Channel 9 Forums - Tech Off - Storing text for online article database... http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Tech Off - Storing text for online article database... http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Thu, 23 May 2013 12:46:14 GMT Thu, 23 May 2013 12:46:14 GMT Rev9 11 -11 -1 Tech Off - Storing text for online article database... Hey Niners,

I'm working on an article database right now, and have introduced a bit of frustration into my day when I decided to offer the web-article as on-the-fly PDF's too.

The article were all stored in the database as HTML. It's ugly, trust me. So I'm deciding what I want to do with them. The HTML is all wrong also, so I do have to go through and do some clean up regardless.

But I recall being told in the past that articles should never contain ANY markup or css, but if that is the case, how would you write 238Pa without using the SUP tag?

Just curious how you guys would design an article database beyond simply making a field for the title, author and text Smiley

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Something like this:

Public Function FormatStr(ByVal MessageString As String) As String
        MessageString = Replace(MessageString, Chr(13), "")
        MessageString = Replace(MessageString, Chr(10) & Chr(10), "</p><p>")
        MessageString = Replace(MessageString, Chr(10), "<br />")
        FormatStr = MessageString
    End Function

FormatStr(Container.DataItem("message"))

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jsampsonPC wrote:
Hey Niners,

I'm working on an article database right now, and have introduced a bit of frustration into my day when I decided to offer the web-article as on-the-fly PDF's too.

The article were all stored in the database as HTML. It's ugly, trust me. So I'm deciding what I want to do with them. The HTML is all wrong also, so I do have to go through and do some clean up regardless.

But I recall being told in the past that articles should never contain ANY markup or css, but if that is the case, how would you write 238Pa without using the SUP tag?

Just curious how you guys would design an article database beyond simply making a field for the title, author and text Smiley


Markdown.

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...or maybe it's not wrong at all to do basic HTML in the data-field, such as P, STRONG, U, EM, BLOCKQUOTE, etc... any input guys?

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W3bbo wrote:

Markdown.


Oh looky-there...this is neat.

Thanks W3bbo.

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would that do the trick?

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jh71283 wrote:
 What about compressing the html that you're storing?

would that do the trick?


How would that solve his problem?

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ZippyV wrote:

jh71283 wrote:
 What about compressing the html that you're storing?

would that do the trick?


How would that solve his problem?


I'm not looking for compression so much as covenience. I want to get away from mixed-data, and stick with some a bit more pleasing to the eyes and expandable.

Markdown is extremely great, and seems to solve all of my problems while keeping the text completely readable.

Markdown + Clean CSS, that is.

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jsampsonPC wrote:
But I recall being told in the past that articles should never contain ANY markup or css, but if that is the case, how would you write 238Pa without using the SUP tag?

Just curious how you guys would design an article database beyond simply making a field for the title, author and text Smiley


As W3bbo said, Markdown may do the job for you. Another approach that people take is to invent their own abstract markup with XML and associate XSLTs for web view, print view, edit etc. This can get quite involved. The approach may be better if you have long term requirements with reuse and find that this approach is easier.

-Brian

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jsampsonPC wrote:

ZippyV wrote:

jh71283 wrote:
 What about compressing the html that you're storing?

would that do the trick?


How would that solve his problem?


I'm not looking for compression so much as covenience. I want to get away from mixed-data, and stick with some a bit more pleasing to the eyes and expandable.

Markdown is extremely great, and seems to solve all of my problems while keeping the text completely readable.

Markdown + Clean CSS, that is.


just read a bit about it and it sounds GREAT!

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figuerres wrote:
Just read a bit about it and it sounds GREAT!


It is, completely. I used the PHP version, and it's nothing morethan calling the Markdown($source) function. It's so easy to use too. I am actually hiring my wife (who knows next to nothing about HTML/CSS) to come in and reformat the article database for me while I continue coding.

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