http://cwilso.com/2010/09/21/on-to-a-new-stage/

http://venturebeat.com/2010/09/16/google-voice-cofounder-departs/

2 hours ago, Sven Groot wrote

@Dovella: Larry being the exception that confirms the rule, of course.

Well, he's been there so long it'd probably be announced as Microsoft leaves Larry, rather than the other way around.

53 minutes ago, USArcher wrote

As an outsider, I haven't a clue about Chris's motives but I do find it strange for folks who have focused their careers around web standards and technology would leave at time when Microsoft is expected to have 90% of its employees working on cloud related projects by the end of this year.

What exactly has "cloud related projects" anything to do with "web standards and technology"?

6 hours ago, AndyC wrote

2 hours ago, Sven Groot wrote

@Dovella: Larry being the exception that confirms the rule, of course.

Well, he's been there so long it'd probably be announced as Microsoft leaves Larry, rather than the other way around.

LOL!!
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Which imo is something that the Data team at MS should be looking at strongly.  It is a weakness within the sql relational database system (which is interesting given the name that the rdbms is given is that relations have the least most complicated implementation in a rdbms)

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Speaking of which we've just about to deployed a Windows Search alternative throughout the company, which more or less is a piece of software that, you know, searches files in a folder of your choosing. It is almost as good as Windows 95's search before the "improvements."

1 hour ago, ManipUni wrote

Hopefully the Windows Search team doesn't leave for Google, I want Google Search to continue to have a point... I hope the Windows Search team leave for Facebook, and they hire some interns instead. They cannot do any worse.

Speaking of which we've just about to deployed a Windows Search alternative throughout the company, which more or less is a piece of software that, you know, searches files in a folder of your choosing. It is almost as good as Windows 95's search before the "improvements."

You are, of course, aware that Google Desktop Search is a thin UI on top of Windows Search, right?

25 minutes ago, PaoloM wrote

1 hour ago, ManipUni wrote

Hopefully the Windows Search team doesn't leave for Google, I want Google Search to continue to have a point... I hope the Windows Search team leave for Facebook, and they hire some interns instead. They cannot do any worse.

Speaking of which we've just about to deployed a Windows Search alternative throughout the company, which more or less is a piece of software that, you know, searches files in a folder of your choosing. It is almost as good as Windows 95's search before the "improvements."

You are, of course, aware that Google Desktop Search is a thin UI on top of Windows Search, right?

@PaoloM:
How does it work on Linux then?

32 minutes ago, PaoloM wrote

1 hour ago, ManipUni wrote

Hopefully the Windows Search team doesn't leave for Google, I want Google Search to continue to have a point... I hope the Windows Search team leave for Facebook, and they hire some interns instead. They cannot do any worse.

Speaking of which we've just about to deployed a Windows Search alternative throughout the company, which more or less is a piece of software that, you know, searches files in a folder of your choosing. It is almost as good as Windows 95's search before the "improvements."

You are, of course, aware that Google Desktop Search is a thin UI on top of Windows Search, right?

Google is making huge half million dollar offers to keep people.
Microsoft would rather age off the 30 somethings and get college kids at lower pay.

I remember the thread here that talked about Redmond programmers making under 100k. I was LMAO. How can you be a really good programmer and that retarded to stay at a lower salary when you can be making as much as other people in the field?

10 hours ago,Bass wrote

25 minutes ago,PaoloM wrote

1 hour ago,ManipUni wrote

Hopefully the Windows Search team doesn't leave for Google, I want Google Search to continue to have a point... I hope the Windows Search team leave for Facebook, and they hire some interns instead. They cannot do any worse.

Speaking of which we've just about to deployed a Windows Search alternative throughout the company, which more or less is a piece of software that, you know, searches files in a folder of your choosing. It is almost as good as Windows 95's search before the "improvements."

You are, of course, aware that Google Desktop Search is a thin UI on top of Windows Search, right?

 

@PaoloM:
How does it work on Linux then?

Maybe, just maybe, they don't use the same codebase?

11 hours ago,PaoloM wrote

1 hour ago,ManipUni wrote

Hopefully the Windows Search team doesn't leave for Google, I want Google Search to continue to have a point... I hope the Windows Search team leave for Facebook, and they hire some interns instead. They cannot do any worse.

Speaking of which we've just about to deployed a Windows Search alternative throughout the company, which more or less is a piece of software that, you know, searches files in a folder of your choosing. It is almost as good as Windows 95's search before the "improvements."

You are, of course, aware that Google Desktop Search is a thin UI on top of Windows Search, right?

At least Windows ships with Power Shell. Still think Windows Search is an embarrassing product.

So they implement an entire desktop search engine, but only use it on Linux? Sorry, but that just sounds just really doesn't make sense from an engineering standpoint. You got proof of this?

2 hours ago,Bass wrote

@PaoloM:

So they implement an entire desktop search engine, but only use it on Linux? Sorry, but that just sounds just really doesn't make sense from an engineering standpoint. You got proof of this?

Of course I got proof. Install GDS on Windows. Open task manager. Look for Google's indexing service, protocol and format handlers.

Go on.

Still looking?

17 hours ago,ManipUni wrote

 

11 hours ago,PaoloM wrote

1 hour ago,ManipUni wrote

Hopefully the Windows Search team doesn't leave for Google, I want Google Search to continue to have a point... I hope the Windows Search team leave for Facebook, and they hire some interns instead. They cannot do any worse.

Speaking of which we've just about to deployed a Windows Search alternative throughout the company, which more or less is a piece of software that, you know, searches files in a folder of your choosing. It is almost as good as Windows 95's search before the "improvements."

You are, of course, aware that Google Desktop Search is a thin UI on top of Windows Search, right?

If that is true (and frankly I don't think it is) it is inconsequential. We're rolling out a solution that can search all file types which has been a huge headache. I like how Windows Server 2008 doesn't have the ability to search *.dat files, or *.xml (correctly) but if you want to find your e-mail, it works great - what genius thought that was a good idea?

 

At least Windows ships with Power Shell. Still think Windows Search is an embarrassing product.

Yup. It is so bad that GDS and other desktop search products use it as their indexer and data/metadata extraction engine.

One other thing, considering that I worked on that and have a pretty good knowledge of how it all works, claiming "If that is true (and frankly I don't think it is)" is almost the same as calling me a liar

1 hour ago,PaoloM wrote

2 hours ago,Bass wrote

@PaoloM:

So they implement an entire desktop search engine, but only use it on Linux? Sorry, but that just sounds just really doesn't make sense from an engineering standpoint. You got proof of this?

Of course I got proof. Install GDS on Windows. Open task manager. Look for Google's indexing service, protocol and format handlers.

Go on.

Still looking?

No. It was pretty easy to spot the "GoogleDesktop.exe" in the process manager. It even conveniently provides how much percentage complete it's indexing is. Btw, it's 6% done as of the time of this writing.

I do use Google Desktop on a regular basis at work. But I never even thought of installing on my Windows machine at home for some reason, despite it's extreme usefulness (on Linux, at least). I'm glad it doesn't seem to be a thin UI over Windows Search, so it might be worth keeping it on. Thanks for the suggestion.

It lists Google's own indexer as "Enchanced Content Indexer", noting a bulletpoint of additional features. Not exactly the best advertisement for Windows Search.