Earlier, you asked MS to produce a shell language which would do stuff. You asked them (for some reason) to use the Unix stuff, and then admitted that that would be limiting, and then you made up your own on the spot.

Any shell language MS would produce would, by definition, only work on MS systems. It would take up room in your brain. There would be books about it. I doubt there would be any certification for it, but that's a whole other thing.

None of that makes me feel like a tool, nor is it a hassle. Why? Because I go through the same thing on our VMS systems, our Netware systems and our Linux systems. They each have their own way of doing things which is unique to THAT system, takes up room in my brain, has books and needs learning.

I don't enjoy the hassle, but unless you are proposing a unified shell environment / language for all OS's, I'm not sure what you're driving at.

Sure, MS could benefit from it, but you get the same benefit if you just use 'type' and then run your little script using KiX. Sure, it's an extra step, but it's an extra step most NT admins don't mind, becuase it's not like we're at the prompt all that often anyways.

Sure, I can see the benefit to some more extended commands, but not to the extent that MS is dropping the ball, things aren't doable, etc. The whole "here's how many lines it takes to do this" thing always irks me becuase it's so subjective. There is no "what if I don't want to write ANY lines" or "what if I want to save that script" or "how about doing that across multiple servers, domains, locations, environments and OS's"...

All of these things are things I do every day as one of 2 Sysadmins in a fairly large company. Not once in my travels have I wished I had access to a commandline, becuase the tools we have work and because I don't see what problem what you're asking for solves.

Show me the problem and I'll be happy to jump onto a solution full force. I'll blog about it, I'll tell people about it and I'll likely even spec out a business case and framework.

But I won't do anything if all I hear is a "I want this because it's how I work in this other OS and MS isn't being cooperative and this is more efficient and..."

Because it doesn't get me anywhere. It doesn't move me forward. It doesn't tell me why your solution is better. It just says "here's how I want you to do it".

I know I'm being overly ... cutting, but I'm sick. My apologies, honestly. I'm not normally such a hardass.