard. It runs mainly on Macs.
I'm fairly sure it wasn't Apple's goal to muscle out their partners, hence why iMovie really shines in the consumer space.
That said, there are some really fantastic digital editing suites for Windows out there as well. Microsoft just doesn't make them (and in many ways I'm glad because it is such a specialized market space where errors simply arent' tolerated).
One of these products is Speed Razor. It works on Windows and is an editor that was used for Stuart Little (at least that's what they said). Pretty expensive too, but if you got the money, it is something that seems to work pretty well.
So they're out there, but Apple got that market first so the perception is that they lead. It all goes back to what the designer or editor learned and what the requirements of the company are. -
The move to the digital camera revolution actually opened Windows up considerably, since when you're buying packages: 2 cameras, mixer, 2TB of data (external), terminal, OS, software, monitors, TV monitors...
A lot of the better priced packages (20-100K~) are in fact Windows based, because hardware is cheaper. -
There is a Windows Live Movie Maker rumored.
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Avid Media Composer is widely used on both Windows and OSX. I don't know which platform is more popular though. I would probably assume OSX would be due to historic conventions (Avid MC ran totally on the Mac until the mid/late 90s) and the general correlation between anything media related and Apple. I know (from watching behind the scenes features) that Lord of the Rings and King Kong were both edited on a Win-based Avid.intelman said:There is a Windows Live Movie Maker rumored.
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And that warranted resurrecting a thread that's more than four years old?intelman said:There is a Windows Live Movie Maker rumored.
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My goodness, I didn't see that. I'm sorry for my contributing factor.Sven Groot said:
And that warranted resurrecting a thread that's more than four years old?intelman said:*snip*
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It was on the front page for me, oddly enough.Sven Groot said:
And that warranted resurrecting a thread that's more than four years old?intelman said:*snip*
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