Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Visual Studio Express - End of Life http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Visual Studio Express - End of Life http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:52:06 GMT Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:52:06 GMT Rev9 16 -16 -1 Coffeehouse - Visual Studio Express - End of Life Microsoft is killing the following editions of VS Express:    
  - Visual C#
  - Visual Basic  
  - Visual C++  

They will still be available but won't be updated beyond the current version 10. 

They will instead only be offering the following three products: 
  - Express for Windows Phone
  - Express for WIndows 8 (Metro only: supports C#, VB, C++, and Javascript)      
  - Express for Web    

At this point it isn't clear from Microsoft's blog post if you'll be able to produce "forms" or console applications in the "Windows 8" edition (but I suspect not).    

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, ManipUni wrote

Microsoft is killing the following editions of VS Express:    
  - Visual C#
  - Visual Basic  
  - Visual C++  

maybe there is money to be made coding and selling a visual studio clone.

 

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, SteveRichter wrote

*snip*

maybe there is money to be made coding and selling a visual studio clone.

 

Not really any money being made, but there's always SharpDevelop.

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, DeathByVisualStudio wrote

 Yeah because SL/WPF/Winforms and the desktop is dead. Everybody knows that. Perplexed

Not dead, but not being updated. The target audience for the express versions is students and hobbyists. Microsoft wants them using the latest stuff.

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"Software tools for you at No Charge! The Microsoft DreamSpark student program allows students to get access to the latest Microsoft developer and designer tools, such as Visual Studio® and Expression® Studio, at no charge. Take advantage of this program today and unlock your creative potential. Start exploring the power of software."

 

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As someone said, you won't even be able to create a simple Hello World console application anymore without paying first. That will have some serious impact on VS popularity by hobbyist developers and VS adoptance in general, but I guess MS doesn't think about stuff like that.

Maybe it won't make a big difference to MS, but does MS really have to screw the hobbyists for what may not even add up to much, if any, additional profit?

And before someone says you can still get the current versions, how long is that going to last? One year? Two years?

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