I get the feeling this will be another never-ending debate on C9, a la climate change. Smiley

Consumers don't create jobs, they support existing jobs. Business owners create jobs, and most business owners make over $250,000 per year (amount chosen by Obama to mean "rich people").

Money != fishing rods. Education == fishing rods, Affordable (not free) healthcare == fishing rods, equal opportunity == fishing rods. Money == fish, and the costs will keep rising until we stop handing out fish and start distributing rods.

Handing out money to the poor is just going to continue the welfare cycle and cause the class divide to grow.

Taxes need to be adjusted so that everyone pays the same amount. Get rid of deductions and credits. You make $500,000? Pay your $50,000. You make $10,000? Pay your $1,000. You don't want to pay into a useless retirement pension fund (i.e. Social Security) because you're doing your own retirement savings (401(k), IRA, money under the mattress)? Fine, don't pay in, but don't expect anything out of it.