Starting first Windows 8 app...

...and finding out that Microsoft VirtualPC won't run it, need to use Oracles VirtualBox

I'm guessing VirtualPC is just another afterthought product, like that SyncToy.

But I am liking this VirtualBox, intuitive and gives you steps in the right places on what to do. And Windows 8 and WIndows 8 (64 bit) are options in their OS dropdown...

Did you use Oracle and "intuitive" in the same sentence?

And I work for a Microsoft

52 minutes ago, ScottWelker wrote

Did you use Oracle and "intuitive" in the same sentence?

And I work for a Microsoft vendor...is this a #win or #fail...hehe

Just hoping it's smooth. Being able to REALLY develop in a VM, hook into TFS, etc.

*cross fingers*

@Harlequin: What's wrong with SyncToy? I use it. It works just fine for me.

I like SyncToy too, but it does have bugs. And it takes 50 hours to sync 1TB, which is kind of slow.

Well, VirtualBox was an acquisition after all.

(Company was formerly known as Innotek.)

Jan 23, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Harlequin wrote

I'm guessing VirtualPC is just another afterthought product, like that SyncToy.

Virtual PC is just the client version of Hyper-V, and that's not a small product at Microsoft, since they use Hyper-V to test Windows, and Windows is kindof a big deal to MS.

@Harlequin: I just run Windows 8 off a virtual harddisk, I really hate vritual machines.

Unless they changed something, Windows 8 runs like crap on virtual machines. I used VirtualBox and had a laggy lagfest experience. Microsoft really should fix that, since a lot of people use VMs these days to run Windows.

17 minutes ago, Bass wrote

Unless they changed something, Windows 8 runs like crap on virtual machines. I used VirtualBox and had a laggy lagfest experience. Microsoft really should fix that, since a lot of people use VMs these days to run Windows.

The worst bit is the corners of the window - you have about four pixels of click space there, which is great if you're on a real computer since your mouse gets clipped to the screen and so you just move your mouse to the correct corner and all is well. But when you're actually click in in a VM window, and your mouse isn't being clipped, it's actually pretty annoying trying to click on the exact four pixels that Microsoft designated as clickable.

3 hours ago, Bass wrote

Unless they changed something, Windows 8 runs like crap on virtual machines. I used VirtualBox and had a laggy lagfest experience. Microsoft really should fix that, since a lot of people use VMs these days to run Windows.

{citation needed}

3 hours ago, Larry Osterman wrote

*snip*

+1 on Maddus' response - Ed Bott had a good write-up on how to boot from VHD for testing Windows 8.

+= 2  I run it from VHD on my little ultrabook and it works like a charm...

1 hour ago, PaoloM wrote

*snip*

{citation needed}

I asked everybody in this room "who runs Windows in a VM" and of the respondents, 100% said yes.

Survey of one person. Terms and conditions apply.

We couldn't use VMs because our Blades are full or something silly, so we just put Win8 on one of the convertible tablets someone got, think it was PDC 10; and just remoted into that for development.

And yes, I probably could have got a VM on my machine to do the same thing, but doing front-end work I usually have PhotoShop/Illustrator and other stuff open, so RAM would probably end up being an issue.