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Without hacking?
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21 minutes ago, Ian2 wrote
Without hacking?
Without hacking.
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Worked with a Samsung Focus on AT&T. How lame, wtf kind of testing is going on.
There are still strange quirks with a few apps though. Shazam occasionally stops listening to music, and the phone has to be rebooted. The voice search also fails to listen and the phone has to be rebooted.
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Worked for me: Samsung Omnia 7 on T-Mobile (UK).
No issues so far. Apps seem a bit snappier to start/resume and cut and paste working on selectable text.
Herbie
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I sometimes wonder if they've lost their collective minds. They're competing with androids and iphones here and somehow they've managed to blend the worst of both. you don't control of your own device (iphone) and update hell (andrioid).
combine that with the outrageously slow pace of feature development and outdated hardware, again blending the worst of iphones and androids, and it's hard to believe in this platform. I've been thinking of getting an HTC Arrive, but i wonder if I'm gonna invest in an outdated phone if i might be better getting myself an iphone 4...
I *want* to believe...
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2 minutes ago, martofsky wrote
I sometimes wonder if they've lost their collective minds. They're competing with androids and iphones here and somehow they've managed to blend the worst of both. you don't control of your own device (iphone) and update hell (andrioid).
I don't know how combining hardware options from multiple OEMs with the user experience of a consistent UI is the worst of both. With that being said, having multiple OEMs as hardware partners is bound to create some speedbumps along the way. How can it not? Until an OEM or carrier arbitrarily refuses to approve the update to a particular model, there is no "update hell" associated with WP7.
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Sounds scary, I will wait until the slow "and intentional" AT&T to finish testing.
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19 hours ago, cbae wrote
I don't know how combining hardware options from multiple OEMs with the user experience of a consistent UI is the worst of both. With that being said, having multiple OEMs as hardware partners is bound to create some speedbumps along the way. How can it not? Until an OEM or carrier arbitrarily refuses to approve the update to a particular model, there is no "update hell" associated with WP7.
I get that it's a challenging problem. But as an end user I see ultra slow updates (WinPhone7 has been out nigh 10 months and all we got was copy and paste?! no multitasking and no browser updates?), hardware that lags the competition (single core 1ghz snapdragon? The new android phones have dual core phones with quite a bit more ram and 4x better GPUs) and stil really limited carrier choices. It's really hard for me to take the plunge on a device that's obselete (the HTC Arrive) the day it <ahem> arrives. I get there are engineering challenges. But as a potential end user, I don't really care...
They're trying to compete with the Yankees (Apple) and are bringing minor league performance to the plate (obligatory baseball analogy, first day of the season
).At any rate, I deeply hope Microsoft upps it's game. I want choice and alternatives that arent apple for sure!
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@martofsky: 10 months? I am not sure were you get your numbers but it was released November 8th. That is almost 5 months.
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14 minutes ago, martofsky wrote
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I get that it's a challenging problem. But as an end user I see ultra slow updates (WinPhone7 has been out nigh 10 months and all we got was copy and paste?! no multitasking and no browser updates?), hardware that lags the competition (single core 1ghz snapdragon? The new android phones have dual core phones with quite a bit more ram and 4x better GPUs) and stil really limited carrier choices. It's really hard for me to take the plunge on a device that's obselete (the HTC Arrive) the day it <ahem> arrives. I get there are engineering challenges. But as a potential end user, I don't really care...
They're trying to compete with the Yankees (Apple) and are bringing minor league performance to the plate (obligatory baseball analogy, first day of the season
).At any rate, I deeply hope Microsoft upps it's game. I want choice and alternatives that arent apple for sure!
What aren't you getting about this? WP7 is the happy medium between iOS and Android. There's a fixed hardware specification for WP7, while there is none for Android. So you can't expect device makers to pump out new WP7 models every time the wind changes directions.
And get your facts straight. WP7 hasn't been out for 10 months, and copy and paste is actually the least of what was in the recent update. I value the performance and stability updates far greater than copy and paste.
As for the Arrive's hardware being obsolete, does it really matter if the OS is responsive 99% of the time anyway? If WP7 were any more responsive, IE on WP7 would start zooming a web page before I even touch the screen.
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Microsoft warns ChevronWP7.Updater will prevent all future official updates http://bit.ly/emAdCn
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1 hour ago, Ian2 wrote
Microsoft warns ChevronWP7.Updater will prevent all future official updates http://bit.ly/emAdCn
Scare tactic?
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How do you reflash your phone w/ a known ROM? If it's easy, I'll give Chevron a try on my Focus
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trashed my phone ... nothing worked ... couldn't start IE, make phone calls or much else. Had to to da hard reset twice ... and then my phone started to work again ... and noDo is installed and everything seems to be working just fine ...
Samsung Omnia 7
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