yay  : (

Please - spend 2 years saturating the market with 199 ms tablets

like you underwrote xbox - sell at loss - later at cost - later at profit

seems like you've come out wanting profit (ludicrous) 

COPY amazon 199 ...

you are not apple/ipad....  the device brings you money - stop being them

do this now

what do you guys think?

Also, throwing more marketing is a complete waste of money, it would not change the fact that this isn't close to the iPad. Heck, even androids is having a really hard time against the iPad.

I'd say that SurfaceRT is a burning platform, except that Microsoft is certainly in no danger, they can keep throwing money at it for a few years. But a little humility would certainly not hurt.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3094918/xbox-surface-7-inch-tablet-rumor

I stopped by at Microsoft store on the first day and immediately noticed that Asus Vivo RT (at Bestbuy) is more responsive than Surface RT. But even then, many WinRT apps suffered from bad UX design. I would touch on something in an app and couldn't tell if the App has started doing something or if the touch failed to register. After touching the same app couple of times, the first action would start anyway. The general laginess in almost every app was not good at all.

I want this thing to succeed. But the whole thing needs to be more performant on the ARM processors.

In the end, I kept thinking, why would I shell out 500 bucks for this. At the basic level though, the basic framework (live tiles, charms, etcetra) looks exciting and I like the flow, but things gotta improve .....

1 hour ago, wastingtime​withforums wrote

LOL. Looks like my posts are set on "auto-delete".

I wouldn't be laughing if after 7 years membership to a forum, people are resolving to censorship. Clearly you are not a child anymore. It is quite sad really.

18 minutes ago, vesuvius wrote

*snip*

I wouldn't be laughing if after 7 years membership to a forum, people are resolving to censorship. Clearly you are not a child anymore. It is quite sad really.

 

4 hours ago, Harlequin wrote

Watching Simpsons last night was funny. Homer won a Mapple MyPad, but the funny thing was half the commercials seemed to be Apple iPad commercials, and the other half were Microsoft Surface/WP8 commercials. Was like a tech battle....

Submit. Submit. Submit.

That was the funniest Simpsons I've seen in a long time.

9 minutes ago, DCMonkey wrote

I don't see what the worry is. Surface is selling like gangbusters at the MS store in Mall of America  

Funny, that source is the same source who has said every year, for 5 years, Apple TV is just around the corner.

So, yea, up to you if you want to trust the numbers.

BTW, one of the the reasons Apple is doing so well today is that 25 years ago they gave Macs to every elementry school in the country.  Suprise - when the kiddies grew up they bought Macs.  Whoda thunk it. 

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/silverlightnet/thread/d7beef7e-5a90-4548-93c5-b228f6f592f3/

7 minutes ago, swheaties wrote

MS, rather than put ads on the sides of buses why dont you give Surfaces to your dev community so they will write apps for them.

What are you talking about? Didn't you go to build? Didn't you get your Surface?

BTW, one of the the reasons Apple is doing so well today is that 25 years ago they gave Macs to every elementry school in the country.  Suprise - when the kiddies grew up they bought Macs.  Whoda thunk it.

So this is why 25 years ago (1987) Macs marketshare was trending up to the early 90s >10% and it's now in the mid single digits?

Those kids must not have had a lot of money to buy expensive machines...

what you suggest is illegal when your customers are OEM as well.

Exactly how?

I don't buy into the excuses that Surface is a gen 1 device and so consumers should cut it some slack. Doesn't it stand to reason that if you want a device to make a splash in the market, it needs to exceed what it already out there. That's what Apple did with the original iPhone. Not just another clunky smartphone... they came up with something substantially better.

I have a Surface and keep going back to the feeling that it's on par with my Android tablets. It does not exceed that which is already out there. It feels to me like simply another alternative. Where's the serious differentiation?

38 minutes ago, swheaties wrote

Sombody help him please

Paolo it's obvious. MAGIC.

The upstream supply chain of Microsoft's Surface RT has recently seen the tablet's orders reduced by half, and with other Windows RT-based tablet orders also seeing weak performance, sources from the upstream supply chain believe the new operating system may not perform as well as expected in the market.

Microsoft originally expected to ship four million Surface RT devices by the end of 2012, but has recently reduced the orders by half to only two million units.

Although Asustek Computer, Samsung Electronics and Dell have all launched Windows RT-based tablets, consumer demand for those devices is also weak.

The sources also pointed out that Surface RT is also unlikely to achieve great performance in the upcoming quarter which may force Microsoft to bring out its Intel-based Surface Pro tablet earlier in December.

The sources also noted that Microsoft may consider reducing its Surface Pro price to attract more consumers; however, such a decision may put the already awkward relationship between the software giant and notebook vendors in an even worse situation.

Yes, I pasted the entire article. It's interesting, though.

I'd love to see the Surface Pro arrive early and cheaper!

The RT may end up subsidized, Jamie, or somehow made cheaper... crossing fingers...

It will get sorted out... and you are right, Minh, the OEMs are terrified.

But that was what I wanted.  Everyone I know who purchased an iPad as some kind of productivity machine stopped bringing it in to work because the form fact doesn't lend itself well to that kind of work. 

Concentrate, spend more time on making Windows 8 more performant.

The UI is not 3-D aero style but flat drab 2-D style and the battery still gets less than iPad ? WTF ? Surface NEEDS TO BE more performant. Make more usable apps.

Quit spending resources and energy on trying to be a hardware guy.

The fact is still that for a gen 1 product it isn't bad. It is certainly better than many other tablets/laptops being released by other OEMs that actually have been doing this for many years.

But I agree it is also true that they do need to have a very good product in order to grow marketshare, and they will fix both the hardware/software issues that do exist in due time. MS is known for sticking it out and ultimately having a winning product. See Xbox for one good example.

Although I absolutely hate what they did with the Windows 8 desktop.