Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Sat, 25 May 2013 10:19:16 GMT Sat, 25 May 2013 10:19:16 GMT Rev9 23 -23 -1 Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-does-indeed-have-their-own-windows-phone

 

Making their own tablet, and now their own phone -- MS are becoming Apple! Tongue Out

Any Softies willing to end their careers and tell us more?

Herbie

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/76cd9aaefca24d16ac6aa0df00b012a4#76cd9aaefca24d16ac6aa0df00b012a4 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:41:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/76cd9aaefca24d16ac6aa0df00b012a4#76cd9aaefca24d16ac6aa0df00b012a4 Herbie Smith 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Dr Herbie/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? So at the Build conference (details which are still secret),  they give out a Microsoft Tablet, the Microsoft phone, and the new Xbox all running windows 8.   Thats a story that gets developers on board and puts a big bullet into Apple and Android.  Only 4 weeks till cat is out of the bag but I think leaks start coming more rapidly

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/6a711a965dba4b6d942ba0df00bd2ebb#6a711a965dba4b6d942ba0df00bd2ebb Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:28:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/6a711a965dba4b6d942ba0df00bd2ebb#6a711a965dba4b6d942ba0df00bd2ebb TexasToast 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/TexasToast/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? @TexasToast:I don't think a rumour will materialise into hardware given out at Build in less than 3 weeks.

(But it's a sweet idea)

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/d6f7e3bf199b498fb4aea0df00c00e17#d6f7e3bf199b498fb4aea0df00c00e17 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:39:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/d6f7e3bf199b498fb4aea0df00c00e17#d6f7e3bf199b498fb4aea0df00c00e17 Ian Walker 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Ian2/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? So it would be like the MS version of the Nexus with the Lumia 920 being the GS3 of WP8 phones.
I guess as long as an MS phone is only ever sold unlocked and mostly online (and maybe in MS stores) then it would just be the "reference" phone for geekier costumers.
We'll see.
As long as it's lighter than a 920 and looks at least as good as a Nokia it could end up being a nice device, if it exists but I doubt MS could just put out it's first ever phone and get everything as good as a company with such experience as Nokia. Of course from what we've seen, their first computer ever (Surface) looks like amazing hardware.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/24bba51a299b43609878a0df00c4507d#24bba51a299b43609878a0df00c4507d Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:54:45 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/24bba51a299b43609878a0df00c4507d#24bba51a299b43609878a0df00c4507d dentaku 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/dentaku/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? Ah rumour as fact.

http://www.informationweek.com/windows/microsoft-news/microsoft-we-wont-build-own-windows-phon/240002635

Asked in an interview if Microsoft planned to apply that strategy to the smartphone market, Greg Sullivan, senior marketing manager for Windows Phone, said, "No, we do not."


And that was in June.

 

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Herbie

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/eab2481abd0a40fcb136a0df00d0bc05#eab2481abd0a40fcb136a0df00d0bc05 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:39:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/eab2481abd0a40fcb136a0df00d0bc05#eab2481abd0a40fcb136a0df00d0bc05 Herbie Smith 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Dr Herbie/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? http://www.denverpost.com/rawnews/ci_21687244/nokia-sell-hq-finland-but-no-plans-move

Meanwhile, in Gotham City, Nokia plans to sell its corporate headquarters in Finland ~ $390M. 

Will they be assimilated? (and all their phones are belong to us?) NOK => MSFT?

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/698ada4073584d4381bfa0df00d67d2b#698ada4073584d4381bfa0df00d67d2b Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:00:55 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/698ada4073584d4381bfa0df00d67d2b#698ada4073584d4381bfa0df00d67d2b JohnAskew 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JohnAskew/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? Lets look at the facts we have today. 

1. Nokia deal with partnering with Microsoft and today Nokia looking to sell HQ facility for cash influx.

2. Build conference was a last minute decision around June/July timeframe when windows 8 phone idea starting becoming real.

3. Microsoft already demoed tablet with windows 8 at last years conference.  Tablet is not enough to make a headline this year. (even ARM based one) 

4. The PC / laptop / ultrabook is not dead nor is there a future where mainstream business/engineers/accountants use tablets to do work.  More investment still will go into PC's.

5. Xbox is dominating now and Microsoft is not going to let this platform get old.  Tight lips here on this one but you know the new Xbox is coming very soon.

Based on this I think Microsofts phone will be a temporary item for prototyping and not for general audience.  Surface tablet also will be phased out once vendors get on board to understand what Microsoft wants them to deliver.   Microsoft will stay Microsoft and not become MicroHard.   Making hardware is not where they want to go.  But they want the hardware vendors to know that if they promote Google Android for much longer that Microsoft will play hardball with them. 

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/6cef1076beb74911a045a0df00d8e93d#6cef1076beb74911a045a0df00d8e93d Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:09:44 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/6cef1076beb74911a045a0df00d8e93d#6cef1076beb74911a045a0df00d8e93d TexasToast 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/TexasToast/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? "Microhard", like it..

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/200d6a79cd6747e8b52da0df00e30a92#200d6a79cd6747e8b52da0df00e30a92 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:46:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/200d6a79cd6747e8b52da0df00e30a92#200d6a79cd6747e8b52da0df00e30a92 Ian Walker 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Ian2/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone?

, Ian2 wrote

"Microhard", like it..

For some reason I have the urge to say "Fnarr, Fnarr".

Herbie

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, TexasToast wrote

So at the Build conference (details which are still secret),  they give out a Microsoft Tablet, the Microsoft phone, and the new Xbox all running windows 8.   Thats a story that gets developers on board and puts a big bullet into Apple and Android.  Only 4 weeks till cat is out of the bag but I think leaks start coming more rapidly

That would be fantastic. But I don't think we'll see the new Xbox until Christmas 2013. All we've had leaked so far are some very early design ideas.

I think devs get an HTC 8X at Build to go with their ARM Surface and copy of Windows 8 Pro and VS2012 Pro.

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, spivonious wrote

*snip*

I think devs get an HTC 8X at Build to go with their ARM Surface and copy of Windows 8 Pro and VS2012 Pro.

I second that bet. They've got Nokia well positioned to represent their "premium" phone. The only reason they can't sell it art a premium price is market share.

I suspect that part of the reason Microsoft states that the Surface tablets won't affect OEMs is that they will be priced really high as a "premium" option. If OEMs steal some design ideas from it no sweat off Microsoft's back since I don't believe they really ever intended to become massively invested in hardware (unless of course people fall for it like they did with Apple's hardware then that's a whole other ballgame).

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, Dr Herbie wrote

*snip*

For some reason I have the urge to say "Fnarr, Fnarr".

Herbie

In March 2011, the Oxford English Dictionary announced it had added an entry for "fnarr fnarr" as part of its regular update.

Doh!   And y'all blame us Yanks for changing the language for the worse?

"Tsssk Tsssk".     Tongue Out

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/4214b41d863343f5bc27a0df01015432#4214b41d863343f5bc27a0df01015432 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:36:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/4214b41d863343f5bc27a0df01015432#4214b41d863343f5bc27a0df01015432 JohnAskew 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JohnAskew/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? @JohnAskew: When we do it, it's "culture", when you do it it's "a bastardisation of our great language". Smiley

Herbie

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/a720f5eadc76478bad35a0df01037b68#a720f5eadc76478bad35a0df01037b68 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:44:44 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/a720f5eadc76478bad35a0df01037b68#a720f5eadc76478bad35a0df01037b68 Herbie Smith 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Dr Herbie/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? http://www.finbarrsaunders.com/

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, Dr Herbie wrote

@JohnAskew: When we do it, it's "culture", when you do it it's "a bastardization of our great language". Smiley

Herbie

FIFY Smiley

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, spivonious wrote

*snip*

I think devs get an HTC 8X at Build to go with their ARM Surface and copy of Windows 8 Pro and VS2012 Pro.

The MS guys over here are touting a fairly utilitarian boxy ARM device which looks to be a developer only / testing prototype - happy to say that my 4 Apps seem to run OK out of the box so hats off to MS, albeit early days yet. 

Could be this Nokia tablet we see more of at BUILD? http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-working-on-a-windows-rt-tablet-currently-used-for-app-testing/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Have to be honest I would also love a Lumia 920 - I am sold on the Nokia Apps and like the big screen / wireless charging. 

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/230ca8367b8f4660a1c4a0df01095ab3#230ca8367b8f4660a1c4a0df01095ab3 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:06:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/230ca8367b8f4660a1c4a0df01095ab3#230ca8367b8f4660a1c4a0df01095ab3 Ian Walker 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Ian2/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? @cbae:

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/bf91464aff9d4a62bb48a0df01097748#bf91464aff9d4a62bb48a0df01097748 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:06:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/bf91464aff9d4a62bb48a0df01097748#bf91464aff9d4a62bb48a0df01097748 Sven Groot 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sven Groot/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone?

, Sven Groot wrote

But the dutch speak four languages and smoke marijuana.

Yes, but they're cheating.

 

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/0e89d6ea9f2b47feae1ea0df0110707c#0e89d6ea9f2b47feae1ea0df0110707c Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:31:55 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/0e89d6ea9f2b47feae1ea0df0110707c#0e89d6ea9f2b47feae1ea0df0110707c Ian Walker 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Ian2/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? @Sven Groot: One of the funniest comedians ever.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/b29925e39c35417f8360a0df01116fe4#b29925e39c35417f8360a0df01116fe4 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:35:33 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/b29925e39c35417f8360a0df01116fe4#b29925e39c35417f8360a0df01116fe4 Scott 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/spivonious/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? Both Nokia and HTC offer strong lower and higher end phones. So I dont see the need to make their own phone. They make Surface because Windows is not Winphone. It would make sense to make WinMo8 phone, but, since we have WinPhone, it no longer need such thing, unless OEM failed big time at hardware.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/5e21e51eaa0540ada477a0df0140924d#5e21e51eaa0540ada477a0df0140924d Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:27:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/First-the-Surface-Tablet-and-now-a-Microsoft-Phone/5e21e51eaa0540ada477a0df0140924d#5e21e51eaa0540ada477a0df0140924d magicalclick 23 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/magicalclick/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - First the Surface Tablet and now a Microsoft Phone? Maybe this  new phone does not make phone calls.  I know you think I am joking but if you only have a data plan and text messaging you could save alot of money.   On top of that, none of the high schoolers I know pick up the phone or make calls.  Its for the young generation.  Its all text messaging.    The new MicroMute. 

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