Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Just migrated to VS2012...what's up with the Flat look and feel ? http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Just migrated to VS2012...what's up with the Flat look and feel ? http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Sun, 26 May 2013 07:27:03 GMT Sun, 26 May 2013 07:27:03 GMT Rev9 18 -18 -1 Coffeehouse - Just migrated to VS2012...what's up with the Flat look and feel ? While I like all the 2012 overall.....really ? All capital letters in the Main menu, flat buttons with no depth....what is this ? pre windows 3.0 world ?

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Is the entire industry that has 3D gradient buttons everywhere doing it wrong ? If 2-D flat cartoons is really that cool, Pixar would have never been born. 

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Get off my lawn!

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, kettch wrote

Get off my lawn!

LOL

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There is an extension you can get that will lower case the menus.  Just thank your respective deity that they left the menus and didn't migrate to the Ribbon.  The typical mantra is, when you don't add anything compelling, just move stuff around and then market it as new and streamlined (I mostly mean that, though VS2012 did add quiet a bit of support for new technologies so I personally give it a pass).  Office on the other hand, I don't think they've added anything in the last decade that I actually use or need.  I could be using Office 2000 personally.  Office upgrades have added nothing for me really other than having to find the new locations of buttons and menus that I previously knew the locations of (the one single exception for me personally is SharePoint integration).

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, Srikanth_t wrote

Is the entire industry that has 3D gradient buttons everywhere doing it wrong ? If 2-D flat cartoons is really that cool, Pixar would have never been born. 

I don't need my code editor and symbol pushing interface to be Pixar-inspired.

(As much as I love graphics.)

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, jinx101 wrote

*snip*  

I could be using Office 2000 personally. 

Not if you are using an Exchange server released in the last decade.

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, Richard.Hein wrote

You'll adapt.  Then VS2010 looks annoying after a while.  Typical experience, really.  Also, they stuck a blue theme back in the latest update, so you can get blue back ... but I tried it and honestly don't like it ... rather have the dark theme or the grey theme personally.

As much as I hate on VS 2012 I do appreciate they went the extra mile to bring back the blue theme. There some hope in that.

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, elmer wrote

*snip*

Not if you are using an Exchange server released in the last decade.

The exchange server I use has it's web site enabled that works pretty well (granted, it's not as friendly as the full blown client.. but, works for me since I really only use it for email, my calendar and shared calendars).  You did make me think of one caveat... at work I'm required to use Lync (Lync messaging is built into the Exchange web-site but I can't make phone calls anymore without it). 

 

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, elmer wrote

*snip*

Not if you are using an Exchange server released in the last decade.

Exchange 2003 supports Outlook 2000, as does Exchange 2007 if you configure it right (source: personal experience).

The compatibility matrix on TechNet is a bit inaccurate.:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff728623(v=exchg.141).aspx

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Generalizing (and dependent on your requirements) this works both ways... newer Exchange gradually drops support for older Outlook, and newer Outlook gradually drops support for older Exchange (e.g. Office 2010 won't support Exchange 5.5)

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