I think some WP7 devs (who didn't get the SDK) might be looking elsewhere at the moment. Hopefully for MS that is Windows 8 but I'm sure they will also be losing a few to 'Collateral Damage'.
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10 minutes ago, Ian2 wrote
I think some WP7 devs (who didn't get the SDK) might be looking elsewhere at the moment. Hopefully for MS that is Windows 8 but I'm sure they will also be losing a few to 'Collateral Damage'.
Do you think they would jump to different platform instead of waiting just a few weeks?
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@cbae:Not the vast majority, no. But I kind of hope a few do.

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Some already have. It's been a very rocky road leading upto this big event (3 screens and a cloud coming together), and I know many very talented developers who've given up and moved on. There's bound to be a few more. I just hope things can settle down soon and that the vision proves out to be beneficial for all involved.
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3 minutes ago, wkempf wrote
Some already have. It's been a very rocky road leading upto this big event (3 screens and a cloud coming together), and I know many very talented developers who've given up and moved on. There's bound to be a few more. I just hope things can settle down soon and that the vision proves out to be beneficial for all involved.
Hey, that's more opportunity for those that stick it out then, as Ian is alluding to.
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I agree that there is zero short-term demand for WP8 apps. Why the rush to get the SDK? I doubt many people will rush to buy WP8 devices at launch. You'd have until at least Thanksgiving to get an app in order for the holiday buying season. I expect we'll see a huge flood of apps in the first quarter or next year.
I hope MS has something good up its sleeve, otherwise all of this secrecy is pointless. I wonder what the features are that they're hiding, and will they make a huge splash in the market. The hardware is definitely looking nice.
The lines at the Apple stores were a lot shorter this time around. I think the iPhone hype is finally dying off.
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I've got a reason... I have some apps I want to create that will work across devices, i.e. WP8 and W8 (and technically even Android and iOS). Until we have the WP8 SDK this is only possible with herculean effort, since you can't really use the WP7 SDK on W8, and you can use WinRT anywhere except on W8. Further, the portable library support is also going to be much improved when WP8 SDK is available. So, I'm in a holding pattern until I can get the WP8 SDK.
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50 minutes ago, spivonious wrote
I hope MS has something good up its sleeve, otherwise all of this secrecy is pointless. I wonder what the features are that they're hiding, and will they make a huge splash in the market. The hardware is definitely looking nice.
I quite agree.
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The guys at the Windows Developer Show talked to Cliff Simpkins about getting the WP8 SDK and he couldn't really tell them too much more than we already know.
http://windowsdevelopershow.com/2012/09/episode-084-let-rick-on-the-show/
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14 hours ago, Dr Herbie wrote
*snip*
I can't decide if you're just a terrible judge of character, or a raging egotist.
Herbie
Well since I'm so non-judgmental it must be the latter...
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The problem WP7 had was that there just wasn't good hardware. This is finally changing, so hopefully that hurdle is removed. The Lumia 920 kicks the retina out of the iPhone 5 in almost every aspect other than size/weight and raw performance. Everything else is better (based on what specs we know and the few hands-on reviews we have seen so far: display, camera, sound recording, battery life, NFC, etc). Now it's funny to see people suddenly saying specs no longer matter when somehow it mattered a lot previously.
Of course there is the big issue of how overhyped the iPhone is, and no matter how little the improvement is over the previous version, people will line up.
1 day ago, spivonious wrote
The lines at the Apple stores were a lot shorter this time around. I think the iPhone hype is finally dying off.
I have not heard this (then again I try to ignore the hype). Do you have any links on this?
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