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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So, Obama-Administration is about to close thousands of legal medicinal marijuana store because I guess they are no longer legal? Anyway, what your thought about it?</p><p>Where else can you get legal medicinal marijuana as a real patient? Should illegal black market marijuana have a price jump because of the rising demands? What other alternatives to medicinal marijuana for the real patients who needs it? And what are the cost&nbsp;of those alternatives, both money and drug side-effects?</p><p>Just trying to see what other options are out there. And if you want to gives your thought on the case itself, that's appreciated too.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The states that legalized marijuana can simply stop cracking down on the illegal sale of marijuana, making it de facto legal, even though it's de jure illegal under federal law. If the feds don't like it, they'll have to devote more resources from the DEA or US Marshals Service or the ATF to enforce the laws themselves. Let's see if the GOP-controlled House is willing to increase government spending in order to enforce the anti-drug pet initiative of their evangelical base.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c57e49a6499614ea58c0b9f7501634f8c">cbae</a>:</p><p>I do not know Obama-Administration is controlled by GOP, but, that's indeed interesting.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:36:34 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/a48562a77d4446cc9f4e9f7501641df6">1 minute&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/magicalclick">magicalclick</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c57e49a6499614ea58c0b9f7501634f8c">cbae</a>:</p><p>I do not know Obama-Administration is controlled by GOP, but, that's indeed interesting.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Congress controls the budget for the executive branch too.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:38:35 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - What&#39;s your thought about no more legal medicinal marijuana stores?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/e86af54303a54fcbadb89f750164ab22">a moment&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cbae">cbae</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>Congress controls the budget for the executive branch too.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>But, it is very interesting that Obama actually will approve it. I mean, approved it.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:39:57 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/e05362913e1d4bbc84ef9f7501650ad2">a moment&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/magicalclick">magicalclick</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>But, it is very interesting that Obama actually will approve it. I mean, approved it.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I don't know if Obama would, and whether or the states actually decide not to enforce substance control laws is questionable as well. I'm just saying that the states *could* do that if they wanted to.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:43:23 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/3a43958d2f2d406ab8be9f750165fc52">2 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cbae">cbae</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>I don't know if Obama would, and whether or the states actually decide not to enforce substance control laws is questionable as well. I'm just saying that the states *could* do that if they wanted to.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Now sure what you mean. You are saying a state can refuse the fed to enforce ban on medicinal drug store? Not sure how a state can stop fed, but, it certainly did not happen.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:48:39 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c87686efd4cff4072ac179f7501602f76">magicalclick</a>:</p><p>The KFC on the corner of my street near the Vons was converted into a pot store with a big pot leaf graphic poster over the graphic of the bucket of fried chicken in the front window.</p><p>I wish for it to revert to a KFC so I don't have to drive 5 minutes to get a bucket of chicken.</p><p>Thanks.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:53:31 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c5aad1b63e17c4575b6bc9f750168c4f1">ComeOnBeer</a>: Converting a KFC into a marijuana dispensary was kind of defeating the purpose anyway.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c5aad1b63e17c4575b6bc9f750168c4f1">ComeOnBeer</a>:</p><p>KFC is probably worse for your health. <img src='http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/content/images/emoticons/emotion-4.gif?v=c9' alt='Tongue Out' /></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:11:39 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/6894569b5b924eb092ec9f7501676e88">20 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/magicalclick">magicalclick</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>Now sure what you mean. You are saying a state can refuse the fed to enforce ban on medicinal drug store? Not sure how a state can stop fed, but, it certainly did not happen.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>The federal laws require that the local jurisdictions deem the sale of marijuana to be unlawful. The federal government depends on local law enforcement agencies to enforce the local laws. The local jurisdictions can choose not to enforce those laws. Local law enforcement has only so many resources, so they can choose to go after the &quot;real&quot; bad guys like murderers and rapists instead driving around looking for drug deals to bust. While I was talking primarily about &quot;black market&quot; sale of marijuana should all the dispensaries close down, I suppose the local governments can choose not to shutdown the dispensaries as well. Obviously, the dispensaries would take the risk that the feds would shut them down themselves, but the local law enforcement doesn't necessarily have to help do so.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:21:50 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c87686efd4cff4072ac179f7501602f76">magicalclick</a>:&nbsp; I say let the states refuse to enforce them. Then the Fed government will be forced to&nbsp;spread it's resources thin and may be just bankrupt itself.&nbsp; Let's just help to speed up the process anyway.</p><p>Here is a nice quote for you :&nbsp;</p><p>&quot;The government waged a war on drugs and drugs won&quot; - Peter Schiff</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:25:07 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c00ffb519c76a4bfa8dc89f75017172b6">Srikanth_t</a>:</p><p>I don't think states would revolt for something like this. After all, my mom supports Obama-Administration's ban on medicinal marijuana.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:35:05 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c66551a72142942e5b8ab9f7501708c50">cbae</a>: I see how local law enforcement could just turn the other way, but I cannot understand how you could keep a shop. How do you file your taxes? Pleading the Fifth?</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:45:44 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/ed4ff423efc04258bb969f7501771c4b">2 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/Blue%20Ink">Blue&nbsp;Ink</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#c66551a72142942e5b8ab9f7501708c50">cbae</a>: I see how local law enforcement could just turn the other way, but I cannot understand how you could keep a shop. How do you file your taxes? Pleading the Fifth?</p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>&quot;Herbal medicine&quot; or &quot;herbal homeopathy&quot;</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:49:29 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It's all pretty crazy... You can drink a fifth of bourbon, but can't smoke a joint... We've got our priorities backwards in this country. Any natural substance that when consumed&nbsp;stokes behavior that includes thinking about things, noodling about what's happening around you,&nbsp;as opposed to <em>not</em> thinking (drunk) is&nbsp;pretty weird.&nbsp;On topic,&nbsp;I'd say that Obama needs to sit down in his back yard, under a tree,&nbsp;hidden from view of passers-by,&nbsp;spark a joint and think about this decision...</p><p>C&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 01:05:28 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Looking at this miopically I can understand a lot of the points made here. But if you think of the political environment of today you have to understand that Obama has to compromise with the conservatives on some issues in order to keep the whole thing going. We've all witness how effortless it&nbsp;has been&nbsp;for one political party to basically shutdown the government all in the name of votes. Let's just hope this sacrifice doesn't go unnoticed.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 03:23:10 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#caea6fb20f52c467eb6e79f760011fb81">Charles</a>:</p><p>I think is it crazier because it is interfering with health-care, the medicine stores. To argue about drug abuse is one thing, people can attempt suicide on sleeping pills, get addicted on painkillers, suck on paste, etc., but, this is actually different when we are talking about already regulated drugs. It is almost as if regulation on guns is not enough and shutting down the gun stores (similar and hopefully won't happen because of the protection of Constitution).</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 05:21:31 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Watching Ken Burns' recent Prohibition documentary really shows the parallels with things today, both drugs and the minority that want a ban on&nbsp;same-sex marriage. I am a libertarian, so drugs should be legal. If people want to slowly kill themselves, let them. We already let them with tobacco and booze.</p><p>We tried banning the sale of alcohol and look what happened then. More people drank than when it was legal and organized crime became stronger. Put alcohol back to 18, and legalize drugs. The country will be a safer place.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:47:45 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm a liber<em>al,</em>&nbsp;not a libertarian, but I agree with spivonious on this one: legalise drugs, reduce day-to-day street crime, reduce profits to organised crime, reduce deaths due to contaminated drugs and fluctuating purity, take taxes on drug sales and use them to educate the masses to the dangers so they can make their own choices.</p><p>Herbie</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:28:05 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Herbie Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pot, be it medicinal or recreation is illegal under federal law, period... and has been for quite some time (except for a couple very specific areas), nothing on that front has changes.</p><p>What has changed... is another failure at basic project management from this administration (which has increasingly become a more and more obvious pattern that I should have noticed years ago).</p><p>A few years ago they made the decision to <a href="http://www.justice.gov/opa/documents/medical-marijuana.pdf">de-prioritize enforcement</a> of some of those laws with regards to medical users &amp; operations:&nbsp;</p><blockquote>As a general matter, pursuit of these priorities should not focus federal resources in your States on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana. For example, prosecution of individuals with cancer or other serious illnesses who use marijuana as part of a recommended treatment regimen consistent with applicable state law, or those caregivers in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state law who provide such individuals with marijuana, is unlikely to be an efficient use of limited federal resources.</blockquote><p>All that has happened here is they have decided to reverse the previous decision and return to the old norm.</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#caea6fb20f52c467eb6e79f760011fb81">Charles</a>: He did plenty of that (and more) in his youth.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:43:09 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Your leader had a chance to say something to congress, and this is what he said.</p><p><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vg0wCam2oDc&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vg0wCam2oDc&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object></p><p><br>Today governor Brown signed the 2nd half of the dream act forcing us to pay for the college tuition of immigrants we never met.</p><p><a href="http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2011/10/09/governor-brown-signs-second-half-california-dream-act/">http&#58;&#47;&#47;latino.foxnews.com&#47;latino&#47;politics&#47;2011&#47;10&#47;09&#47;governor-brown-signs-second-half-california-dream-act&#47;</a></p><p>Bill could have easily made marijuana legalization his issue and not acted to serve his own, personal, super selfish financial interests, but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.........................</p><p><br>What if we enacted a law that made people personally responsible for their ideas and statements before congress. Imagine how many billions we could recoupe on people filing extended unemployment claims and drawing on government services.</p><p>What type of responsible person would allow an &quot;infinite amount&quot; of workers into their country no matter how skilled or pay for the education of people who didn't even bother to become citizens or even residents?</p><p>Just the word infinite is irresponsible. The reason pot is banned federally is the same reason Bill Gates whined about more cheap labor from the emerging world. It's exploitation.</p><p>Wall Street should be occupied. I am only sad that I am no longer a college student to join against the corporate leaders of America like your buddy Bill.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:05:45 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/648886970c2c4907a4519f7800330502">1 hour&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/ComeOnBeer">ComeOnBeer</a> wrote</p><p>Your leader had a chance to say something to congress, and this is what he said.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br>Today governor Brown signed the 2nd half of the dream act forcing us to pay for the college tuition of immigrants we never met.</p><p><a href="http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2011/10/09/governor-brown-signs-second-half-california-dream-act/">http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2011/10/09/governor-brown-signs-second-half-california-dream-act/</a></p><p>Bill could have easily made marijuana legalization his issue and not acted to serve his own, personal, super selfish financial interests, but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.........................</p><p><br>What if we enacted a law that made people personally responsible for their ideas and statements before congress. Imagine how many billions we could recoupe on people filing extended unemployment claims and drawing on government services.</p><p>What type of responsible person would allow an &quot;infinite amount&quot; of workers into their country no matter how skilled or pay for the education of people who didn't even bother to become citizens or even residents?</p><p>Just the word infinite is irresponsible. The reason pot is banned federally is the same reason Bill Gates whined about more cheap labor from the emerging world. It's exploitation.</p><p>Wall Street should be occupied. I am only sad that I am no longer a college student to join against the corporate leaders of America like your buddy Bill.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>You know you want to say it... &quot;they took ur jerb!&quot;</p><p><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/USgpbaKmNu4&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/USgpbaKmNu4&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object></p><p>Grow up beer.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:46:03 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>No Dahat,</p><p>It's not that personal.</p><p>That's not what Occupy Wall Street is about either.</p><p>These people are not about giving opportunities to those in other countries. That is a pretense.</p><p>They are all about exploitation. As soon as you cost too much, or talk too much or become inconvenient in anyway, no matter how much of a good deal workers from X, Y, Z country once were, you're toast. And they'll move on to the next tier of world desperation.</p><p>People like Bill and many others want instant cheap labor gratification, and they don't care where they get it. It's like&nbsp; ........ a drug to them.</p><p>I can pay very little and sell for very much! Hooray, who cares how it happens. That was the spirit of Bill Gates's speech to congress, and the spirit of the positive replies from the Republican Congressman he was talking to.</p><p>Those are not the principles America was founded on. Sure there were some illegal trade routes to get tea from China which bypassed the tax imposed by the East India Company, but generally, the Walmart-ization of labor forces to drive margins was not what made people want to come here or stay here.</p><p>Corporate leaders are slowly turning America into a sewer, and no fence high enough will keep their children out of it.</p><p>We need these people to be systematically removed from society, and replaced with socially responsible individuals. Until that happens, we can't see any positive movement either in our economy or in the social problems with drug abuse.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 05:00:53 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>No... actually... it's exactly the same thing.</p><p>It's a group of entitled little whiney children who feel they have been jilted by society and not given their just rewards for simply existing and/or just showing up with their hand out... as a result through a hissy fit by seeking to hijacking the lives &amp; property of other people and seek to change things through some of the least effective means imaginable.</p><p>The occupy wall street kids hijack a park and annoy locals with blocked traffic, drum circles and a foul smell of rotting trashing and un-showered hippies... while you hijack thread after thread here, annoy the locals with your incessant whining, ranting, and a foul smell of failure.</p><p>Behold, <a href="http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/post/11126682082">your intellectual and moral sibling</a>... who also made a few bad choices in the world and now blames everybody but themselves for it:</p><p><a href="http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsocdnHQEf1r25y9yo1_500.jpg " rel="lightbox"><img src="http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsocdnHQEf1r25y9yo1_500.jpg " alt=""></a></p><p>Again... grow up.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:18:47 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>dahat</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This has to be the most focus-group oriented lip-service paying presidency and administration ever. So no, not surprised. Have never smoked anything either though. Have had many a beer, which of course has a very high toxicity, also compared to weed. So yes, priorities backwards and pointless meddling in the private lives of citizens.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:01:17 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/ca9257761a2c495db5549f78004e920e">15 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/dahat">dahat</a> wrote</p><p>You know you want to say it... &quot;they took ur jerb!&quot;</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I don't know how beer interpreted it, but, I am pretty sure the infinite amount is targeted to engineer level kind of individuals. As Bill clearly pointed out we will have more jobs for the citizens to work around those engineers. Also Bill said infinite is not realistic also.</p><p>IMO, I just need to make sure I work around them instead of compete with them. Then, my job is not in danger. <img src='http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/content/images/emoticons/emotion-5.gif?v=c9' alt='Wink' /></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:44:21 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Obama's supporters generally support medical marijuana as well. This is a great way to kill off the last of his support. What a bonehead.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/1e698f57252c4d488e639f780163ff9d">15 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/Frank%20Hileman">Frank&nbsp;Hileman</a> wrote</p><p>Obama's supporters generally support medical marijuana as well. This is a great way to kill off the last of his support. What a bonehead.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I'm not really picking on you, you just had the last of a bunch of similar statements on the issue, so don't take this personally.</p><p>For the 8 years prior to Obama, Bush simply 'reinterpreted' the various laws passed using signing statements.&nbsp; This process is legally dubious, and about as cynical as anything I can think of.&nbsp; Clinton did it before him, but to a much lesser extent.&nbsp; I'm not sure who came up with the actual concept, but the end result is that laws are altered by the exectutive (which isn't legal) and the great unwashed masses blame the executive for 'not passing a law'.</p><p>Obama is actually being quite smart about it.&nbsp;&nbsp;If he made&nbsp;it seem legal through lack of enforcement, then as soon as a more conservative president comes through, it's back to enforcement again, and a bunch of young businesses go out of business.</p><p>If, instead, he lets congress do their job and make it legal, then it actually has a chance to stand up in court.&nbsp; Same goes for any other 'law' that civic ignorants seem to think that Obama has complete control of.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/a5d5258eedbb4fb2b1349f7900dc16f0">1 hour&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/ScanIAm">ScanIAm</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>I'm not really picking on you, you just had the last of a bunch of similar statements on the issue, so don't take this personally.</p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Then you should address your comments specifically... rather than go through the nonsensical rambling you do. I'm sorry... but what you said above is quite nonsensical.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">For the 8 years prior to Obama, Bush simply 'reinterpreted' the various laws passed using signing statements.&nbsp; This process is legally dubious, and about as cynical as anything I can think of.&nbsp; Clinton did it before him, but to a much lesser extent.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>Blame Bush. Bush is bad. Bush didn't start it but he made it worse. Yada yada.</p><p>I enjoy how you leave out the fact that this administration is attempting to do something on such a scale that no previous administration has... use it's regulatory authority (sometimes invented (see health care law wavers)) to enforce policy that was explicitly rejected by the law makers.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">I'm not sure who came up with the actual concept, but the end result is that laws are altered by the exectutive (which isn't legal) and the great unwashed masses blame the executive for 'not passing a law'.</div></blockquote><p></p><ol><li>You could do some reading about the subject. </li><li>The signing statement doesn't change the law... it changes how it will be enforced... more on that in a minute though. </li></ol><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">Obama is actually being quite smart about it.&nbsp; If he made it seem legal through lack of enforcement, then as soon as a more conservative president comes through, it's back to enforcement again, and a bunch of young businesses go out of business.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>*face palm*</p><p>How exactly is he being smart about it... when he's not doing what you said he'd be smart to do? Instead he's getting the blame for himself nice and early... in a time when his poll numbers are increasingly looking bleak and he needs more than a little support from every corner.</p><p>Perhaps it's time for another uplifting and rhetorical speech as to why this policy reversal is a good thing?</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">If, instead, he lets congress do their job and make it legal, then it actually has a chance to stand up in court.&nbsp; Same goes for any other 'law' that civic ignorants seem to think that Obama has complete control of.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>*double face palm*</p><p>I know you are desperate to try to defend him, lord knows he needs defending... but you aren't doing it very well.</p><p>It looks like it's time for a brief civics lesson: The President is head of the Executive Branch which is charged with the enforcing of the law. While the Rule of Law means that there is a consistent law that is applied to all equally... we don't exactly live under a fully applied system as your local cop has the discretion to give you a warning for speeding, rather than issue a ticket, or a prosecutor the ability to offer a plea deal to a lesser crime so as to ensure a conviction.</p><p>Similarly, our government (at all levels) has limited resources, so will necessarily prioritize crimes in terms of which they will apply more resources to the investigation and prosecution of (or other times because they think the law is unjust and decide to simply ignore it rather than seek it's repeal).</p><p>It's not the previous limited enforcement of the law that has people outraged (<strong>something I might add given your statements above would deem as very illegal as it is the equivalent of a signing statement coming from the DoJ</strong>)... but the reversal of their original decision.</p><p>At the end of the day... signing statements (assuming we ignore the explicitly political ones which tend to boil down to &quot;I disagree with this law, but will enforce it&quot;) are little more than directives to the executive branch as to how it will be enforced... also known as an executive order... both of which are trivially changed at any time by a current or future executive.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#cec6c28e61c39407f832e9f79010a61db">dahat</a>: This might be a reach, but I'll go out on a limb and say that I have this slight inkling of a hunch that you don't care for Obama's being our President.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/ec6c28e61c39407f832e9f79010a61db">33 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/dahat">dahat</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>Then you should address your comments specifically... rather than go through the nonsensical rambling you do. I'm sorry... but what you said above is quite nonsensical.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Why are you sorry.&nbsp; I may not have been clear enough, but that's no reason to get emotional about it.&nbsp; I'm a big boy, I'm wearing my big-boy britches.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>*snip*</p><p>Blame Bush. Bush is bad. Bush didn't start it but he made it worse. Yada yada.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Did you fail to notice that I also included clinton in the list of folks who did this?&nbsp; Why yes, yes you did.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>I enjoy how you leave out the fact that this administration is attempting to do something on such a scale that no previous administration has... use it's regulatory authority (sometimes invented (see health care law wavers)) to enforce policy that was explicitly rejected by the law makers.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Is it legal?&nbsp; You do understand how the legal system works, right?</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>*snip*</p><ol><li>You could do some reading about the subject. </li><li>The signing statement doesn't change the law... it changes how it will be enforced... more on that in a minute though. </li></ol><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>&quot;We aren't going to enforce this law&quot; effects the same result as not passing the law.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>*snip*</p><p>*face palm*</p><p>How exactly is he being smart about it... when he's not doing what you said he'd be smart to do? Instead he's getting the blame for himself nice and early... in a time when his poll numbers are increasingly looking bleak and he needs more than a little support from every corner.</p><p>Perhaps it's time for another uplifting and rhetorical speech as to why this policy reversal is a good thing?</p><p>*snip*</p><p>*double face palm*</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I think I was pretty clear about why I think it was smart.&nbsp; He said as much when dealing with DADT.&nbsp; The goal isn't to kick the can down the road, the goal is to get it into law, then the courts so it can be challenged and fixed if neccessary.</p><p>Perhaps if you'd quit smacking yourself in the face with your palm, you'd give yourself a chance to comprehend stuff.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>I know you are desperate to try to defend him, lord knows he needs defending... but you aren't doing it very well.</p><p>It looks like it's time for a brief civics lesson: The President is head of the Executive Branch which is charged with the enforcing of the law. While the Rule of Law means that there is a consistent law that is applied to all equally... we don't exactly live under a fully applied system as your local cop has the discretion to give you a warning for speeding, rather than issue a ticket, or a prosecutor the ability to offer a plea deal to a lesser crime so as to ensure a conviction.</p><p>Similarly, our government (at all levels) has limited resources, so will necessarily prioritize crimes in terms of which they will apply more resources to the investigation and prosecution of (or other times because they think the law is unjust and decide to simply ignore it rather than seek it's repeal).</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I'm sorry, are you giving me a civics lesson or discussing finance and prioritization.&nbsp; Either way, thanks, but I've got a pretty decent grasp of both.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>It's not the previous limited enforcement of the law that has people outraged (<strong>something I might add given your statements above would deem as very illegal as it is the equivalent of a signing statement coming from the DoJ</strong>)... but the reversal of their original decision.</p><p>At the end of the day... signing statements (assuming we ignore the explicitly political ones which tend to boil down to &quot;I disagree with this law, but will enforce it&quot;) are little more than directives to the executive branch as to how it will be enforced... also known as an executive order... both of which are trivially changed at any time by a current or future executive.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>And, as I pointed out through the rapid flapping of your palm to your noggin, that's not how you govern well.&nbsp; Establishing precident in the courts would make for a much clearer answer to the question &quot;can I sell weed in california&quot;.&nbsp; So Obama directs the DOJ to go back to enforcing it (Like he directed them to challenge DADT) and lets the courts&nbsp;determine the correct answer.&nbsp; That way, the next time a dem isn't running the show,&nbsp;the&nbsp;change in how the executive enforces the rules won't cause a shakeup in the industry.&nbsp;</p><p>I know you and I don't agree, often, if ever, but try and remember that I&quot;m not a complete f*cking idiot.</p><p>Thanks</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/63248ea016964f0fa7489f7901196915">29 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/ScanIAm">ScanIAm</a> wrote</p><p>Why are you sorry.&nbsp; I may not have been clear enough, but that's no reason to get emotional about it.&nbsp; I'm a big boy, I'm wearing my big-boy britches.</p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>And yet resorting to childish insults to try to make your point. Bravo!</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">Did you fail to notice that I also included clinton in the list of folks who did this?&nbsp; Why yes, yes you did.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>Did you fail to notice my use of the phrase &quot;Bush didn't start it but he made it worse&quot;? Why yes, yes you did.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">Is it legal?&nbsp; You do understand how the legal system works, right?</div></blockquote><p></p><p>As I demonstrate time and time again in a rational and level headed way... yes, I do.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">&quot;We aren't going to enforce this law&quot; effects the same result as not passing the law.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>Only for the time of that a given administration decides to not enforce the law as written... as seen in this case... they changed their mind.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">I think I was pretty clear about why I think it was smart.&nbsp; He said as much when dealing with DADT.&nbsp; The goal isn't to kick the can down the road, the goal is to get it into law, then the courts so&nbsp;it can be challenged and fixed if neccessary.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>Talk about some doublespeak!</p><p>No, if he was smart he would have challenged the law immediately, not allow the creation of a dependency (the users) and aboveground economy (the jobs) through the explicit and intentional enforcement of the law... only to risk all of it after the fact.</p><p>He himself has now caused what you are/were afraid a Republican would do. Why not just cut out the middle stuff?</p><p><strong>Hell... an even smarter (and more politically savvy) would have been to allow the grey market to grow flourish (and likely become more politically powerful) so that when a future administration tried to re-enforce the laws, there would be an even larger push back against such a move.</strong></p><p>You know... what successive administrations have done with regards to illegal immigration?</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">Perhaps if you'd quit smacking yourself in the face with your palm, you'd give yourself a chance to comprehend stuff.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>You'll note my tag line off to the side there... &quot;inanity makes my head hurt&quot;. It has nothing to do with *face palms*.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">I'm sorry, are you giving me a civics lesson or discussing finance and prioritization.&nbsp; Either way, thanks, but I've got a pretty decent grasp of both.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>Again, your words say otherwise.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">Establishing precident in the courts would make for a much clearer answer to the question &quot;can I sell weed in california&quot;. So Obama directs the DOJ to go back to enforcing it</div></blockquote><p></p><p>#BasicLogicFAIL!</p><p>Again... the precident was already there... then he changed it... <strong>then he changed it again</strong>.</p><p>Maybe some campaign bundling could make them safer... or even get them a nice DoE loan. I mean, they are green jobs, aren't they?</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">(Like he directed them to challenge DADT)</div></blockquote><p></p><p>Wait! When exactly did Obama direct the DOJ to <strong>challenge</strong> DADT (ie in court)? He's ordered them not to defend DOMA... but I can find no information as to the DOJ challenging DADT... hell, <a href="http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/23/DOJ_Counters_Log_Cabin_to_Keep_DADT/">I can actually find the opposite</a>.</p><p>I would suggest supporting your claim before you dig yourself into any other factual holes.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">and lets the courts&nbsp;determine the correct answer.&nbsp; That way, the next time a dem isn't running the show,&nbsp;the&nbsp;change in how the executive enforces the rules won't cause a shakeup in the industry.&nbsp;</div></blockquote><p></p><p>You mean like the President just did!??!?!</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">I know you and I don't agree, often, if ever, but try and remember that I&quot;m not a complete f*cking idiot.</div></blockquote><p></p><p>Your words sure seem to say otherwise.</p><p>I know you want the President to do well. I know you believe in him and want him to succeed in everything he does... and when he doesn't, defend it to your last breath.</p><p><strong>The sooner you recognize that he is a horrible project/program manager, the better off you and the rest of us will be.</strong></p><p><strong>Like many PMs, he paints a grand and rosy vision of the future... only when defining the intermediate steps to getting there he just can't adequately understand the external dependencies which usually leads to poorly managed expectations along the way as the schedule slips. When things go wrong, he's unable to accept responsibility nor alter his spec when a feature needs to be cut to help get the product out the door. Because of this rigidness he ends up with a poor ability to build a non-obvious network of support or alignment with sympathetic stakeholders.</strong></p><p>It is unfortunate that he got promoted too fast from his last job (evangelist). Sure, he might not have grown much more in that old role, but it was a far better fit for his skills than where he is today.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#cf15bab7747634d21907b9f7901341ee6">dahat</a>: Obama rigid? Are you out of your freaking wingnut mind? He's been bending over backward to appease the Party of No. The progressives have been criticizing him for being far too accommodating to a party that would rather see the country go down the sh1tter than for him to get re-elected.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/06142f7ba2cc42ebaa809f790136d1f2">47 seconds&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cbae">cbae</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#cf15bab7747634d21907b9f7901341ee6">dahat</a>: Obama rigid? Are you out of your freaking wingnut mind? He's been bending over backward to appease the Party of No. The progressives have been criticizing him for being far too accommodating to a party that would rather see the country go down the sh1tter than for him to get re-elected.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Would you like an answer? Or would you like to continue name-calling?&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/4c6edd52f0374c2fa5999f7901376f9d">1 minute&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/dahat">dahat</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>Would you like an answer? Or would you like to continue name-calling?&nbsp;</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I generally don't like to hear answers from people that use their own version of reality, so the answer to the first question is &quot;no&quot;. As for the second question, when did you develop such a thin skin? I don't see you running to the defense of ComeOnBeer when he's called a &quot;moron&quot; after one of his classic diatribes.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/e876252c40fe457287899f790138e3db">2 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cbae">cbae</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>I generally don't like to hear answers from people that use their own version of reality, so the answer to the first question is &quot;no&quot;. As for the second question, when did you develop such a thin skin? I don't see you running to the defense of ComeOnBeer when he's called a &quot;moron&quot; after one of his classic diatribes.</p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>So you are going to stick to your talking points and name calling? Very well. Thanks for saving me a bit of typing.</p><p>No more of a response from me is required when you are going to play such games.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/9fa16c25a85a47da9aef9f79013afa28">22 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/dahat">dahat</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>So you are going to stick to your talking points and name calling? Very well. Thanks for saving me a bit of typing.</p><p>*snip*</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>No, problemo. For the record, my motives weren't entirely altruistic. Egoism and all that, you know?</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:35:07 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/06142f7ba2cc42ebaa809f790136d1f2">44 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cbae">cbae</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores#cf15bab7747634d21907b9f7901341ee6">dahat</a>: Obama rigid? Are you out of your freaking wingnut mind? He's been bending over backward to appease the Party of No. The progressives have been criticizing him for being far too accommodating to a party that would rather see the country go down the sh1tter than for him to get re-elected.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I see. Thus, I guess Obama bended more than Bush did, because Bush didn't closed down &quot;medicinal&quot; drug stores. He is certainly super &quot;flexible&quot;.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:25 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Whats-your-thought-about-no-more-legal-medicinal-marijuana-stores/f15bab7747634d21907b9f7901341ee6">36 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/dahat">dahat</a> wrote</p><p>And yet resorting to childish insults to try to make your point. Bravo!</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Exactly what did you find insulting?&nbsp; You apoligized to me&nbsp;before insulting everything I wrote as 'nonsense'.&nbsp; I told you it didn't bother me and not to worry about it.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>Did you fail to notice my use of the phrase &quot;Bush didn't start it but he made it worse&quot;? Why yes, yes you did.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>What you <strong>did</strong> was mock what I said as if I were blaming bush.&nbsp; I was quite careful to avoid any form of blaming bush because, as I'll point out for the 4th f*cking time, Clinton did it before bush did.&nbsp; Both of them were wrong.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>As I demonstrate time and time again in a rational and level headed way... yes, I do.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>You have done nothing of the sort.&nbsp; You have, in fact, done the exact opposite through out this thread.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>Only for the time of that a given administration decides to not enforce the law as written... as seen in this case... they changed their mind.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>And, I think it has the potential to be for the better.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>Talk about some doublespeak!</p><p>No, if he was smart he would have challenged the law immediately, not allow the creation of a dependency (the users) and aboveground economy (the jobs) through the explicit and intentional enforcement of the law... only to risk all of it after the fact.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>The dependency and abovegroud economy existed long before he took office.&nbsp; It might have made a good movie moment for him to walk in and declare &quot;weed is good, long live weed&quot;, but someone has already brought up his use of it in the past, so it would have been politically difficult.&nbsp; Further, 2-3 years ago, he was busy dealing with more important things than encouraging the weed economy.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>He himself has now caused what you are/were afraid a Republican would do. Why not just cut out the middle stuff?</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I am not, nor have I ever been 'afraid' of what a republican would do.&nbsp; I never said it, I never typed it, and gosh-darn it, if you'd calm the hell down, you might recognize that.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><strong>Hell... an even smarter (and more politically savvy) would have been to allow the grey market to grow flourish (and likely become more politically powerful) so that when a future administration tried to re-enforce the laws, there would be an even larger push back against such a move.</strong></p><p>You know... what successive administrations have done with regards to illegal immigration?</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>That is certainly an option.&nbsp; I, personally, don't think that leaving the issue in a state of limbo is better than forcing it through the courts.&nbsp; But see I'm progressive.&nbsp; I like to see progress.&nbsp; You're conservative.&nbsp; You prefer to defer.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>You'll note my tag line off to the side there... &quot;inanity makes my head hurt&quot;. It has nothing to do with *face palms*.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Maybe, but to be honest, saying *face palm* is the kind of thing reserved for basement dwelling d*cks.&nbsp; I'd like to&nbsp;assume you weren't one of them.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>#BasicLogicFAIL!</p><p>Again... the precident was already there... then he changed it... <strong>then he changed it again</strong>.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>And I believe it will result in a legal case that will eventually make it to the supreme court.&nbsp; I know that in some circles, the idea of changing your mind is viewed as weakness, however I'm not a member of that mindset.&nbsp; That you believe otherwise again belies your conservative nature more than it does some form of actual strategy.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>Maybe some campaign bundling could make them safer... or even get them a nice DoE loan. I mean, they are green jobs, aren't they?</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Man, oh man.&nbsp; You are a funny guy.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>Wait! When exactly did Obama direct the DOJ to <strong>challenge</strong> DADT (ie in court)? He's ordered them not to defend DOMA... but I can find no information as to the DOJ challenging DADT... hell, <a href="http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/23/DOJ_Counters_Log_Cabin_to_Keep_DADT/">I can actually find the opposite</a>.</p><p>I would suggest supporting your claim before you dig yourself into any other factual holes.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I don't have facts to back that up because&nbsp;I was worded it terribly and implied something that wasn't true.&nbsp; What he did was <strong>not use an executive order even though he could have</strong>&nbsp;but instead push to have the matter settled by congress.&nbsp; It is a similar attitude about changing the law that I am trying to draw a parallel to.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>You mean like the President just did!??!?!</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>exactly.&nbsp; You seem to be getting it.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>**projection snipped**</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>You know nothing about me and what I do or don't want.&nbsp; You seem to be far more caught up in how much you think I worship Obama than I&nbsp;am in actually liking the guy.&nbsp;</p><p>All I said, originally, was that I thought it was a good idea and I gave my reasons.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText">&nbsp;<p></p><p>Wait! When exactly did Obama direct the DOJ to <strong>challenge</strong> DADT (ie in court)? He's ordered them not to defend DOMA... but I can find no information as to the DOJ challenging DADT... hell, <a href="http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/23/DOJ_Counters_Log_Cabin_to_Keep_DADT/">I can actually find the opposite</a>.</p><p>I would suggest supporting your claim before you dig yourself into any other factual holes.</p><p>&nbsp;</p></div></blockquote><p></p></div></blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yeah, upon further investigation, I'll go ahead and dig that hole exactly like what I said originally.&nbsp; This is much more similar to what happened with DADT.&nbsp; The Obama DOJ continued to enforce DADT until the law could actually be changed in congress.</p><p>Exactly what I think is going on here with medical mary jane.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</</p>]]></description>
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