What in the world is wrong with this guy?

What an insensitive clod! I don't use media center, but I still don't think it's nice to treat users so poorly. If his blog post was a video, it would be of some tranny in pumps stomping on some poor nerds nuts.

-Josh

Well, that would make Windows 8 not a problem to sell in Germany.

1 hour ago, JoshRoss wrote

What an a-hole! I don't use media center, but I still don't think it's nice to treat users so poorly. If his blog post was a video, it would be of some tranny in pumps stomping on some poor nerds nuts.

-Josh

Who's the a-hole? Bernardo or Linda? And how did you distinguish between the two?

LOL! More "No Compromises" from Sinofsky. He is so lucky that OEMs will happily load up the next version of Windows without batting an eye. "Success" by default.

8 minutes ago, DeathByVisualStudio wrote

LOL! More "No Compromises" from Sinofsky. He is so lucky that OEMs will happily load up the next version of Windows without batting an eye. "Success" by default.

I'll take wins by forfeit all day.

No DVD playback in Win8 anymore? Oh well, I am thinking of upgrading my HW without Win8 anyway.

BTW, the price of upgrade is

Disk Drive = at least 5 bucks.

No Disk Drive = at least 2 bucks.

This is based on the recent Dolby Lisence.

We use MediaCenter 24/7. I am going to cry if I ever have to use a silly setup box.

MediaCenter R U L E S !

And I don't get the a-hole part,..

I kind of understand why Microsoft are doing this - in fact I even admire them for it but that being said I think "removing" DVD playback is going to bite them in the butt big time - particularly for people considering buying a Windows 7 upgrade.   

On the other hand I'm glad to see Microsoft is giving the media industry the finger. Essentially saying they're tired of being forced to licence ever more expensive technology just to keep up with what the media companies dictate as the latest standard.   

Hopefully this will force the "old model" of content consumption to die an even quicker death. 

I use media center 24/7 aswell and has done it since Windows XP and would be sad to see it gone …

I can only asume that MS is adding some kind of Media Center support to the next Xbox and thats why the don't put any effort into Windows MCE … the only thing i am afraid off is that they dont put any tv-tuners in the Xbox but make it some netfix/hulu/hype of the day streaming box only

I use MCE for recording and watching cable TV

@fabian: The XBox allready has IPTV and in the USA, once shows air, they are availible via IPTV. So you don't actually need tuners, recording, etc. etc.

Except that you and I don't live in the land of the free and the brave. We live in the old country. Where we don't have freely availible IPTV, it's mostly encrypted compressed with uncompatible technologies. Keeping up with these kinds of idiocities is something that is enormously time consuming and really not worth the effort. So I see why, but I would still miss it.

1 hour ago, ManipUni wrote

I kind of understand why Microsoft are doing this - in fact I even admire them for it but that being said I think "removing" DVD playback is going to bite them in the butt big time - particularly for people considering buying a Windows 7 upgrade.   

I'm not worried because people are serving Windows7Essential pack for codecs missing in Windows 7. I'm assuming some folks will do the same for Windows 8 too.

And I think I'll just have to install custom codec libraries anyway...

Btw, I think vendors will still sell Win8 + MediaCenter pack preloaded TV(?), so as long as the price being paid to Microsoft is roughly the same, this means nothing for customers.

While annoying, I never think twice about installing third party codecs and whatever to watch blu-rays, MKV's, and whatever. Why would I feel differently about doing so to watch DVD's? Sure, it's something you didn't have to do before, but eh.

@cheong: I would love a TV running Windows 8 with MediaCenter and with dual DVB-C tuner or IPTV.

The software in tv's nowadays is slow and lacking in functionality.

@Maddus Mattus:

While I love Media Center and use it every day, it only working for analog tv reception and analog reception quality being terrible here, I'm slowly but surely being drawn to eventually giving in and just ordering a digital tv package from my cable provider and using that to play and record stuff. It won't be as great an experience as media center, but what can you do.

@Bas: You can use it for IPTV, DVB-C/S/T and analog.

The reason it's not penetrating here in the old country, is because the cable companies want to push a 6 euro a month device per tv onto you.

To do that, they encrypt everything, make you buy cards, extra cards and additional receivers for your extra bedroom tv. They are not interested in providing the best service, they want to deliver you a crap product at a premium price.

What can you do? Excellent question,..

I dunno,. Maybe tweet about it?

What I do, is put an RSS feed into SABNZB and only watch Bob the Builder via my cable.

Recently my neighbourhood got fibre. So I wanted to get triple play via Lijbrandt. With DVBLINK for IPTV I could hook up the IPTV streams from Glashart media to my mediacenter. Friend of mine has this solution, he can add up to 6 tuners, great quality.

But alas for me, the area I live in does not have the Glashart streams. I have the encrypted compressed (2Mbit for a HD stream, vs 8Mbit by Glashart) IPTV from KPN. If I could pick up me house and put it down 250meters from it's current location, I would be in a Glashart region.

So, it's still analog tv for me. In 2012. Yes, I love MediaCenter THAT much!

1 hour ago, Maddus Mattus wrote

@Bas: You can use it for IPTV, DVB-C/S/T and analog.

I know it can technically do it, but as you say, cable providers over here won't let you, which essentially means that it only works for analog... over here.

I do have a fiber connection and could live with using the xbox for recording / watching TV ... under 1 not negotiable condition. The xbox has to be 100% silent ... no way i am going to have some box turned on 24/7 in my living room that makes some kind of buzzing sound. I invested a lot of money in a HFX case for my media center some years ago and it has no fans or moving parts.

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