It seems that the two camps, over various threads, have a theme. In one camp it is believed that the 2 parties involved in a dispute or conflict should make every effort to resolve that dispute or conflict among themselves before a 3rd party is brought into the mix. In the other camp it appears that the 2 parties should immediately be involved with a 3rd party in the mix. Barring an international Channel 9 sponspored indian leg wrestling match, how are we going to keep from derailing threads?