CKurt while( ( !succeed=try() ) ) { }

Oct 28, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Seems a bit boring at first. The only 'new' stuff announced has been:

# Profiling tools for Phone applications (probabbly Silverlight apps only)
# IE9 Dev Preview 6 (but no new beta using the updated engine)
# Library to consume OData feed in C# applications (demo in Silverlight app, but probabbly also other .NET apps)

But most of all. No Silverlight 5 news!?
Next up: cloud computing
UPDATE:

The pixar demo was really cool! Puts azure on the spot and really shows the posibilities for smaller companies! My main point is Azure got real. You can see the server via 'connect' and remote desktop. You can deploy Windows Server Images to the cloud like it would be hardware locally (making moving your app much much easier, still running on a 'machine' but you don't own the machine).

Channel9 demo is cool! You guys did some great work! Ask for a raze, you have earned it!
rhm

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:13 AM

Yup. But then Microsoft develops most of its still out in the open so unlike Apple they don't have any big bombs to drop. Wasn't SL4 only shown at MIX10? Probably a bit early for that.
I'm listening with just audio. Bob Muglia has a very similar voice to BillG in the way it goes nasal and whiney when he gets enthused.
androidi

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:22 AM

@CKurt: Nice of the team to have something interesting to watch while waiting on the sessions.
http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Anders-Hejlsberg-Introducing-Async
felix9 the cat that walked by itself

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Channel9 Backstage on the show !
PerfectPhase "This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:34 AM

I'm digging the Azure changes! Just what I need at the moment!
rhm

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM

The Pixar video was blocked from international viewers Oh, and how patronising was the presenter from Pixar?!
As for Azure: Looks like they are trying to compete more with Amazon EC2. They finally figured out that submitting a package into a webform isn't the way most people like to work. Honestly, when Mark showed RDPing into a running instance of Channel9, there should have been a cheer because that's a big 'opening' of the system - making the cloud feel more real. Shows how little most developers care about Azure.
CKurt while( ( !succeed=try() ) ) { }

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM

@rhm: I cheered in my chair at home
Team Foundation Server in de cloud! Cloud subversion seems ideal!
PerfectPhase "This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Team build in the cloud!!
PerfectPhase "This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Oct 28, 2010 at 10:47 AM

Please tell me that Lab Manager works on Azure....
Reporting services on Sql-Azure, thumbs up!
spivonious

Oct 28, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Wow, lots of Azure stuff! I don't really see the benefit except for large workloads, a la the Pixar renderer, and for web hosting.
PaoloM Hypermediocrity

Oct 28, 2010 at 11:25 AM

The WHOLE POINT of Azure is large workloads...
JPeless

Oct 28, 2010 at 11:30 AM

@rhm:actually, I watched the keynote from the US and the content was blocked for me as well.
CKurt while( ( !succeed=try() ) ) { }

Oct 28, 2010 at 11:33 AM

@PaoloM: I know, the Azure stuff is great! Looking good, I might still be a student, but I really have to get on the bandwagon.
But I just expected some new stuff about the next version of the "Device Ring" from Windows Live Mesh and about the API model of the new Windows Live Mesh (like Live Mesh bèta had). It would be a great thing to influince the consumer directly.
Also to have more impact as a service the Messenger Connect team should really get out there. How come I can't find a Wordpress plugin to add a "Share" button with messenger? I want to login to a wordpress blog with my Live ID. Provide plugins for that! I missed that (guess I'll have to make them myself)
spivonious

Oct 28, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Having tons of buffering issues with LINQ to Everything. Anyone else having issues?
PerfectPhase "This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Oct 28, 2010 at 11:36 AM

@PaoloM: I think that given these changes it become a lot more accessible for smaller companies as well. We have apps that we could never put in azure before but if I can just upload a Hyper-V image per customer, that’s awesome. We've been using EC2 until now but just being able to move an image as is from our hyper-v servers to the cloud is very enticing!
PerfectPhase "This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Oct 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM

@spivonious: yep, calmed down now. Found it helps if you come of live and run a couple of minutes behind.
spivonious

Oct 28, 2010 at 12:12 PM

28 minutes ago, PerfectPhase wrote
@PaoloM: I think that given these changes it become a lot more accessible for smaller companies as well. We have apps that we could never put in azure before but if I can just upload a Hyper-V image per customer, that’s awesome. We've been using EC2 until now but just being able to move an image as is from our hyper-v servers to the cloud is very enticing!
Yes, I can see the benefit of that too. No more installing software, just have it run on an image in the cloud. Of course, this doesn't make sense for some apps, but with an adequate connection to the cloud the customer would never notice a difference. Licensing would be much easier to handle as well.
rhm

Oct 28, 2010 at 12:39 PM

These changes are good, but what Azure desperately needs is to be less expensive.

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