Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Right out of the gate... http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Right out of the gate... http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Wed, 22 May 2013 22:29:28 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 22:29:28 GMT Rev9 22 -22 -1 Coffeehouse - Right out of the gate... I had such high hopes for the 900 too. Aggressive pricing. Actively promoting the phone. And now this. Not gonna win over too many hearts and minds with a data connectivity problem...

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/b0315cee199b44c99b4aa0300066d353#b0315cee199b44c99b4aa0300066d353 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:14:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/b0315cee199b44c99b4aa0300066d353#b0315cee199b44c99b4aa0300066d353 DeathByVisualStudio 22 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Right out of the gate... @DeathByVisualStudio: From what I've read it is not a data corruption problem, it's a data connectivity problem; big difference.

-Josh

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Either way, it is disappointing. Sad  I am actually planning to buy a Nokia phone when my contract ends, WP8 because my contract ends around December (can get early as August). But, this discouraged me. I have HTC, it works great, but, it looks too office like. Based on this news, I am leaning toward staying with HTC, just that their phone doesn't look fun. Crying

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/a4cab83a0e40447982a0a030006daef3#a4cab83a0e40447982a0a030006daef3 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:39:20 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/a4cab83a0e40447982a0a030006daef3#a4cab83a0e40447982a0a030006daef3 AndyC 22 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/AndyC/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Right out of the gate... And if you remember, many other phones also had similar issues at one time or another (including the iPhone, see here and here).

Plus Nokia already said they found the problem and will have a fix on April 16th, so I won't be too worried.

Tell you this though, in almost all areas my Lumia 900 is quite a bit better than the iPhone that it is replacing. For instance there is no comparison when it comes to call quality. Those of us with iPhones forgot what calls are supposed to sound like. The speaker phone functionality is outstanding on the Lumia 900. We can always tell when someone has an iPhone in conference calls - you can barely hear them properly (they keep cutting out) and we always end up asking them to turn speaker mode off.

So yea, it is a bit embarrassing, especially after Nokia's "The beta test is over" campaign, but once they fix the problem, I doubt it will have any significant impact.

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Or AT&T for that matter. Because I remember AT&T took obscene amount of time to test NoDo for my Surround. So, I expect AT&T to test connectivity like crazy.

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, DeathByVisualStudio wrote

I had such high hopes for the 900 too. Aggressive pricing. Actively promoting the phone. And now this. Not gonna win over too many hearts and minds with a data corruption problem...

Who said anything about data corruption? Seems they found a bug that caused dropped data connections while in airplane mode. Not only do they have a fix ready to go, they have offered refunds and a replacement for what sounds to me like a rather small problem.

I think they've gone above and beyond on this one, and I suspect somewhere behind the scenes, Microsoft is footing the bill.

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, Ray7 wrote

*snip*

Who said anything about data corruption?

well, maybe this happend ... Death by visualstudio started to read the linked article. Please notice that there is a linebreak between "loss of data" and "connectivity". So maybe it stopped reading in the middle of the sentence and instead when to c9 and posted his message ..

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, JoshRoss wrote

@DeathByVisualStudio: From what I've read it is not a data corruption problem, it's a data connectivity problem; big difference.

-Josh

Corrected. Thanks.

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, DeathByVisualStudio wrote

@Ray7: Airplane more "or after the phone is turned off". I think the ability to have your data connection keep working after you turn your phone off (or back on again) is pretty important don't you?

Yup, very important. But the blog post said that the problem occurred in 'some cases' so how many people were affected?

It certainly didn't get much press. This is the first I've heard of it.

 

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It is good that technology can do more and more complex things.  We just need to find a way to allow end users to see inside the sausage factory to appreciate it.

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/a398b5df96dd49fd9314a030013c434d#a398b5df96dd49fd9314a030013c434d Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:11:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/a398b5df96dd49fd9314a030013c434d#a398b5df96dd49fd9314a030013c434d DeathByVisualStudio 22 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Right out of the gate... @Bass:

Good plan. Except for those pesky few million 2-year contracts you'd need to pay every month.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/9d08bf7b92d648d39c10a0300141bf74#9d08bf7b92d648d39c10a0300141bf74 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:31:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Right-out-of-the-gate/9d08bf7b92d648d39c10a0300141bf74#9d08bf7b92d648d39c10a0300141bf74 BitFlipper 22 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/BitFlipper/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Right out of the gate... So would someone recommand this one?

My current phone is over 5 years and the battery operation time has become a bit unreliable. Guess time to replace soon and want a Windows Phone at reasonable price.

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I reccomend "Live Tile News"

</TongueOutOfCheek>

BTW, should be getting my Lumia 800 tomorrow, will make sure the above 2 apps are the first in line ....

 

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