, Maddus Mattus wrote

@JohnAskew: Not just you and me, all their customers. Right now, we are cattle, powerless, voiceless. We are basically taken out of the equation, because they have the law on their side.

And you know, the funny thing is, the only solution that works is a free market. Check the history books. We will get there eventually, you cannot plan people, they will do whatever they think is right, if there is a law or not, everyone has their own moral compass.

Let me correct you: I get to vote, so I'm not cattle or powerless or voiceless, I am in the equation, I have the law on my side (and jurors if necessary, imho).

Now let me tell you that your panacea of "free market" is only viable when building nations and infrastructure. Once wealth is accumulated, naturally is becomes concentrated in few hands (this is human nature at work which no one can change), then the "free market" is no longer free.

Anti-Trust law is supposed to be how the "free market" shakes off the special interest of a tycoon mogul billionaire type. Unfortunately the "free market" proponents fail to prohibit laws designed for profit and instead take the mogul's contributions. The Justice Department doesn't attempt to enforce the laws on the books addressing Anti-Trust entities, I would imagine for the same reason: profit. Somehow they are drawn into the billionaires' strategy though the US government Justice Department is supposedly constructed to prevent this type of influence.

So at the end of the day, we deal with OLIGARCHIES. Maddus, that is not a "free market". I know that neither Maddus nor anyone else can take our current economy and restore is as a "free market". If you could, you would have already started.

I challange proponents of "free market" to lay out the map to take us there. I say it is not feasible. The rich would not let you finish your ideas anyway because it's not in their interest. This leaves working with the current system as the only option. Pining for "free market" is a red herring.