Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Oh come on, no Mars thread? http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Oh come on, no Mars thread? http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Sat, 18 May 2013 10:04:21 GMT Sat, 18 May 2013 10:04:21 GMT Rev9 28 -28 -1 Coffeehouse - Oh come on, no Mars thread? I'm seriously disappointed in all of you.

 

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Herbie

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http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/08/06/uk-usa-mars-idUKBRE87506620120806

 

Now we've just got to wait for two years to see if they find anything ...

Herbie

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On the contrary. If they used JavaScript we'd probably have Mars bases by now because of the improved productivity. Type casting couldn't make rockets go boom, because JavaScript only has one number type. So there. Smiley

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... to the GNOME project as well (well at least looks Metacity to me).

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Wink

Edit; Thanks Sven!

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Clearlooks Theme for Metacity/Compiz, which is also default in Gnome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Clearlooks_2.20.png

One of the GUIs based tab and button styles looks like unstyled Swing (Java GUI toolkit), although another GUI looked unfamiliar, possibly Motif/Lesstif based.

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, Maddus Mattus wrote

Good to see they fixed the empirical/metric system bug,...

 

Wink

That's the imperial system. Empirical is something else entirely. Wink

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, Bass wrote

@TexasToast

On the contrary. If they used JavaScript we'd probably have Mars bases by now because of the improved productivity. Type casting couldn't make rockets go boom, because JavaScript only has one number type. So there. Smiley

Type-casting happens all the time in Javascript. Difference is that the programmer doesn't get to choose when or how it happens - it just happens under the hood without telling you.

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I'm also amazed how few thruster pushes it took in the atmosphere to line up with the landing site. Just the fact that they can throw something from earth at another planet and plop it right where they want to....amazing.

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, giovanni wrote

@PaoloM: I think that was the default the last time I used Solaris running on a Sun workstation (which admittedly was a few years ago). Technically are they still Sun workstations or Oracle workstations?

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/673498main_msl_reax_full.jpg

In the lower right corner, you can see clearly the Sun logo. I have no idea if Oracle has ever rebranded those kits...

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Nice video combining animation of Curiosity's descent with the team's reactions.

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CDE is quite old and not really maintained, but it recently went open source which is a positive development for those places still using it for some reason.

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First of all, the window manager is just there to provide, you know Smiley, window management. There's no application functionality like file management or anything like that built in. You have a WM (I used Motif 1.2), a base toolkit (Xt) and then you expand that with homegrown controls.

You can see some of that work here.

The point of having little extra functionality is to reduce the overall "attack" surface of the workstation; security is not a primary concer here, but process interactions and active tasks should be kept to a minimum to increase the responsivness of the system.

Real time requirements are also not high in the list, as these workstations provide monitor & control functionality only. It should be possible to completely yank them from the system and the mission should not be affected in the least.

That all leads me to think that no, it is probably not Gnome Smiley

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What I found interesting was what looks like a Joy-Stick control on the front (rear) top.

Who (or what) is supposed to be using that ?

 

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, elmer wrote

http://www.360cities.net/image/curiosity-rover-martian-solar-day-2

What I found interesting was what looks like a Joy-Stick control on the front (rear) top.

Who (or what) is supposed to be using that ?

The Kinect isn't available on Mars yet.

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I recommend this video as a backgrounder:

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http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future

C

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