I might disagree with the ideas made in the video, but it is quite funny....

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdwk35_dylin-prestly-microsoft-net-vs-java_tech

It's funny, makes me wonder if all java people are gay

For example have anyone noticed that we don't get to choose between silverlight, flash and html5 on many microsoft sites ? we are forced to install craplight..erm..i mean silverlight to watch videos.

At least adobe fixes flash bugs eventually, microsofts plainly refuses to fix bugs and follow rules (ex the good citizen rule)

6 hours ago,Mr Crash wrote

For example have anyone noticed that we don't get to choose between silverlight, flash and html5 on many microsoft sites ? we are forced to install craplight..erm..i mean silverlight to watch videos.

Apple forces you to use quicktime. Adobe forces you to use flash on their site. Youtube, hulu, vimeo, etc force you to use flash.

Your point?

(ms also uses flash on their sites btw)

You're also not "forced" to do anything. If you find your only choice is through one platform, it's because the other platforms "forced" your hand, not because the one platform that you inevitably chose "forced" you to choose it. Now, if you were "forced" from above to adopt a certain platform, then it is that higher agent that "forced" you into using that platform.

Choices don't "force" you to choose them, external sources do.

1 day ago,Klaus Enevoldsen wrote

Did you notice the old Windows sound that was played when the child says he uses Java? Also, did you notice the Bill Gates picture on the wall in the dinning room next to the father?

also when dad sets down the book the cloth on the nightstand has 4 stripes in the windows / ms colors....  yeah the thing is *LOADED* with small bits of MS colors / logos / sounds etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3qkQROb_k

> Apple forces you to use quicktime.

Apple will always be apple, they suck and they know it but got their head up their * so refuse to acknowledge it, anyway there exists open source implementations for quicktime (ah reverse engineers thank you!!) so no problem there

hulu, well lets just say, their kissing some * so they can get the rights to the content, one way they do that is to use flash which the rights holders think is secure, lol.

btw flash open source implementation is in progress. adobe's locked in business model will fail

> (ms also uses flash on their sites btw)

erm where ? or are you thinking of the ads (which might not be from microsoft, duh!) ?

> You're also not "forced" to do anything. If you find your only choice is through one platform, it's  because the other platforms "forced" your hand, not because the one platform that you inevitably chose "forced" you to choose it. Now, if you were "forced" from above to adopt a certain platform, then it is that higher agent that "forced" you into using that platform.

> Choices don't "force" you to choose them, external sources do.

Your "logic" is flawed.

Having only one option is not a choice.

>  it's because the other platforms "forced" your hand

No, it's because microsoft like adobe thinks it can lock in users (ex not providing information so an alternative/open source/competitive version can be created)

competition is good, monopoly is bad, yes it is that simple (not always but most of the time)

Good example: Ever heard of the browser wars ?

the only thing i liked about surface was the screen size and touch, everything else was horrible

ex the touch response/latency time, ew vista slow