, cbae wrote

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Uh, you're confusing what you said for what I said. Here is what you said:

Seriously? Let's look again shall we:

, cbae wrote

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Why bother with removing the file names? You just look at the picture and decide which one you want, right?

, AndyC wrote

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OK. So how do I get rid of them then? They're kind of annyoing me and they don't mean anything to me and they clog up search results when I'm searching for stuff that does have a number in it.

Yeah, you're right. Clearly all about the folders. How silly of me. And how do I create these folders without names then? I use ad-hoc groupings of stuff all the time in real life and being able to do the same on computer would be massively beneficial.

Or, you know, you could just accept that, in at least this tiny, tiny way, I might have a point.

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Avoid answering a question? That's a laugh. You dodged one of my questions 3 times. I gave up asking it to you, but I'll try again.

First, to answer your question, I don't know why things are so hard for you. I truly can't fathom why. Is it truly mentally challenging for you or are you just being lazy and don't want to provide any input to the computer? If it's mentally challenging for you, then I have no suggestion except to wait until computers can read your mind. If you're just being lazy, then get better software that does more of what you want done automatically, or wait until computers can read your mind. Happy?

No, not really. Zune can do exactly the sort of thing I want but it's limited to music. The photo app can do what I want but it's limited to photos.

When I'm working and a massive crisis breaks out and the place ends up being flooded by more Freedom of Information Act requests than you can possibly imagine and all I want to do is quickly collate the vast hordes of information available in wildly different format according to relatively arbitrary requests. Technology lets me down and I have to use multiple tools, manually collate things and devote mass amounts of people resources to solving the problem. It's not that we can't make that technology, it's simply that we haven't.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that telling me "You're holding it wrong" just isn't a good enough answer? And notice I didn't say wrong, because I'm very well aware that ideas and opinions are neither right nor wrong, as much as you seem to think otherwise.

Now, answer my questions. What is your solution to this alleged problem of programs being too difficult to use? To remove any direct access to the file system from the OS? Or to the gimp the eff out of the file system so that users can directly access the file system through the OS but prevent them from creating nested folders? And, most importantly, how is this solution, manifested in some magical change to the file system, going to allow programs to be more in-tune with either your mentally challenged self or your lazy self?

Q: "What is your solution to this alleged problem of programs being too difficult to use? "

A: I've already said, a more dynamic UI based on the searching and filtering of metadata and tags using the self same technologies that exist today

Q: To remove any direct access to the file system from the OS?

A: I don't really care what "the OS" sees at a lower level, though I fully expect it to be a traditional filesystem. This doesn't need to be exposed to end users (except, perhaps, through advanced diagnostic tools). See things like iPhone and iPad for proof this can be done today, unicorn free.

Q: Or to the gimp the eff out of the file system so that users can directly access the file system through the OS but prevent them from creating nested folders?

A: Classifying things based on metadata can create hierarcies similar to nested folders, when it makes sense to do so, and so we end up with a much more powerful system of organization that allows us to work the way we think about things and change our mind about how it needs to be arranged whenever it suits us to do so.

Q: And, most importantly, how is this solution, manifested in some magical change to the file system, going to allow programs to be more in-tune with either your mentally challenged self or your lazy self?

A: At the most basic level, the file requester would let me get to what I wanted to get to, based on the specific query I had in mind at the time, quicker. More importantly applications can more easily be constructed in a more content-centric fashion, because the developer is freed from the burden of having to re-write and re-design an efficient search query system for every application they develop.

, magicalclick wrote

@AndyC:

 I will give it a try if someone is able to make an efficient prototype.

Stick your music in Zune or Windows Media Player. Watch with delight as you are able to view it in different ways, by artist, album, year, etc. Now imagine it could do more than merely music. Hope that helps.