-Josh

You used to have to buy the PDC sessions on expensive DVDs for hundreds of dollars. Even after Channel 9 had been up for years.

The reason you can now access them for free is because Google made their sessions for Google I/O free and live streamed them. Before the days of Google there were no Express Editions of the dev tools either.

I won't be going to another Build, but I will be going to a lot of other dev conferences this coming year in the area and norcal.

3 hours ago, hchwa wrote

Opps.. I think I pressed Submit button too many times.  Sorry.

Ya think? LOL

3 hours ago, jb999 wrote

important question! I should plan my budget, too. Additional it's important to get the date because of planning flight and hotel! Hope that MS answered this question soon...

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-phone-8/windows-phone-8-unveiled-143477

I will be holding BUILD 2012 in my living room, on my Birthday (October 4th).  There will be a big surprise and I can promise at least one big name guest (not my cat)

All welcome  (Please bring your own food)

Thanks.

BTW My wife has asked if you would all mind bringing a pair of slippers with you as we have had new carpet in the front room this year. 

will it be 2000 bucks like last year?

Herbie

@MasterPie:There is a barn out back, hay will be provided (and yes, if you happen to be sitting on some when the conference finishes you are free to take it home with you)

That said, no, there won't be a Build conference this year

(But Sinofsky does things differently and has great influence so we will have to wait and see).

Where are all the sessions about WP8 development ??? come with the SDK ? this summer ?

And what can they talk about? We know the Windows 8 Developer Story, The Windows Phone 8 Developer story is almost the same.

https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/Europe/2012/WPH201

http://stacked.thestack.co.uk/

http://remixsouth2012.eventbrite.com/

http://vslive.com/Events/Redmond-2012/Home.aspx

Well, I found some statements about WindowsRuntime on Windows Phone 8 here

http://devconnections.com/shows/fall2012/sessions.aspx?s=190

VRT417: Building Shared Metro Apps for Microsoft Surface and Windows Phone
Nick Landry
Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 now share a common core. WinRT is the common denominator.

while on the other hand, he says:

The differences are also more than skin deep. Windows Phone 8 supports all Windows Phone 7.5 applications, which were based on Silverlight 4 and XNA. Windows 8 Metro is all WinRT but has a .NET profile for Metro apps.

what the hell ?

Jul 03, 2012 at 4:53 AM, felix9 wrote

what the hell ?

Windows 8 runs Win32, .NET, Silverlight, DOS and various other flavours of app as well as WinRT apps, some of which can be based on a subset of .NET. Whether you choose to write for WinRT or Win32/.NET desktop apps is dependent significantly upon what your application does and where it lives best (as a Metro app or on the desktop). WinRT here is the beginnings of the next-gen Windows APIs, it'll be some time before it can comfortably replace everything.

Windows Phone 8 runs all the old Windows Phone 7 apps, be they XNA or Silverlight, but it also has a WinRT API which can use a subset of .NET (just as Windows 8 does). WinRT is absolutely the future of Windows Phones applications and is what you should target if you're looking to Windows Phone 8 and beyond. In this case Silverlight/XNA should definitely be considered legacy APIs and probably not worth targetting for new applications.

11 minutes ago, AndyC wrote

*snip*

WinRT is absolutely the future of Windows Phones applications and is what you should target if you're looking to Windows Phone 8 and beyond. In this case Silverlight/XNA should definitely be considered legacy APIs and probably not worth targetting for new applications.

You can target whatever you want. Just put all of your business logic and view modesl into portable class libraries.

http://blogs.interknowlogy.com/2012/07/09/make-portable-libraries-your-go-to-project-template/

BTW, I don't know if this is true or not.

Regardless, Seattle/Redmond I want to visit as often as possible. The coniferous forest there makes me feel like I'm on an alien planet. I could wander around out there for days this time of year, camera might overheat. Gorgeous forests > any event, imho.

Will be going for this Build conference in Redmond!

21 minutes ago, hchwa wrote

Based on the past pricing, should be around $1200 to $1500 range....

Eek. Never been to a tech conference before, but does that price include anything beyond the conference itself?

Fee pays for the conference, they have free meals(breakfast/lunch), always a good party somewhere the 2nd or 3rd night, if there are vendors they always have swag you can grab.

Nothing yet has beat PDC 2005 when they rented Universal Studios =)

Edit: And they usually give something good away. I'll bet $100 everyone gets a Surface tablet. I doubt a Windows Phone 8, as I doubt any vendors will have any built in time.

More later.
C